Esther, Sorry, but the only data I have is for Agustina Santelice's parents' marriage in Panuco 1882. Unfortunately, I don't have any info on Agustina's marriage to Luis Onate. That's the problem, Esther. I have no dates or firm locations of births, etc. I did find Luis Onate's brother Adolfo's WWI Draft registration that states his birth as Sept 27, 1896 in Villa Garcia, Zac. I will order Vault Film 1089262 that contains nacimientos of that date. I know their father's name: Rosalio Onate, but not my ggrandmother's name at all. Hopefully, I'll find Luis and Adolfo's parents and grandparents' names on the film. Wish me luck and thanks so much for your interest. I need all the help I can get. Alice B. Blake

--- eaherold@att.net wrote:

From: eaherold@att.net
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Los O�ate de Alice
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 04:58:43 +0000

Alice,

I will call you cousin for I have Onate ancestry also. My Onate heritage dates back to the colonization of Zacatecas and Oaxaca of New Mexico.

You found the marriage of Agustina Santelices and Luis Onate. That is a good begining. I am willing to help you research the Onates. So far I have been lucky in my own research. I am kind of curious if you go back to Juan or Cristobal Onate as I do. I will need the date of Agustina and Luis' marriage and the place and the church. I also need to know where and when the other children of the marriage were born. Did you read the documents in their entriety?

Let me know what you think.
--
Esther A. Herold

-------------- Original message from Leticia Leon : --------------

> thanks for your answer.
>
> I�ll be asking to my father, over and over until I squeez his brain as I am
> used to do. He�ll be 84 on oct, some times I brake adobe walls with this
> technique! He could remember something, I almost hear the whispering spirits
> around, if I were a dog my ears would be pointing up. If any news, be sure I�ll
> tell.
>
>
> AliceBB escribi�:
> Hi Leticia, My mother's maiden name was Enedina Onate; she grew up believing
> she was born in Aguascalientes, Aguas. May 14, 1915. Her parents were Luis Onate
> and Agustina Santelices, who separated, and therein lies the rub. My mother was
> estranged from the Onates all her life and when she sought them out about 40
> years ago, she found an aunt Leonarda Onate in Aguas.,Aguas. who in turn took us
> to meet an uncle Adolfo Onate in Guadalajara, Jalisco. They told us of another
> sister Maria Onate in the US. who married a first cousin Eduardo Onate! I was
> with Mom on this trip, and Tia Leonarda took us to a church where her father/my
> ggrandfather Rosalio de Onate was a benefactor, and is entombed. Unfortunately,
> I was about 12 at the time, and while I remember the white marble tomb, I wasn't
> much interested. It was on that trip that Tia Leonarda and Uncle Adolfo informed
> my mother that she was actually born in Villa Garcia, Zac. GGrandfather Rosalio
> and ggrandmother Petra
> Candelas/or Candelario supposedly had a tobacco hacienda that was lost in the
> revolution. After all that effort, my mother never kept up correspondence with
> the Onate's. To date, the only family info I have been able to verify through
> FHC records, is the marriage of my grandmother Agustina Santelices' parents:
> ggrandmother Maria Valderramas to ggrandfather Francisco Santelices in
> Panuco,Zac. on April 20. 1882, although it states they were from Vetagrande,
> Zac. That entry states no children, when they actually had two daugthers. And
> that's about it. My Onates are NOWHERE to be found and that FHC entry is the
> only mention of a Santelices. It's been a brick wall ever since! There are lots
> of Valderramas and Candelas, but until I find a link, I don't know which ones to
> follow. Thanks so much, Alice B. Blake
>
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