Hello Gaby,

I have Bernabe de Guizar as the son of Domingo de Guizar and Isabel de Silva y Bedoya. Magdalena de Valencia I have down as the daughter of Juan de Valencia Pina and Lucia de Torres Guerrero y Oceguera

Here's Bernabe's bautizmo:

May 24, 1691(Zamora, Michoacan)

Here's Domingo and Isabel's marriage:

February 28, 1688(Zamora, Michoacan)

I have a matrimonial dispensation available for one of their kids:

Matrimonial Dispensation for Juan de Guizar Valencia and Maria Teresa Maldonado Orozco - February 16, 1757 (Cotija, Michoacan)

In my records, I have that Bernabe and Magdalena had, at least, the following children:

Juan de Guizar Valencia who married Maria Teresa Maldonado
Bernabe de Guizar Valencia who married Maria Josefa de Torres
Tiburcio de Guizar Valencia who married Maria Gertrudis Ruiz and later Josefa del Toro

I've seen in the archives of Morelia, Michoacan that the Guizars of Michoacan seem to have originated in Puruandiro, Michoacan. The oldest references I've seen of the Guizars is that of Domingo de Guizar Guerrero who married Agustina de Orozco Tovar. I suspect that Bernabe's father, Domingo de Guizar who married Isabel de Silva y Bedoya came from this Guizar Guerrero family.

Hope this helps,

Daniel Serna Valencia

I don't...although, my Guizar family line has been very difficult to track. My Great Grandmother was Luciana Navarro Guizar and her parents were Pascual Navarro and Martina Guizar, they were from Zapopan Jalisco, my Great Grandfather Higinio Saldivar Macias and his family were all mostly from Nochistlan...although, my Great Grandparents had their children in Tamazula De Gordiano...think there may be a connection with your Guizar family and mine? I do also has Valencia DNA matches on 23andMe.