PIOQUINTO JAUREGUI AND MARIA DOLORES YANES INFO NOCHISTLAN ZACATECAS MEXICO
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Im trying to find these individuals parents as well but i just can't seem to find them either they are form nochistlan zacatecas i descend from their son Jose Del Refugio Jauregui he married Maria Encarnacio Lozano middle 1800's.
This was his second marriage, his first was to Maria Victoriana Mejia. This marriage records shows that there was a dispensation for the marriage of Jose Refugio Jauregui and Maria Encarnacion Losano. You may want to check on the marriage dispensation and it may have additional information as to the origins of the parents of the bride and the groom.
Alicia
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Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 11:49 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] PIOQUINTO JAUREGUI AND MARIA DOLORES YANES INFO NOCHISTLAN ZACATECAS MEXICO
Im trying to find these individuals parents as well but i just can't seem to find them either they are form nochistlan zacatecas i descend from their son Jose Del Refugio Jauregui he married Maria Encarnacio Lozano middle 1800's.
Abram Flores
Where can i find this marriage dispensation.So you mean if i get to the marriage dispensation i can find the parents of Pioquinto Jauregui and Maria Dolores Yanes.
No. The dispensation will give the ancestors of someone else he has an
afinity with. That is different from consanguinity.
Armando
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 4:33 PM, wrote:
> Abram Flores
> Where can i find this marriage dispensation.So you mean if i get to the
> marriage dispensation i can find the parents of Pioquinto Jauregui and
> Maria Dolores Yanes.
I have gathered lots of information on this individual Jose Del Refugio Jauregui.
He was married three times first marriage with Maria Casimira Perez on November 26 1882 they had approx 9 kids all born in Nochistlan.Second marriage was with Maria Victoriana Meji on May 6 1837 in Nochistlan and they had around 8 children.Last wife which whom i descend from Maria Encarnacion Lozano married on september 18 1851 in Nochistlan. Unfortunately all these documents did not help locate Jose Del Refugios grandparents what can I do next Armando?
The next step is to find all of the children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren, of Pioquinto Jáuregui, and their marriages to see if there is a mention of a dispensa. If there is then you can try and find the ancestors of the spouse. This might give you at least a sibling of Pioquinto which could lead to his parents.
You should also keep your Geneanet.org tree updated. I might be able to find something if you do that with links to the each document you find. You can email me directly once you update it.
Here is an example - Francisco Borja Gómez had a dispensa de cuarto grado de afinidad for his marriage on 25 de agosto 1801 to María Juliana de los Dolores Jáuregui Yañez https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15186-10456-90?cc=1410092&wc… who was probably related to the first wife of Francisco Borja, María Josefa Dominga Cervantes Ulloa the daughter of José Julián Cervantes & Barbara de Ulloa. Now you have to find the grandparents of María Josefa Dominga Cervantes Ulloa or the dispensa. Neither task is easy, but finding the dispensa is most likely harder.
Mission accomplished I luckily found Maria Josefas grandparents
Paterno:Christobal Servantes Y Dona Maria Felipa(didn't mention her last name)
Materno:Luis De Ulloa Y Rosa Delgadillo.
What is the document you are basing that info on? Always provide sources when giving such information. Always cite the source in your online tree also. Have you updated Geneanet?
If your source is good then you also have to find the great-grandparents (bisabuelos) and then the tatarabuelos of María Josefa Dominga Cervantes Ulloa. Her tatarabuelos should also be the tatarabuelos of María Juliana de los Dolores Jáuregui Yañez which would be the bisabuelos of Pioquinto Jáuregui or María Dolores Yañez. Then I'll let you know the next steps after that.
I am not getting emails from Nuestros Ranchos because of trouble with the website. When you post here email me directly if you would like me to see the posts sooner than I normally would see them.
I got this info from the baptism of Antonio Felipe son of Joseph Servantes & Dona Maria Barvara Ulloa https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15089-36444-28?cc=1410092&wc….
I have not updated my geneat but now that you i asked i shall.
Alrighty i guess i have a lot of work to get done here well worth it.
Ggrandfather:Juan Yanez Del Monte
Ggrandmother:Ursula Peres De Frias
Maternal
Grandfather:Cristoval Delgadillo
Ggrandmother:Francisca Gil De Sotomayor
I'll post up my sources once I find my note book where all that info is located.Since i couldn't find Maria Josephas Ggrandparents and tatara abuelos what is my next option?
It is important to differentiate between afinidad and consanguinidad when
it comes to dispensas. The dispensa was for afinidad. This most likely
means the bride, María Encarnación Lozano, was related to the first wife,
María Victoriana Mejia. He may be able to find their blood relationship
through the birth and marriage records available instead of having to go
search for the dispensa.
Armando
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Alicia Carrillo wrote:
> You might already have this information but in case you don't, here it is.
>
>
> So this is the wedding date for your ancestors, Refugio Jauregui and Maria
> Encarnacion Losano, 18 Sept, 1851:
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JZXF-4MP
>
> This is the marriage record for Jose Refugio Jaurequi and Maria
> Encarnacion Losano, bottom right hand corner from El Salto.
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15191-45194-11?cc=1410092&wc…
>
>
> This was his second marriage, his first was to Maria Victoriana Mejia.
> This marriage records shows that there was a dispensation for the marriage
> of Jose Refugio Jauregui and Maria Encarnacion Losano. You may want to
> check on the marriage dispensation and it may have additional information
> as to the origins of the parents of the bride and the groom.
>
> Alicia
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "aflore2855@gmail.com"
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 11:49 PM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] PIOQUINTO JAUREGUI AND MARIA DOLORES YANES
> INFO NOCHISTLAN ZACATECAS MEXICO
>
> Im trying to find these individuals parents as well but i just can't seem
> to find them either they are form nochistlan zacatecas i descend from their
> son Jose Del Refugio Jauregui he married Maria Encarnacio Lozano middle
> 1800's.
PIOQUINTO JAUREGUI AND MARIA DOLORES YANES INFO NOCHISTLAN ZACAT
You might already have this information but in case you don't, here it is.
So this is the wedding date for your ancestors, Refugio Jauregui and Maria Encarnacion Losano, 18 Sept, 1851: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JZXF-4MP
This is the marriage record for Jose Refugio Jaurequi and Maria Encarnacion Losano, bottom right hand corner from El Salto. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15191-45194-11?cc=1410092&wc…
This was his second marriage, his first was to Maria Victoriana Mejia. This marriage records shows that there was a dispensation for the marriage of Jose Refugio Jauregui and Maria Encarnacion Losano. You may want to check on the marriage dispensation and it may have additional information as to the origins of the parents of the bride and the groom.
Alicia
________________________________
From: "aflore2855@gmail.com"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 11:49 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] PIOQUINTO JAUREGUI AND MARIA DOLORES YANES INFO NOCHISTLAN ZACATECAS MEXICO
Im trying to find these individuals parents as well but i just can't seem to find them either they are form nochistlan zacatecas i descend from their son Jose Del Refugio Jauregui he married Maria Encarnacio Lozano middle 1800's.
[Nuestros Ranchos]
Abram Flores
Where can i find this marriage dispensation.So you mean if i get to the marriage dispensation i can find the parents of Pioquinto Jauregui and Maria Dolores Yanes.
(no subject)
No. The dispensation will give the ancestors of someone else he has an
afinity with. That is different from consanguinity.
Armando
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 4:33 PM, wrote:
> Abram Flores
> Where can i find this marriage dispensation.So you mean if i get to the
> marriage dispensation i can find the parents of Pioquinto Jauregui and
> Maria Dolores Yanes.
Jose Del Refugio Jauregui
Armando,
I have gathered lots of information on this individual Jose Del Refugio Jauregui.
He was married three times first marriage with Maria Casimira Perez on November 26 1882 they had approx 9 kids all born in Nochistlan.Second marriage was with Maria Victoriana Meji on May 6 1837 in Nochistlan and they had around 8 children.Last wife which whom i descend from Maria Encarnacion Lozano married on september 18 1851 in Nochistlan. Unfortunately all these documents did not help locate Jose Del Refugios grandparents what can I do next Armando?
Jose Del Refugio Jauregui
Abram,
The next step is to find all of the children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren, of Pioquinto Jáuregui, and their marriages to see if there is a mention of a dispensa. If there is then you can try and find the ancestors of the spouse. This might give you at least a sibling of Pioquinto which could lead to his parents.
You should also keep your Geneanet.org tree updated. I might be able to find something if you do that with links to the each document you find. You can email me directly once you update it.
Armando
Example
Here is an example - Francisco Borja Gómez had a dispensa de cuarto grado de afinidad for his marriage on 25 de agosto 1801 to María Juliana de los Dolores Jáuregui Yañez https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15186-10456-90?cc=1410092&wc… who was probably related to the first wife of Francisco Borja, María Josefa Dominga Cervantes Ulloa the daughter of José Julián Cervantes & Barbara de Ulloa. Now you have to find the grandparents of María Josefa Dominga Cervantes Ulloa or the dispensa. Neither task is easy, but finding the dispensa is most likely harder.
Armando
Grandparents of Maria Josefa Dominga Cervantes Ulloa
Armando,
Mission accomplished I luckily found Maria Josefas grandparents
Paterno:Christobal Servantes Y Dona Maria Felipa(didn't mention her last name)
Materno:Luis De Ulloa Y Rosa Delgadillo.
Grandparents of Maria Josefa Dominga Cervantes Ulloa
What is the document you are basing that info on? Always provide sources when giving such information. Always cite the source in your online tree also. Have you updated Geneanet?
If your source is good then you also have to find the great-grandparents (bisabuelos) and then the tatarabuelos of María Josefa Dominga Cervantes Ulloa. Her tatarabuelos should also be the tatarabuelos of María Juliana de los Dolores Jáuregui Yañez which would be the bisabuelos of Pioquinto Jáuregui or María Dolores Yañez. Then I'll let you know the next steps after that.
I am not getting emails from Nuestros Ranchos because of trouble with the website. When you post here email me directly if you would like me to see the posts sooner than I normally would see them.
Armando
Antonio's baptism doc.
Armando,
I got this info from the baptism of Antonio Felipe son of Joseph Servantes & Dona Maria Barvara Ulloa
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15089-36444-28?cc=1410092&wc….
I have not updated my geneat but now that you i asked i shall.
Alrighty i guess i have a lot of work to get done here well worth it.
Maria Josepha Dominga Cervantes Ulloa??
Armando,
I really failed at finding Maria Josphas tataraabuelos.Did not find anything; is there anything else i can do to find Pioquintos parents?
I did find Pioquintos wife Maria Dolores Yanez ancestors all the way to Gonzalo Yanez Del Monte.
Maria Josepha Dominga Cervantes Ulloa??
Who are the parents and grandparents of María Dolores Yañez and which documents provide that proof?
Armando
Maria Josepha Dominga Cervantes Ulloa??
Armando,
Parents
Father:Bernardo Yanez
Mother:Maria Frutosa Delgadillo
Grandparents
Paternal
Grandfather:Jospeh Yanez
Grandmother:Antonia Anriso
Maternal
Granfather:Ygnacio Delgadillo
Grandmother:Josepha Ballin
Great Grand Parents
Paternal
Ggrandfather:Juan Yanez Del Monte
Ggrandmother:Ursula Peres De Frias
Maternal
Grandfather:Cristoval Delgadillo
Ggrandmother:Francisca Gil De Sotomayor
I'll post up my sources once I find my note book where all that info is located.Since i couldn't find Maria Josephas Ggrandparents and tatara abuelos what is my next option?
PIOQUINTO JAUREGUI AND MARIA DOLORES YANES INFO NOCHISTLAN ZACAT
It is important to differentiate between afinidad and consanguinidad when
it comes to dispensas. The dispensa was for afinidad. This most likely
means the bride, María Encarnación Lozano, was related to the first wife,
María Victoriana Mejia. He may be able to find their blood relationship
through the birth and marriage records available instead of having to go
search for the dispensa.
Armando
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Alicia Carrillo wrote:
> You might already have this information but in case you don't, here it is.
>
>
> So this is the wedding date for your ancestors, Refugio Jauregui and Maria
> Encarnacion Losano, 18 Sept, 1851:
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JZXF-4MP
>
> This is the marriage record for Jose Refugio Jaurequi and Maria
> Encarnacion Losano, bottom right hand corner from El Salto.
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15191-45194-11?cc=1410092&wc…
>
>
> This was his second marriage, his first was to Maria Victoriana Mejia.
> This marriage records shows that there was a dispensation for the marriage
> of Jose Refugio Jauregui and Maria Encarnacion Losano. You may want to
> check on the marriage dispensation and it may have additional information
> as to the origins of the parents of the bride and the groom.
>
> Alicia
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "aflore2855@gmail.com"
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 11:49 PM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] PIOQUINTO JAUREGUI AND MARIA DOLORES YANES
> INFO NOCHISTLAN ZACATECAS MEXICO
>
> Im trying to find these individuals parents as well but i just can't seem
> to find them either they are form nochistlan zacatecas i descend from their
> son Jose Del Refugio Jauregui he married Maria Encarnacio Lozano middle
> 1800's.