Hi Ronald,
I do have the Collection of books of Retoños De España... and I will be more than happy to check for you, but I am currently away from home and won't be back for more than a week. If no one else helps you by then and you don't mind waiting for me I will send you the info. then.

Silvia I Sandoval

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> Hola Members , I have looking for Tomas Gonzalez de Hermosillo who married Nicolasa Marquez (daughter of Diego Marquez de Los Olivos and Maria de La Cruz Martin del Campo)
> A member of another website states that Tomas Gonzalez de Hermosillo was also named Gonzalez-Rubio son of Diego Gonzalez-Rubio and Catarina Aceves. He states his source (which I do not own ,I can't verify) Retonos de Espana en la Nueva Galicia-TOMO IV vol. 1 page 18 that TOMAS was brother to a Diego Gonzalez-Rubio el Mozo and the Parents were Diego Gonzalez-Rubio and Catarina Aceves . I was wondering if any one had the book and could verify ths info.
> Thank you for time
> Ronnie
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 14:16:06 -0700 (PDT)
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> Ah, the "Campos - Martin Del Campo" helps clear things up. I didn't even
> think of that, though I have seen Campos on one later descendant. It looked
> like Filomena Guzman was from Encarnacion de Diaz, and I was able to located
> the record for her marriage to Calletano Franco, along with baptism records
> for their children. I will go through some of the additional records you
> provided as well. Thank you so much! Nancy
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Comment

Hola, Silvia. Espero que se encuentre muy bien.

Vi que en este hilo ofreció amablemente consultar su colección Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia, de Mariano González-Leal. Si todavía tiene acceso al libro, ¿podría ayudarnos con fotografías legibles de las páginas del apartado «Torre-Ledesma y Palafox, de la» que traten a Clemente de la Torre/Ledesma y a su esposa Beatriz Ramírez o de Tavera, incluyendo las notas y referencias documentales de esas páginas?

En las ediciones de 2011/2021, el apartado se encuentra en el tomo VII, dentro del volumen Ramírez de Olivas–Zubieta; en ediciones anteriores la distribución puede ser distinta. Buscamos lo que diga sobre la ascendencia de Clemente y si menciona a Juan de Ledesma Mexía e Isabel/Ysabel González. Ese posible parentesco sigue sin comprobar y en investigación.

También agradeceríamos una fotografía del encabezado o entrada del índice y de los datos de la edición, con los números impresos de las páginas visibles, para poder citar correctamente. Si no conserva ese tomo, cualquier orientación sobre quién lo tenga nos sería muy útil.

Muchas gracias por su tiempo y por la ayuda que pueda brindarnos.
Alfonso de la Torre Robledo

Comment

Thank you
Ronnie

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> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 20:04:09 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Research Digest, Vol 110, Issue 11
>
> Hi Ronald,
> I do have the Collection of books of Retoños De España... and I will be more than happy to check for you, but I am currently away from home and won't be back for more than a week. If no one else helps you by then and you don't mind waiting for me I will send you the info. then.
>
>
>
>
> Silvia I Sandoval
>
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> > Hola Members , I have looking for Tomas Gonzalez de Hermosillo who married Nicolasa Marquez (daughter of Diego Marquez de Los Olivos and Maria de La Cruz Martin del Campo)
> > A member of another website states that Tomas Gonzalez de Hermosillo was also named Gonzalez-Rubio son of Diego Gonzalez-Rubio and Catarina Aceves. He states his source (which I do not own ,I can't verify) Retonos de Espana en la Nueva Galicia-TOMO IV vol. 1 page 18 that TOMAS was brother to a Diego Gonzalez-Rubio el Mozo and the Parents were Diego Gonzalez-Rubio and Catarina Aceves . I was wondering if any one had the book and could verify ths info.
> > Thank you for time
> > Ronnie
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 14:16:06 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: becerracuse@verizon.net
> > To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
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> > Ah, the "Campos - Martin Del Campo" helps clear things up. I didn't even
> > think of that, though I have seen Campos on one later descendant. It looked
> > like Filomena Guzman was from Encarnacion de Diaz, and I was able to located
> > the record for her marriage to Calletano Franco, along with baptism records
> > for their children. I will go through some of the additional records you
> > provided as well. Thank you so much! Nancy
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Comment

I also have the collection and I have already verified that the information
exists as it was given to Ronnie but in Tomo VI vol. 1 page 18 which is the
section on the Márquez family. It also exists in Tomo IV vol. 2 page 511 in
the section on the González Rubio family. I had replied at
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/es/node/22836

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 1:19 AM, Ronald Reynoso wrote:

> Thank you
> Ronnie
>
> > From: shivism@msn.com
> > To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 20:04:09 -0700
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Research Digest, Vol 110, Issue 11
> >
> > Hi Ronald,
> > I do have the Collection of books of Retoños De España... and I will be
> more than happy to check for you, but I am currently away from home and
> won't be back for more than a week. If no one else helps you by then and
> you don't mind waiting for me I will send you the info. then.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Silvia I Sandoval
> >
> > > From: research-request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> > > Subject: Research Digest, Vol 110, Issue 11
> > > To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> > > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 15:10:10 -0700
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> > > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 13:33:40 -0700
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> > > Hola Members , I have looking for Tomas Gonzalez de Hermosillo who
> married Nicolasa Marquez (daughter of Diego Marquez de Los Olivos and Maria
> de La Cruz Martin del Campo)
> > > A member of another website states that Tomas Gonzalez de Hermosillo
> was also named Gonzalez-Rubio son of Diego Gonzalez-Rubio and Catarina
> Aceves. He states his source (which I do not own ,I can't verify) Retonos
> de Espana en la Nueva Galicia-TOMO IV vol. 1 page 18 that TOMAS was brother
> to a Diego Gonzalez-Rubio el Mozo and the Parents were Diego Gonzalez-Rubio
> and Catarina Aceves . I was wondering if any one had the book and could
> verify ths info.
> > > Thank you for time
> > > Ronnie
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 14:16:06 -0700 (PDT)
> > > From: becerracuse@verizon.net
> > > To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Calletano Franco
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> > >
> > > Ah, the "Campos - Martin Del Campo" helps clear things up. I didn't
> even
> > > think of that, though I have seen Campos on one later descendant. It
> looked
> > > like Filomena Guzman was from Encarnacion de Diaz, and I was able to
> located
> > > the record for her marriage to Calletano Franco, along with baptism
> records
> > > for their children. I will go through some of the additional records
> you
> > > provided as well. Thank you so much! Nancy
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Hola, Armando. Espero que se encuentre muy bien.

Vi que en este hilo comentó que tiene la colección Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia, de Mariano González-Leal, y que ha ayudado a verificar sus referencias. Si todavía tiene acceso al libro, ¿podría ayudarnos con fotografías legibles de las páginas del apartado «Torre-Ledesma y Palafox, de la» que traten a Clemente de la Torre/Ledesma y a su esposa Beatriz Ramírez o de Tavera, incluyendo las notas y referencias documentales de esas páginas?

En las ediciones de 2011/2021, el apartado se encuentra en el tomo VII, dentro del volumen Ramírez de Olivas–Zubieta; en ediciones anteriores la distribución puede ser distinta. Buscamos lo que diga sobre la ascendencia de Clemente y si menciona a Juan de Ledesma Mexía e Isabel/Ysabel González. Ese posible parentesco sigue sin comprobar y en investigación.

También agradeceríamos una fotografía del encabezado o entrada del índice y de los datos de la edición, con los números impresos de las páginas visibles, para poder citar correctamente. Si no conserva ese tomo, cualquier orientación sobre quién lo tenga nos sería muy útil.

Muchas gracias por su tiempo y por la ayuda que pueda brindarnos.
Alfonso de la Torre Robledo