Efraín, Do you mind sharing the records about Isabel Velasco? I really want to get lineage down, so far no luck. I found a Isabel Velasco but this couldnt be her. Maybe a different one. -Daniel
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Hola Efrain ,I use familytree maker. I am basically a computer illiterate. I really just wing it,for example the PAF from Family Search org ,I don't know what it is or how to use it. I always have to ask someone in my family or friends how to work or the understandings of the computer. Here is a good example of my frustration,I tried myself and also the help of wife to put in the Adobe program so I could read some my e-mail.I couldn't nor could my wife, so now I have to find some one who could help me. I keep on saying I'm going to take a computer class and havenot done it yet. As for Sebastian Ramirez de Mendoza ,he is also my ancestor.
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Tu Primo 1000 veces
Ronnie pariente acasi todos de Los Altos> From: conrique1@earthlink.net> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:02:38 -0800> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Reynoso/Conrique mutual linkages with Hurtado de Mendoza lines, and others ...> > Ronnie,> > My research notes confirm the 6 marriage entries in your message, today.> > Also, as you stated, the convoluted relationships that resulted from the> marriages of siblings in one family marrying siblings in another family and> then, descendants of those marriages (third-, second- and sometimes> first-cousins) inter-marrying again (which commonly happened among the> founding Spanish families in Los Altos) can be sometimes difficult to> define. I can keep them starlight using a couple of comprehensive> genealogy software programs that do it for me. I use Legacy Family Tree> from Millennia, in conjunction with PAF from Family Search.org> > What software program(s) do you use?> > As to my linkages to Toribio Herna
ndez the Arellano (and the Hurtado de> Mendoza line): > They derive primarily (with some multiplicities here and elsewhere as noted> above) from Sebastian Ramirez de Mendoza (born about 1608) marrying Maria> Hermosillo about 1633, in Jalostotitlan.> > Sebastian was the son of Isabel Hurtado de Mendoza and Gonzalo Ramirez de> Arellano, who married about 1607 in Jalostotitlan.> > Isabel was the daughter of Rodrigo de Olivares and Maria Hurtado de> Mendoza. They married about 1588 in Lagos de Moreno.> > Maria was the daughter of Toribio Hernandez de Arellano and Isabel Hurtado> de Mendoza (shown repeatedly on the records as Isabel Velasco).> > Isabel and Toribio also had 2 other daughters: > Isabel Hurtado de Mendoza, who married Alvaro Ornelas in Lagos de Moreno on> October 29, 1586; - - - and Marta de Mendoza, who married Juan Sanchez de> Lara on January 6, 1587.> > Sebastian (above) was the Great Grandfather of Dona Maria Juana Inez> Maldonado Lozano (born 2 March 1727 in Sa
n Juan de los Lagos) who married> Don Francisco Conrique, my 6G Grandfather.> > So, as you say, somos primos, ....and I look forward to hearing from you> again !> > Efrain Conrique> San Diego, California> > > > > > [Original Message]> > From: Ronald Reynoso > > To: > > Date: 2/17/2008 1:26:08 PM> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Somos Primos> >> >> > Hola Efrain,Its kind of hard to tell how I tie in with Isabel Hurtado de> Mendoza and Toribio Hernandez de Arellano. I can give you a round about> number, its a mess .> > Isabel and Toribio 2 daughters---> > 1)Maria hurtado de Mendoza Married to Rodrigo Olivares > > 4 daughters -> > a)Isabel Olivares la Menor married to Juan Jimenez> > 2 of this couple children are my ancestors > > > > b) Isabel Hurtado de Mendoza married to Luis Padilla Davila> > 1 child of this couple are my ancestor> > > > c) Catalina de Mendoza married to Manuel Gomez> > 2 of this couple are my ancestors> > >
> d) Francisca Hurtado de Mendoza married to Francisco Gutierrez Rubio> > 2 of this couple are my ancestors plus through their children> > > > 2) Isabel Sanchez de Mendoza married to Alvaro Ornelas> > 1 child of this couple os my ancestor > > > > Efrain ,I'm not counting because I get confused ,I also have more> ancestor hook up via through the children of the people have> mentioned.This is just fraction of the confusion or mess I have in my> backround .There is so much intermarriage in my backround its mind> boggling,so when I sign off saying ---Ronnie Reynoso pariente acasi todos> de Los Altos de Jalisco ---I pretty close .> > I probably related to almost every major Founder of all of the towns in> Los Altos . I would venture to say I'm probably related to almost every> body in Nuestros Ranchos that have ancestors in the Los Altos area. To me> this is kind of freaky/wierd but if it didn't happen this way I would not> have been born ,so I guess I really can't complain for t
he actions of my> ancestors. > > I await your reply > > Ronnie Reynoso pariente acsi todos de Los Altos> > SOMOS PRIMOS> > > > > From: conrique1@earthlink.net> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Date:> Sat, 16 Feb 2008 19:27:40 -0800> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Somos> Primos> > Ronald,> > I am familiar with Inclan's research and it is well> respected.> > Also, and independent of Inclan's research, I can confirm> through my own> research in my family tree, that Isabel Hurtado de Mendoza> (aka Isabel> Velasco de Mendoza and wife of Toribio Hernandez de Arellano)> was the> daughter of Ana Maria de Cardenas Francisco Hurtado de Mendoza,> Marquez de> Almazan... ... and on and on for many generations.> > Where do> you tie in with this line?> > Efrain Conrique> San Diego, California> > > >> [Original Message]> > From: Ronald Reynoso > > To:> research@nuestrosranchos.org > > Date:> 2/16/2008 12:08:48 PM> > Subject: [Nuestros Rancho
s] Somos Primos> >> >> >> Hola a todos de Nuestros Ranchos. I was browsing at www.somosprimos.com>> went to the search block and put- padilla> > davila. I then scrolled to > Descendents of Lord Pedro Gonzalez de> Mendoza,compiled by John D Inclan. I> appears according to what I read that> I and many if not all of us are> related to all of the people of Mexico> ,Texas,and New Mexico. John Inclans> research touches much of Jalisco> ,Zacatecas ,Aguascalientes ,All the north> eastern states of Mexico> ,Texas,and New Mexico. I was was tripping. If any> one has an e-mail to> John D Inclan I would like to ask him if any of the> Hurtado de Mendoza are> tha same as an in example of Isabel Hurtado de> Mendoza wife of Toribio> Hernandez de Arellano. I was wondering also what> you members opinion of> John Inclan research .> > Ronnie Reynoso > > pariente acasi todos de Los> Altos de Jalisco> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > > Nuestros> Ranchos Research Mailing List> >> > To pos
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