Estimados Colisteros,
On this day in 1587, Virginia Day became the first child of English parents to be born on American soil in what is now Roanoke Island in the State of North Carolina.
Is it known when the first descendant of Spanish parents was born in what is now Mexico? ... and who that child was?
Saludos,
Efrain Conrique
San Diego, California
First criollo in the Americas in Hispaniola probably in 1490s
One step closer to the answer to this question... there is documentation showing that Spanish women crossed the Atlantic to Hispaniola (Santo Domingo) as early as 1497, perhaps as early as 1494:
El propio Cristóbal Colón, en la Carta de Relación del segundo viaje, dice que entregó un niño indígena «a una muger que de Castilla acá benía» (Antonio Rumeu de Armas, Manuscrito del Libro Copiador de Colón, Madrid, ed. del autor, 1989, p. 450.)
By 1497 there were a large number of spanish women in Hispaniola:
En un documento fechado 1497 Ávila aparecen trescientos de los más de seiscientos pasajeros que participaron en el segundo viaje colombino y, entre ellos, figuran mujeres como María de Granada y las comerciantes Catalina Vázquez y Catalina Rodríguez. (General de Simancas, Sección Contaduría Mayor de Cuentas, Primera Época, Legajo 98)
Los Reyes Católicos autorizaron al almirante a llevar trescientos hombres y treinta mujeres en su siguiente travesía (1497-98). Entre esas treinat mujeres estaban Catalina de Sevilla (mujer de Pedro de Salamanca), Gracia de Segovia (prostituta) y
Catalina y María de Egipto (dos gitanas acusadas de homicidio). (Real Cédula de 23 de abril de 1497 y Amadeo Julián, Bancos, ingenios y esclavos en la época colonial, Santo Domingo, Editora del Hogar, 1997, p. 65)
First criollo in the Americas in Hispaniola probably in 1490s
Great research, Arturo! Men being men, I was sure women were brought early on, and colorful ones at that! Thanks for the enlightenment; historical facts are usually more interesting than believing a sugar-coated fairytale. Alice B Blake
--- arturo.ramos2@gmail.com wrote:
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To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] First criollo in the Americas in Hispaniola probably in 1490s
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:09:51 -0700 (PDT)
One step closer to the answer to this question... there is documentation showing that Spanish women crossed the Atlantic to Hispaniola (Santo Domingo) as early as 1497, perhaps as early as 1494:
El propio Cristóbal Colón, en la Carta de Relación del segundo viaje, dice que entregó un niño indígena «a una muger que de Castilla acá benía» (Antonio Rumeu de Armas, Manuscrito del Libro Copiador de Colón, Madrid, ed. del autor, 1989, p. 450.)
By 1497 there were a large number of spanish women in Hispaniola:
En un documento fechado 1497 Ávila aparecen trescientos de los más de seiscientos pasajeros que participaron en el segundo viaje colombino y, entre ellos, figuran mujeres como María de Granada y las comerciantes Catalina Vázquez y Catalina Rodríguez. (General de Simancas, Sección Contaduría Mayor de Cuentas, Primera Época, Legajo 98)
Los Reyes Católicos autorizaron al almirante a llevar trescientos hombres y treinta mujeres en su siguiente travesía (1497-98). Entre esas treinat mujeres estaban Catalina de Sevilla (mujer de Pedro de Salamanca), Gracia de Segovia (prostituta) y
Catalina y María de Egipto (dos gitanas acusadas de homicidio). (Real Cédula de 23 de abril de 1497 y Amadeo Julián, Bancos, ingenios y esclavos en la época colonial, Santo Domingo, Editora del Hogar, 1997, p. 65)
Gonzalo Guerrero and Geronimo de Aguilar
Geronimo de Aguilar was a Franciscan friar, and while shipwrecked and captured by the Maya in the Yucatan in 1511, he did not father any children (at least not any that he would admit to since that would prove that he had broken his vows of chastity).
He was shipwrecked with Gonzalo Guerrero, who bacame a war leader for Nachan Kaan, married a rich Maya woman and fathered Mexico's first three mestizo children sometime in the 1510s.
When Cortes sent a message to ask Aguilar and Guerrero to join him in his conquest of Mexico in 1519, Aguilar went, but Guerrero told Aguilar:
"Hermano Aguilar, yo soy casado y tengo tres hijos. Tienenme por cacique y capitán, cuando hay guerras, la cara tengo labrada, y horadadas las orejas. ¿Que dirán de mi esos españoles, si me ven ir de este modo? Idos vos con la bendición de Dios, que ya veis que estos mis hijitos son bonitos, y dadme por vida vuestra de esas cuentas verdes que traeis, para darles, y diré, que mis hermanos me las envían de mi tierra."
He later led the Maya in campaigns against Cortes and his lieutenants like Pedro de Alvarado and the Panamanian governor Pedrarias. One of Alvarado's orders in his Honduras campaign was to capture Guerrero and he supposedly died in 1536 near Chetumal.
There is a statue of him and his mestizo children in Quintana Roo.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gonzalo_Guerrero
First Mexican Criollo
If my history is correct and I think 99.9 will be, but without checking my sources I have to say that there was contact with the Mayas from three sailors that were marooned of the coast of Yucatan, they procreated children becoming the first mestizos in the Americas.
(Just as soon as I can I will do some research and let every one know the names of those soldiers.) It might have been Jeronimo de Aguilar.
--- On Tue, 8/18/09, conrique1@earthlink.net wrote:
From: conrique1@earthlink.net
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] First Mexican Criollo
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 5:06 PM
Estimados Colisteros,
On this day in 1587, Virginia Day became the first child of English parents to be born on American soil in what is now Roanoke Island in the State of North Carolina.
Is it known when the first descendant of Spanish parents was born in what is now Mexico? ... and who that child was?
Saludos,
Efrain Conrique
San Diego, California
First Mexican Criollo
Wow, I did not known this, I guess Mestizos were born before the criollos, the first European born in the Americas is Luis Cortes Hermosillo. -Daniel
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First criollo in the Americas
The first child of Spanish parents born in the Americas was likely in Hispaniola (Dominican Republic), where the Spanish had permanent colonies since 1496. I am not very familiar with the microhistory of Santo Domingo from that era to figure out who exactly it might have been but I would be willing to bet a criollo was born there before a child of Hernan Cortes was born in the 1520s.
First criollo in the Americas
I don't think there were any Spanish women on the first voyages, but probably there were women on the voyages to Santo Domingo before 1500.
Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
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From: arturo.ramos2@gmail.com
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 5:33 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] First criollo in the Americas
The first child of Spanish parents born in the Americas was likely in Hispaniola (Dominican Republic), where the Spanish had permanent colonies since 1496. I am not very familiar with the microhistory of Santo Domingo from that era to figure out who exactly it might have been but I would be willing to bet a criollo was born there before a child of Hernan Cortes was born in the 1520s.
First criollo in the Americas
True, after Mexico fell, most conquistadores had wives and travled back to Spain for them and their kids. Luis was the first Spanish Mexican Criollo, not sure who was in Hispaniola
-Daniel
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First Mexican Criollo
The first Spaniard to be born in America "In the sense of all America not USA" was don Luís Cortés y Hermosillo, child of Hernán Cortés and doña Elvira de Hermosillo, relative of the Hermosillos of Los altos. Not sure how though? I was always told this, I guess we have another task on the plate.
-Daniel
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First Mexican Criollo
Según las crónicas de Bernal Díaz del Castillo, los primeros mestizos
nacidos en México fueron engendrados en la península de Yucatán por Gonzalo
Guerrero, uno de dos naufragos que sobrevivieron un fallido viaje de
exploración en 1511. Sin embargo, el primer mestizo del que se tiene
conocimiento es Martín Cortés, hijo ilegítimo de Hernán Cortés con la
Malinche. El conquistador Pedro de Alvarado también tuvo dos hijos
ilegítimos con la princesa tlascalteca Luisa de Xicotencatl (Tecuilhauatzin)
quien lo acompañó en viajes de exploración por el sur de México y Guatemala.
Pedro nació en México (no sé en que fecha) y Leonor en Guatemala. Doña
Leonor Alvarado de Xicotencatl, nacida el 22 de marzo de 1524 en Utatlán,
fue la primera mestiza en Guatemala. Casó en primeras nupcias con Pedro de
Portocarrero, brazo derecho de Alvarado, y fue inmortalizada por Pepe Milla
en su famosa novela "La hija del Adelantado".
According to Bernal Díaz del Castillo, the first mestizos born in Mexico
were concieved in the Yucatan peninsula by Gonzalo Guerrero, one of two
shipwreck survivors of a failed exploration trip in 1511. However, the
first mestizo known by name is Martín Cortés, the ilegitimate child of
Hernán Cortés and la Malinche. Pedro de Alvarado had two ilegitimate
children with the tlaxcalan princess Luisa de Xicotencatl (Tecuilhauatzin)
who accompanied him in exploration trips through Mexico and Guatemala.
Their son Pedro was born in Mexico (I don't know the date) and their
daughter Leonor in Guatemala. Doña Leonor Alvarado de Xicotencatl, born
March 22, 1522 in Utatlan, was the first mestiza in Guatemala. She first
married Pedro de Portocarrero, Alvarado's trusted captain, and was
immortalized by Pepe Milla in his famous novel "La hija del Adelantado".
BILL FIGUEROA
First Mexican Criollo
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Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 9:58 AM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] First Mexican Criollo
Según las crónicas de Bernal Díaz del Castillo, los primeros mestizos
nacidos en México fueron engendrados en la península de Yucatán por Gonzalo
Guerrero, uno de dos naufragos que sobrevivieron un fallido viaje de
exploración en 1511. Sin embargo, el primer mestizo del que se tiene
conocimiento es Martín Cortés, hijo ilegítimo de Hernán Cortés con la
Malinche. El conquistador Pedro de Alvarado también tuvo dos hijos
ilegítimos con la princesa tlascalteca Luisa de Xicotencatl (Tecuilhauatzin)
quien lo acompañó en viajes de exploración por el sur de México y Guatemala.
Pedro nació en México (no sé en que fecha) y Leonor en Guatemala. Doña
Leonor Alvarado de Xicotencatl, nacida el 22 de marzo de 1524 en Utatlán,
fue la primera mestiza en Guatemala. Casó en primeras nupcias con Pedro de
Portocarrero, brazo derecho de Alvarado, y fue inmortalizada por Pepe Milla
en su famosa novela "La hija del Adelantado".
According to Bernal Díaz del Castillo, the first mestizos born in Mexico
were concieved in the Yucatan peninsula by Gonzalo Guerrero, one of two
shipwreck survivors of a failed exploration trip in 1511. However, the
first mestizo known by name is Martín Cortés, the ilegitimate child of
Hernán Cortés and la Malinche. Pedro de Alvarado had two ilegitimate
children with the tlaxcalan princess Luisa de Xicotencatl (Tecuilhauatzin)
who accompanied him in exploration trips through Mexico and Guatemala.
Their son Pedro was born in Mexico (I don't know the date) and their
daughter Leonor in Guatemala. Doña Leonor Alvarado de Xicotencatl, born
March 22, 1522 in Utatlan, was the first mestiza in Guatemala. She first
married Pedro de Portocarrero, Alvarado's trusted captain, and was
immortalized by Pepe Milla in his famous novel "La hija del Adelantado".
BILL FIGUEROA
First Mexican Criollo
Please excuse the typographical error in my submittal . . .
The correct name of the child was Virginia Dare.
She is reported as having been born on August 18, 1587, in Cheseapeke Bay, Roanoke Island, Dare, North Carolina. Her parents were Ananias Dare and Ellinor (or Elyonor)White.
Efrain Conrique
San Diego, California