Mira Karr, mis ancestros del rancho de Calderón eran Gutiérrez y González, pero no he podido seguirles la línea. Además no se si eran dueños, casi no se nada de ellos. Al poco tiempo un hijo de estos ancestros se fueron a vivir otro rancho llamado La Mina.

Saludos.
Jorge Luis Ramírez Gómez.

(*< jOrGe >*)> From: karrwolfe@comcast.net> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 15:20:38 -0600> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Rancho Calderon> > ¡Holá Jorge Luis!> > > > Me dicen mis primos que la hacienda del Rancho Calderón ya se encuentra al> fondo de un lago artificial formado por la nueva Presa Calderón a través del> Riachuelo Calderón. Acabo de leer la historia de la batalla famosa del> Puente de Calderón, pero no sabía que dicha puente se encontraba en el> rancho de mis tíos. ¡Muy interesante! Me imagino que la hubiera conocido> durante mis visitas con la familia Padilla, pero ya no lo recuerdo.> > > > ¿Tus ancestros en el rancho fueron Romos? ¿O Padillas? ¿O dueños> anteriores?> > > > Karr Wolfe Romo> > > > -----Original Message-----> From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Jorge Luis> Ramírez Gómez> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 8:29 AM> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Rancho Calderon> > > > > > Hola Arturo Ramos, yo también tengo ancestros en el rancho de Calderón. El> rancho se encuentra entre Zapotlanejo y Tepatitlán, Jalisco. No se si has> escuchado en la historia de la Independencia de México se dice de la batalla> del puente de Calderón, pues en ese rancho fue la batalla, todavía se> encuentra el puente donde se libró dicha batalla.> > > > Saludos.(*< jOrGe >*)> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> From:> arturo.ramos2@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 03:49:38 -0800> Subject:> [Nuestros Ranchos] Rancho Calderon> > > John:> > Rancho Calderon is listed> in the Diccionario Geografico Historio y Bibliografico de Mexico. You can> find the link in under the Geography section in the LINKS section of the> site. It is listed under "Calderon." Unfortunately, it has very little> information, simply stating at it is an hacienda in the municipality of> Zapotlanejo in the first Canton (Guadalajara) of the state of Jalisco. The> dictionary was published in 1870-1874.> > There is an atlas published by the> same man around the same time in which you might be able to find the rancho.> You can find that atlas at the David Rumsey collection which is also in the> links section under "Digital Map Collections" in the Geography Section.> --> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing> List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To> change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org&gt; > _________________________________________________________________> > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE!> > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/&gt; > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > > > To post, send email to:> > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > > > To change your subscription, log on to:> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org&gt; > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
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-----Original Message-----
From: sandragomezmendoza@yahoo.com

Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 20:43:56
To:research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Rancho Calderon, Jalisco

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-----Original Message-----
From: "Karr"

Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 14:38:59
To:
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Rancho Calderon, Jalisco

Thank you so much for the hints! It is very helpful to know that the Rancho
Calderón existed in the 1870's. I think I have roughly located the original
site of the hacienda--now at the bottom of the artificial lake formed by the
Presa Calderón just outside of Zatpotlanejo. Maybe I can scrape up a
long-lost Mexican relative and start tracing the ownership of the hacienda.
Most of my Mexican relatives came from that region—Encarnación, Ocotlán
(where my mother and her grandfather were born), Tepatitlán (where her
father was born), and Guadalajara.

I found the atlas you mentioned. Interesting! The older maps had
Tepatitlán southeast of Zapotlanejo, and it is actually northeast. Also,
the whole area, including the new lake and the city of Zabpotlanejo, is now
in the “Region of Acatic.” I’m beginning to get the hang of this
overlapping of regions, and the changing boundaries, but it makes things
pretty confusing.

I did some interesting reading about the famous battle at the Bridge over
the Río Calderón, where the Royalists routed Hidalgo’s army in 1810 and
delayed Mexican independence for 10 more years. It took place not far from
my family’s hacienda.

Thanks again for the help.

Karr Wolfe

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Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 5:50 AM
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Rancho Calderon

John:

Rancho Calderon is listed in the Diccionario Geografico Historio y
Bibliografico de Mexico. You can find the link in under the Geography
section in the LINKS section of the site. It is listed under "Calderon."
Unfortunately, it has very little information, simply stating at it is an
hacienda in the municipality of Zapotlanejo in the first Canton
(Guadalajara) of the state of Jalisco. The dictionary was published in
1870-1874.

There is an atlas published by the same man around the same time in which
you might be able to find the rancho. You can find that atlas at the David
Rumsey collection which is also in the links section under "Digital Map
Collections" in the Geography Section.