Alice....in the book, "Familias Antiguas de Tlaltenango, by

Arturo Ramos, there numerous entries on the family names
you are researching.

I strongly recommend the purchase of this book for concise

detailed history of your family. This book is worth its weight
in Gold. Available at lulu press, on line at lulu.com

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From: alice wissing
To: "research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org"
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 11:32 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Help With Ortiz de San Pedro of Tlaltenango

I just found an entry while searching the early Durango records for a Lazaro Ortiz de San Pedro marrying a Maria de Chaide and Lazaro identifies his parents as Lazaro Ortiz de San Pedro and Maria Esquivel of Zacatecas.

Image 192/352, Defunciones 1622-1634, El Sagrario, Victoria de Durango, dated February 11, 1627: Vele a Lazaro de San Pedro hijo legitimo de Lazaro Ortiz de San Pedro y Maria de Esquivel veciana de Zacatecas aviendo precidido los amonestraciones y lo demos necessario? fueron los padrinos Isabel de Garete y Francisco de Avendano digo y lo vele con Maria de Chaide hija legitima de Juan de Chaide y de Francisca de Valle vecinos de esta ciudad.

I am hoping somebody out there familiar with the early Tlaltenango records can help me learn more about Lazaro Ortiz de San Pedro or Maria Esquivel. I'm guessing this would place the birth of Lazaro (the elder one) at around 1570-80. I saw some postings from several years ago and it appeared Arturo Ramos was very knowledgeable about the early families. Also, has anybody figured out why Ortiz has "de San Pedro" attached? Was there a place known as San Pedro in Spain?

Thank you.

Sanchez-Castellanos

Alice, in 1638-02-21 Lazaro Ortiz de San Pedro , Spaniard widower with Ana de La Paz, widow, residents of this town(Tlaltenango)

1629-05-17 Pedro Ortiz, resident of the town of Jerez with Ynes de Saucedo, maiden.

1647-12-21 Nicolas Carrillo, unmarried Spaniard, criollo of the town of Chalchihuites and resident of this juridiction as of six months prior, with Antonia Ortiz de Miramontes, resident maiden of this juridiction. Sponsors: Juan Martin Tello de Orozco and Doña Lorenza Ortiz de Haro his wife. Wittnesses: Felipe Diaz de Santiago, Pedro Ortiz de San Pedro (in the veiling ceremony of january 7th, 1648 appears Maria esquivel, mother of the bride and Sebastian , Indian mayor of said town....

I think there are two differents Ortiz one Spaniards and the other could be meztizo.