Hi Alex,

It’s funny that you ask that, because now that I look at what I have, while there are several dispensas that establish Ana Sanchez de Mendoza as the daughter of Toribio Hernandez de Arellano and Isabel de Mendoza, none of them explicitly state that she was married to Juan Becerra, only that she was the mother of Juan Becerra, who was married to Catalina Galindo. I guess it’s just naturally assumed that Juan Becerra was her husband. Maybe someone else has it sourced?
I’ve seen his name appearing in records:
On 21 Feb 1569, he was present during a cabildo (council meeting), and he was given the title “regidor.”
On 30 Aug 1590, he was present at the parish church door, when a towncryer announced that Juan Garcia de Santa Ana was to be granted some land (left image, second paragraph); Toribio Hernandez was present during one of the announcements, and gives a statement that appears in the right image, bottom. You’ll see names of other early residents on the same page.
I seem to remember seeing Juan Becerra’s name appear during the trial against parish priest, Padre Alonso Lopez de Espinar, in 1590-1592; I think, again, it was to say that he was present when something was taking place, but the writing was illegible.

Saludos,
Manny Díez Hermosillo

This is great information! Thank you all. At the same time, I am now very confused. I think I have a better understanding of the connection between the families in Jalisco and the families in Puebla. The testament helps support that. Now the big question is (ok I have several)... who are the parents of Mariana de Mendoza? I see on wikitree that she is shown as the daughter of Toribo Hernandez and Isabel de Mendoza, but I'm not sold on that connection with out something substantial to back it up. I say that because I understand the "Diccionario genealógico de las familias alteñas" (Gutiérrez-Hurtado de Mendoza) names the children of Toribio and Isabel as Ana Sanchez de Mendoza, Gabriel Sanchez, Juana Bautista, Ysabel de Mendoza, and Marta Sanchez de Mendoza. However, it fails to name a daughter named Mariana or Maria. Again, that's my understanding, but I could be wrong.

The following text is also found within the publication Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia: v. 1. Diccionario genealógico de las familias alteñas (Gutiérrez-Hurtado de Mendoza) by Mariano González-Leal:

"El Capitán Francisco II Gutiérrez Rubio, el Mozo, -segundo de su nombre-, fue hijo -el quinto, según se desprende de la edad con que se le refiere en diversas actuaciones- del Capitán Francisco I Gutiérrez-Rubio, el Viejo, y de doña Anna González-Florida. Debió nacer, como atrás se señala, por 1595. Hacia 1618 casó con doña Francisca Hurtado de Mendoza, nacida en jurisdicción de Jalostotitlán por 1599 hija de Rodrigo de Olivares y de doña María Hurtado de Mendoza..."

If this is true, then Catalina has to be their daughter as well. On December 28, 1692, Joseph Jimenez (Oliveras) and Josefa de Padilla Avila (Gutierrez) petitioned the Catholic Diocese for dispensation. Testimony provided during the inquiry confirms that Joseph is the grandson of Catalina de Mendoza and Josefa is the granddaughter of Francisca de Mendoza.

The dispensa can be seen here: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-X4J1-J?i=223&wc=3J48-M…

So, the other big question I have... Are Francisca and Catalina the daughters of Rodrigo? I ask because Rikki said they were Cristobal's daughters. I did not see any mention of either woman in Rodrigo's testament.

One last question I'd like to toss out there. I know Jaime Holcombe often referred to Toribio Hernandez as Toribio Hernandez de Arellano. But I have yet to see a single document for him or his children that refers to him as anything other than Toribio Hernandez. Can anyone point to a document on FamilySearch that shows he used Arellano as part of his surname?

As always, the information sharing has been very insightful.

Raul

Cristobal de Olivares cc Mariana de Mendoza and Rodrigo de Olivares cc Maria de Mendoza are 2 different couples. Here’s Rodrigo de Olivares’ testamento, dated 12 Oct 1633 in San Luis Potosi. He was born in Puebla de los Angeles, Puebla, son of Juan de Olivares cc Francisca Rodriguez. His wife, Maria de Mendoza, was the daughter of Cristobal de Olivares and Mariana de Mendoza, of Lagos. They had been married for about 30 years when he submitted his will. This is explained on img422.
Catalina Hurtado de Mendoza and Francisca Hurtado de Mendoza were also daughters of Cristobal de Olivares cc Mariana de Mendoza.

Manny Díez Hermosillo