FamilySearch (Genealogical Society of Utah) microfilmed the 1930 Mexico Natl. Census in the Mexico Natl. Archives back in the 1960s. They filmed everything that the archives had, which unfortunately wasn't everything. As for Aguascalientes the municipios: Aguascalientes, Calvillo, and Jesus Maria were 'lost' at the time of the microfilming. FamilySearch has not gone back to the Natl. archives to determine if the 'lost' municipios were ever found. You may want to inquire with them to see.

-Lynn Turner
FamilySearch

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Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 18:00:04 -0800
From: Daniel Mendez
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Hi Sof?a! I can help a bit on this subject. I've been told that priest had only started to list grandparents on baptisms ca. 1812. But not full affect until 1827 or so. It doesnt mean they were the first in M?xico. The huge migration to M?xico was in the 1500's. When Hern?n Cort?s conquered M?xico. After 1821 the independence very few left ffrom Spain, since M?xico was economically unstable.

TO view passenger list or atleast the info you can go to
http://pares.mcu.es

You can also order the microfilm for passanger lists. Usually its the same info as in the record on PARES. It's a wealth on info. I recently found out my mother's side of the family had a COat of Arms. Not those phonny ones you can buy on the interent, but an actually one given to us by King Charles V.And is there somewhere where I can search passenger lists of ships that arrived in Mexico? How to make the connection to Mexico and the country that they were originally from, Spain? There is a speculation that says all SPaniards are related because at least one line on every SPanish tree descends from D. Alfonso I, King of Asturias.
About the surnames. Mart?nez, Ram?nez, Ram?rez, Ru?z and G?mez, Mu??z are all patron?micos. Derived from the son of....like Mart?nez means the son of Mart?n. They usually changed every generation. but for some reason in ca. 1450 They ceased on creating new ones. So if Jos? Fern?ndez de Portugal. lets say. His ancestor who ignited his line of FErnandezes would have been Fernando de Portugal born ca. 1450. THey USUALLY go back to royalty based on my experience. one of my lines goes back to Fernando II "El Cat?lico.

Note * not all -ez surnames are patron?micos.

Losano, Acosta, Agu?lar, Peratra, Medina, Mac?as, Ar?iza, Pacheco are all places, like cities.
Usually it was DE Losano or DE Medina.

Esparza came from Ru?z de Esparza, which is a huge family! Especially many rancho members including my self are related. Esparza is also a city in Pamplona, Spain, the Village of Esparza.

Davila was from De Avila. I guess it would have been d'Avila. Also a city in Castilla.

Z??iga is also a city in Galicia, SPain.

V?ldez is a city.

Not sure about Angel?
Maybe its connects to the church. Like Santa ANa.

De ANDA, is the another huge one. It is a apellido Alte?a in Jalisco. It came origianlly in 1545 from Castilla. The original surname was Anda de Altamirano.

-Hope this helps!
-Daniel M?ndez del Camino
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Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 21:11:16 -0800
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Hi Daniel, Were you able to locate and access the capital city of Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes through the website you sent for 1930 Mexico census? The folks at my FHC couldn't locate through that site. It sure would help if I knew that someone could locate and access it. Thanks, Alice BB

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