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Hello, I've just joined this group and am looking forward to interacting and exchanging information with all of you. I am researching Ruiz, Zavala, Castellanos, Dias, Mendes, Rodrigues and Quevedo. Currently I
am researching the Castellanos and Zavala families that lived near or in La Barca. I've been fortunate to find some records of baptism for Porfirio Castellano Zavala (Sep 17 1875) my GG Grandfather. The records indicate that the baptism took place in San Juan Bosco so this suggests that they lived near that local parish. What is curious to me is the criss-crossing of surnames. For example, Porfirio Castellanos Zavala was married to Guadalupe Castellanos (born October 7th 1875 in La Barca). However, Porfirio's mother Refugia (born about 1860) was also a Castellanos! Unfortunately, I cannot find much more information about Refugia's family.
Guadalupe's parents were Guillermo Castellnos (born about 1849) and Rita Mendes (born about 1850). I was very fortunate to find a record of baptism for one of their other children Cenobio Castellanos (1 Nov 1865, La Barca) that includes both sets of grandparents. From my experience, this was a great find. I'm glad to have names, but have little else. This also suggests that these sets of grandparents were present in the region. Is this a correct assumption, that the records of baptism include people who were physically present? In any case, the grand parents (my GGGG grand parents) were Jose Antonio Castellanos / Dorotea Dias (Guillermo's parents) and Eduwiges Mendes / Dolores Rodrigues (Rita's parents). I'm making the guess that they were born around the 1830's. Incidentally, Eduwiges (Edubigen) and other variants are very, very strange to me. In the original baptismal record it is next to impossible to read. A transcriber on family search labs rendered in Eduwiges. Does anyone have any history behind such a name? Needless to say researching my family history in Mexico is quite the learning experience!
Regards,
Rudy
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Introduction / Research Questions
Just wanted to list the URL for my research resources:
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/17222
Does anyone have any insight into why many entries in baptism records
contain the 'Ma.' prefix? Is it an abbreviation of Maria?
and
I was browsing the transcription of film 668255 and found something I found
troubling/interesting. I was searching for Jose Antonio Castellanos and
Dorotea Dias where they appear together as mother and father. I found one
entry that appears to be a positive match. Below that match are five others
with the same Dorotea Dias and variations of a Castellano as the father
(Jose Cirilo, Jose). They are all in the same location/church. Which is more
likely a) they are the same person withs transcription errors or b) they are
different individuals altogther? Here is the link to the data:
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#fatherSurna…
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 11:03 AM, roodee wrote:
>
> Hello, I've just joined this group and am looking forward to interacting
> and exchanging information with all of you. I am researching Ruiz, Zavala,
> Castellanos, Dias, Mendes, Rodrigues and Quevedo. Currently I
> am researching the Castellanos and Zavala families that lived near or in La
> Barca. I've been fortunate to find some records of baptism for Porfirio
> Castellano Zavala (Sep 17 1875) my GG Grandfather. The records indicate
> that the baptism took place in San Juan Bosco so this suggests that they
> lived near that local parish. What is curious to me is the criss-crossing of
> surnames. For example, Porfirio Castellanos Zavala was married to Guadalupe
> Castellanos (born October 7th 1875 in La Barca). However, Porfirio's mother
> Refugia (born about 1860) was also a Castellanos! Unfortunately, I cannot
> find much more information about Refugia's family.
> Guadalupe's parents were Guillermo Castellnos (born about 1849) and Rita
> Mendes (born about 1850). I was very fortunate to find a record of baptism
> for one of their other children Cenobio Castellanos (1 Nov 1865, La Barca)
> that includes both sets of grandparents. From my experience, this was a
> great find. I'm glad to have names, but have little else. This also suggests
> that these sets of grandparents were present in the region. Is this a
> correct assumption, that the records of baptism include people who were
> physically present? In any case, the grand parents (my GGGG grand parents)
> were Jose Antonio Castellanos / Dorotea Dias (Guillermo's parents) and
> Eduwiges Mendes / Dolores Rodrigues (Rita's parents). I'm making the guess
> that they were born around the 1830's. Incidentally, Eduwiges (Edubigen) and
> other variants are very, very strange to me. In the original baptismal
> record it is next to impossible to read. A transcriber on family search labs
> rendered in Eduwiges. Does any
> one have any history behind such a name? Needless to say researching my
> family history in Mexico is quite the learning experience!
>
> Regards,
>
> Rudy
>
Introduction / Research Questions
Rudy, try and get a copy of the book: "Finding your Mexican
Ancestors A Beginner's Guide" by George and Peggy Ryskamp, it has
a lot of the abriviations that you will find useable in your search. It has been very
helpful for me.
You can get in touch with Carlos Yturralde at Hispanic Heritage Project
email: cyturralde@cox.net and you should be able to order a copy of the
book from his organization.
Happy hunting.
tiodann
> Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:21:01 -0700> From: roodee@thummy.com> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Introduction / Research Questions> > Just wanted to list the URL for my research resources:> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/17222> > Does anyone have any insight into why many entries in baptism records> contain the 'Ma.' prefix? Is it an abbreviation of Maria?> > and> > I was browsing the transcription of film 668255 and found something I found> troubling/interesting. I was searching for Jose Antonio Castellanos and> Dorotea Dias where they appear together as mother and father. I found one> entry that appears to be a positive match. Below that match are five others> with the same Dorotea Dias and variations of a Castellano as the father> (Jose Cirilo, Jose). They are all in the same location/church. Which is more> likely a) they are the same person withs transcription errors or b) they are> different individuals altogther? Here is t
he link to the data:> > http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#fatherSurna…; > > On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 11:03 AM, roodee wrote:> > >> > Hello, I've just joined this group and am looking forward to interacting> > and exchanging information with all of you. I am researching Ruiz, Zavala,> > Castellanos, Dias, Mendes, Rodrigues and Quevedo. Currently I> > am researching the Castellanos and Zavala families that lived near or in La> > Barca. I've been fortunate to find some records of baptism for Porfirio> > Castellano Zavala (Sep 17 1875) my GG Grandfather. The records indicate> > that the baptism took place in San Juan Bosco so this suggests that they> > lived near that local parish. What is curious to me is the criss-crossing of> > surnames. For example, Porfirio Castellanos Zavala was married to Guadalupe> > Castellanos (born October 7th 1875 in La Barca).
However, Porfirio's mother> > Refugia (born about 1860) was also a Castellanos! Unfortunately, I cannot> > find much more information about Refugia's family.> > Guadalupe's parents were Guillermo Castellnos (born about 1849) and Rita> > Mendes (born about 1850). I was very fortunate to find a record of baptism> > for one of their other children Cenobio Castellanos (1 Nov 1865, La Barca)> > that includes both sets of grandparents. From my experience, this was a> > great find. I'm glad to have names, but have little else. This also suggests> > that these sets of grandparents were present in the region. Is this a> > correct assumption, that the records of baptism include people who were> > physically present? In any case, the grand parents (my GGGG grand parents)> > were Jose Antonio Castellanos / Dorotea Dias (Guillermo's parents) and> > Eduwiges Mendes / Dolores Rodrigues (Rita's parents). I'm making the guess> > that they were born around the 1830's. Incidentally, Eduwiges (
Edubigen) and> > other variants are very, very strange to me. In the original baptismal> > record it is next to impossible to read. A transcriber on family search labs> > rendered in Eduwiges. Does any> > one have any history behind such a name? Needless to say researching my> > family history in Mexico is quite the learning experience!> >> > Regards,> >> > Rudy> >> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --> > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> >> > To post, send email to:> > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> >> > To change your subscription, log on to:> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org> >> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
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Introduction / Research Questions
Hello Rudy, This is Rudy.
I too have found "Finding your Mexican Ancestors A Begginer's Guide" helpful. I purchased my copy form AMAZON.COM. Good luck in your search.
Rudy Munoz - Phoenix, AZ
---- DANIEL ESPARZA wrote:
>
> Rudy, try and get a copy of the book: "Finding your Mexican
> Ancestors A Beginner's Guide" by George and Peggy Ryskamp, it has
> a lot of the abriviations that you will find useable in your search. It has been very
> helpful for me.
>
> You can get in touch with Carlos Yturralde at Hispanic Heritage Project
> email: cyturralde@cox.net and you should be able to order a copy of the
> book from his organization.
>
> Happy hunting.
>
> tiodann
>
> > Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:21:01 -0700> From: roodee@thummy.com> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Introduction / Research Questions> > Just wanted to list the URL for my research resources:> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/17222> > Does anyone have any insight into why many entries in baptism records> contain the 'Ma.' prefix? Is it an abbreviation of Maria?> > and> > I was browsing the transcription of film 668255 and found something I found> troubling/interesting. I was searching for Jose Antonio Castellanos and> Dorotea Dias where they appear together as mother and father. I found one> entry that appears to be a positive match. Below that match are five others> with the same Dorotea Dias and variations of a Castellano as the father> (Jose Cirilo, Jose). They are all in the same location/church. Which is more> likely a) they are the same person withs transcription errors or b) they are> different individuals altogther? Here is
t
> he link to the data:> > http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#fatherSurna…; > > On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 11:03 AM, roodee wrote:> > >> > Hello, I've just joined this group and am looking forward to interacting> > and exchanging information with all of you. I am researching Ruiz, Zavala,> > Castellanos, Dias, Mendes, Rodrigues and Quevedo. Currently I> > am researching the Castellanos and Zavala families that lived near or in La> > Barca. I've been fortunate to find some records of baptism for Porfirio> > Castellano Zavala (Sep 17 1875) my GG Grandfather. The records indicate> > that the baptism took place in San Juan Bosco so this suggests that they> > lived near that local parish. What is curious to me is the criss-crossing of> > surnames. For example, Porfirio Castellanos Zavala was married to Guadalupe> > Castellanos (born October 7th 1875 in La Barca)
.
> However, Porfirio's mother> > Refugia (born about 1860) was also a Castellanos! Unfortunately, I cannot> > find much more information about Refugia's family.> > Guadalupe's parents were Guillermo Castellnos (born about 1849) and Rita> > Mendes (born about 1850). I was very fortunate to find a record of baptism> > for one of their other children Cenobio Castellanos (1 Nov 1865, La Barca)> > that includes both sets of grandparents. From my experience, this was a> > great find. I'm glad to have names, but have little else. This also suggests> > that these sets of grandparents were present in the region. Is this a> > correct assumption, that the records of baptism include people who were> > physically present? In any case, the grand parents (my GGGG grand parents)> > were Jose Antonio Castellanos / Dorotea Dias (Guillermo's parents) and> > Eduwiges Mendes / Dolores Rodrigues (Rita's parents). I'm making the guess> > that they were born around the 1830's. Incidentally, Eduwiges
(
> Edubigen) and> > other variants are very, very strange to me. In the original baptismal> > record it is next to impossible to read. A transcriber on family search labs> > rendered in Eduwiges. Does any> > one have any history behind such a name? Needless to say researching my> > family history in Mexico is quite the learning experience!> >> > Regards,> >> > Rudy> >> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --> > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> >> > To post, send email to:> > research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> >> > To change your subscription, log on to:> > http://www.nuestrosranchos.org> >> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
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Introduction / Research Questions
Rudy,
You are correct, abbreviation Ma stands for Maria. Other common abbreviations are Jph for Joseph, Mgl for Miguel, Antto for Antonio, Ju for Juan, Fco, for Francisco. Xbal, for Christobal.
Jaime
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rudy Ruiz"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 5:21:01 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Introduction / Research Questions
Just wanted to list the URL for my research resources:
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/17222
Does anyone have any insight into why many entries in baptism records
contain the 'Ma.' prefix? Is it an abbreviation of Maria?
and
I was browsing the transcription of film 668255 and found something I found
troubling/interesting. I was searching for Jose Antonio Castellanos and
Dorotea Dias where they appear together as mother and father. I found one
entry that appears to be a positive match. Below that match are five others
with the same Dorotea Dias and variations of a Castellano as the father
(Jose Cirilo, Jose). They are all in the same location/church. Which is more
likely a) they are the same person withs transcription errors or b) they are
different individuals altogther? Here is the link to the data:
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#fatherSurna…
On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 11:03 AM, roodee wrote:
>
> Hello, I've just joined this group and am looking forward to interacting
> and exchanging information with all of you. I am researching Ruiz, Zavala,
> Castellanos, Dias, Mendes, Rodrigues and Quevedo. Currently I
> am researching the Castellanos and Zavala families that lived near or in La
> Barca. I've been fortunate to find some records of baptism for Porfirio
> Castellano Zavala (Sep 17 1875) my GG Grandfather. The records indicate
> that the baptism took place in San Juan Bosco so this suggests that they
> lived near that local parish. What is curious to me is the criss-crossing of
> surnames. For example, Porfirio Castellanos Zavala was married to Guadalupe
> Castellanos (born October 7th 1875 in La Barca). However, Porfirio's mother
> Refugia (born about 1860) was also a Castellanos! Unfortunately, I cannot
> find much more information about Refugia's family.
> Guadalupe's parents were Guillermo Castellnos (born about 1849) and Rita
> Mendes (born about 1850). I was very fortunate to find a record of baptism
> for one of their other children Cenobio Castellanos (1 Nov 1865, La Barca)
> that includes both sets of grandparents. From my experience, this was a
> great find. I'm glad to have names, but have little else. This also suggests
> that these sets of grandparents were present in the region. Is this a
> correct assumption, that the records of baptism include people who were
> physically present? In any case, the grand parents (my GGGG grand parents)
> were Jose Antonio Castellanos / Dorotea Dias (Guillermo's parents) and
> Eduwiges Mendes / Dolores Rodrigues (Rita's parents). I'm making the guess
> that they were born around the 1830's. Incidentally, Eduwiges (Edubigen) and
> other variants are very, very strange to me. In the original baptismal
> record it is next to impossible to read. A transcriber on family search labs
> rendered in Eduwiges. Does any
> one have any history behind such a name? Needless to say researching my
> family history in Mexico is quite the learning experience!
>
> Regards,
>
> Rudy
>
Introduction / Research Questions
Ruddy:
Welcome to this family, I'm glad more people searches their roots each time. I search families in La Barca too, unfortunately they aren't the same as you (we don't have a match), but according to my experience, I can tell you that it is very frecuent people who extracted the names in the records misspell the names, so it is fine if you find Eduviges (the original name) as well as Edubiges or Eduwiges. At the time your GG greatmother was born, the usage was EDUWIGES.
Wish you luck and work hard in your pedigree, that's the way we can KNOW more about our ancestors.
If it sin't useless, I look for the VALDIVIA, MACIAS, SANTIAGO and NAVARRO from La Barca, Tepatitlan, Lagos de Moreno, Sn Juan de los Lagos, and all Los Altos region. If you (or somebody else finds a match just let me know please).
Best regards.
LIC. ALESSANDRO VITELA
Ser de Luz!!!> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> From: roodee@thummy.com> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 11:03:36 -0700> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Introduction / Research Questions> > > Hello, I've just joined this group and am looking forward to interacting and exchanging information with all of you. I am researching Ruiz, Zavala, Castellanos, Dias, Mendes, Rodrigues and Quevedo. Currently I> am researching the Castellanos and Zavala families that lived near or in La Barca. I've been fortunate to find some records of baptism for Porfirio Castellano Zavala (Sep 17 1875) my GG Grandfather. The records indicate that the baptism took place in San Juan Bosco so this suggests that they lived near that local parish. What is curious to me is the criss-crossing of surnames. For example, Porfirio Castellanos Zavala was married to Guadalupe Castellanos (born October 7th 1875 in La Barca). However, Porfirio's mother Refugia (born about 1860) was also a Castellanos! Unfortunately, I cannot find much more information about Refugia's family. > > Guadalupe's parents were Guillermo Castellnos (born about 1849) and Rita Mendes (born about 1850). I was very fortunate to find a record of baptism for one of their other children Cenobio Castellanos (1 Nov 1865, La Barca) that includes both sets of grandparents. From my experience, this was a great find. I'm glad to have names, but have little else. This also suggests that these sets of grandparents were present in the region. Is this a correct assumption, that the records of baptism include people who were physically present? In any case, the grand parents (my GGGG grand parents) were Jose Antonio Castellanos / Dorotea Dias (Guillermo's parents) and Eduwiges Mendes / Dolores Rodrigues (Rita's parents). I'm making the guess that they were born around the 1830's. Incidentally, Eduwiges (Edubigen) and other variants are very, very strange to me. In the original baptismal record it is next to impossible to read. A transcriber on family search labs rendered in Eduwiges. Does any> one have any history behind such a name? Needless to say researching my family history in Mexico is quite the learning experience!> > Regards,> > Rudy> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --> Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
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Introduction / Research Questions
Welcome, Rudy,
My father had among his ancestors people named Eduviges, or Edubiges, or Edubigen. St. Helwig was a Saint born in Bavaria in the 1100s. Read about her here: http://saints.sqpn.com/sainth03.htm
Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
----- Original Message -----
From: roodee
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 11:03 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Introduction / Research Questions
Hello, I've just joined this group and am looking forward to interacting and exchanging information with all of you. I am researching Ruiz, Zavala, Castellanos, Dias, Mendes, Rodrigues and Quevedo. Currently I
am researching the Castellanos and Zavala families that lived near or in La Barca. I've been fortunate to find some records of baptism for Porfirio Castellano Zavala (Sep 17 1875) my GG Grandfather. The records indicate that the baptism took place in San Juan Bosco so this suggests that they lived near that local parish. What is curious to me is the criss-crossing of surnames. For example, Porfirio Castellanos Zavala was married to Guadalupe Castellanos (born October 7th 1875 in La Barca). However, Porfirio's mother Refugia (born about 1860) was also a Castellanos! Unfortunately, I cannot find much more information about Refugia's family.
Guadalupe's parents were Guillermo Castellnos (born about 1849) and Rita Mendes (born about 1850). I was very fortunate to find a record of baptism for one of their other children Cenobio Castellanos (1 Nov 1865, La Barca) that includes both sets of grandparents. From my experience, this was a great find. I'm glad to have names, but have little else. This also suggests that these sets of grandparents were present in the region. Is this a correct assumption, that the records of baptism include people who were physically present? In any case, the grand parents (my GGGG grand parents) were Jose Antonio Castellanos / Dorotea Dias (Guillermo's parents) and Eduwiges Mendes / Dolores Rodrigues (Rita's parents). I'm making the guess that they were born around the 1830's. Incidentally, Eduwiges (Edubigen) and other variants are very, very strange to me. In the original baptismal record it is next to impossible to read. A transcriber on family search labs rendered in Eduwiges. Does a
ny
one have any history behind such a name? Needless to say researching my family history in Mexico is quite the learning experience!
Regards,
Rudy
Introduction / Research Questions
Rudy, I said St. Helwig, but it is really Hedwig (Eduviges).
Emilie
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From: Emilie Garcia
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Introduction / Research Questions
Welcome, Rudy,
My father had among his ancestors people named Eduviges, or Edubiges, or Edubigen. St. Helwig was a Saint born in Bavaria in the 1100s. Read about her here: http://saints.sqpn.com/sainth03.htm>
Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
----- Original Message -----
From: roodee>
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 11:03 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Introduction / Research Questions
Hello, I've just joined this group and am looking forward to interacting and exchanging information with all of you. I am researching Ruiz, Zavala, Castellanos, Dias, Mendes, Rodrigues and Quevedo. Currently I
am researching the Castellanos and Zavala families that lived near or in La Barca. I've been fortunate to find some records of baptism for Porfirio Castellano Zavala (Sep 17 1875) my GG Grandfather. The records indicate that the baptism took place in San Juan Bosco so this suggests that they lived near that local parish. What is curious to me is the criss-crossing of surnames. For example, Porfirio Castellanos Zavala was married to Guadalupe Castellanos (born October 7th 1875 in La Barca). However, Porfirio's mother Refugia (born about 1860) was also a Castellanos! Unfortunately, I cannot find much more information about Refugia's family.
Guadalupe's parents were Guillermo Castellnos (born about 1849) and Rita Mendes (born about 1850). I was very fortunate to find a record of baptism for one of their other children Cenobio Castellanos (1 Nov 1865, La Barca) that includes both sets of grandparents. From my experience, this was a great find. I'm glad to have names, but have little else. This also suggests that these sets of grandparents were present in the region. Is this a correct assumption, that the records of baptism include people who were physically present? In any case, the grand parents (my GGGG grand parents) were Jose Antonio Castellanos / Dorotea Dias (Guillermo's parents) and Eduwiges Mendes / Dolores Rodrigues (Rita's parents). I'm making the guess that they were born around the 1830's. Incidentally, Eduwiges (Edubigen) and other variants are very, very strange to me. In the original baptismal record it is next to impossible to read. A transcriber on family search labs rendered in Eduwiges. Does
a
ny
one have any history behind such a name? Needless to say researching my family history in Mexico is quite the learning experience!
Regards,
Rudy