This was done thru Ancestry.com and I'm sort of confused.
**Brit: 34% (father's side)
**East Asian: 17% (Huh?)
**Scandinavian: 11% (Huh? I've read elsewhere that so many people are coming up with Scandinavian results that some wonder if there's a mistake happening on ancestry.com.)
**South Asian (India, Pakistan, Nepal, Bhutan, Bangladesh): 10% (Huh?)
**Native North American: 8% (No surprise, as I'm Mexican. Just thought it might be higher.)
**Southern Europe: 7% (Again, as a Mexican, I would expect Spanish blood, I just thought it might be more.)
**Native South American: 6% (Huh?)
**Uncertain: 7%
Questions:
Do Native Americans ever/often come up with Asian results, (since they migrated from Asia)?
Could South Asian be gypsies from Spain?
I'm not sure where the Native South American comes from. Do many Mexicans come up with this? Is this DNA from Natives who were in Mexico and continued on south?
I'm also curious if many Latinos ever come up with Middle Eastern results, since the Moors were in Spain for so long.
I know very little about all this, and I know to take it with a "grain of salt" so to speak. (But I am pretty excited!)
Any thoughts or comments?
Thanks,
Laura Gonzalez
dna results
I just got my results also,,,i had the test done by family tree..i was also surprised by the results..59.01 french,romanian,spanish.....26.64 maya,,and 14.35 mozabite,palestinian,jewish,bedouin......i was thinking more asian...everybody thinks i have some japanese..and people think my mother is filipina...Ana Lemmer
My Dna Results are back
Regarding Scandinavian results, slaves from Scandinavia were sold in the slave markets of Seville back when the Moors controlled that part of the Iberian Peninsula. Slaves in Spain were often people taken as prisoners of war, so dont just think in terms of people from sub-Saharan Africa captured and sold into slavery. And there were a lot of slaves in general in Seville in the 1400's and 1500's, so the relatively high percentage of Scandinavian genes is really not so surprising.
See this excerpt on the topic of scandinavian slaves in Spain:
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=T2grY7NbnygC&pg=PA154&lpg=PA154&dq=s…
from:
Slavery and Social Death: A Comparative Study,Harvard University Press, 1982 p. 154 - 156, by Orlando Patterson
Regards,
Denise Fastrup
DNA-Scandinavian Connection, etc.
Denise,
Thanks, that's pretty interesting. I was thinking last night that the Scandinavian part might have been from the British Isles, since the Vikings were in parts of England and Ireland raping and pillaging. I had no idea there were Scandinavian slaves in Spain; I will definitely read up on this.
Kristine,
If you're Mexican, the Southern European would be expected, even if you haven't found the source yet. Native South American might be from waaaay back when they left some DNA in Mexico on their way to SA. That's what I'm assuming with *my* Native South American results.
Ana,
Your Middle Eastern results are what I was wondering about when I asked if many Latinos come up with this. It might come from Jews/Arabs being in Spain. I wonder how scientists differentiate between Jews and Palestinians tho. Hmmmm... I think the Maya is the part that makes you look Asian.
Errata.
After doing some "research" on the internet, I think my East Asian genes really indicate Native American (which is not totally uncommon), but then why don't they just show up as NA? I also figured and read that many think the South Asian is indeed Gypsy/Roma, which I'm guessing came by way of Spain. I wish I could get my mother to take the test, so we could compare results (tho she's full Mexican).
One of my biggest surprises was how far back the testing went. I'm really surprised by the whole East Asian & Scandinavian parts. I guess there could've been some chinos in my family in Mexico or something, but somehow I don't think so.
Laura Gonzalez
DNA-Scandinavian Connection, etc.
Chinos in Mexico? My father who was from Zacatecas said there were "chinos", but I found out that they were Filipinos brought in ships from the Philipine Islands. The Philipines were part of King Philip of Spain's empire.
Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: mayangrl@sonic.net
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:59:20 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] DNA-Scandinavian Connection, etc.
>
> Denise,
>
> Thanks, that's pretty interesting. I was thinking last night that the Scandinavian part might have been from the British Isles, since the Vikings were in parts of England and Ireland raping and pillaging. I had no idea there were Scandinavian slaves in Spain; I will definitely read up on this.
>
> Kristine,
>
> If you're Mexican, the Southern European would be expected, even if you haven't found the source yet. Native South American might be from waaaay back when they left some DNA in Mexico on their way to SA. That's what I'm assuming with *my* Native South American results.
>
> Ana,
>
> Your Middle Eastern results are what I was wondering about when I asked if many Latinos come up with this. It might come from Jews/Arabs being in Spain. I wonder how scientists differentiate between Jews and Palestinians tho. Hmmmm... I think the Maya is the part that makes you look Asian.
>
> Errata.
>
> After doing some "research" on the internet, I think my East Asian genes really indicate Native American (which is not totally uncommon), but then why don't they just show up as NA? I also figured and read that many think the South Asian is indeed Gypsy/Roma, which I'm guessing came by way of Spain. I wish I could get my mother to take the test, so we could compare results (tho she's full Mexican).
>
> One of my biggest surprises was how far back the testing went. I'm really surprised by the whole East Asian & Scandinavian parts. I guess there could've been some chinos in my family in Mexico or something, but somehow I don't think so.
>
>
> Laura Gonzalez
DNA-Scandinavian Connection, etc.
You're so right Emilie,
That's why the Phillipines were named after King Phillip, thus, the Phillipines.
Alicia
________________________________
From: Emilie Garcia
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] DNA-Scandinavian Connection, etc.
Chinos in Mexico? My father who was from Zacatecas said there were "chinos", but I found out that they were Filipinos brought in ships from the Philipine Islands. The Philipines were part of King Philip of Spain's empire.
Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: mayangrl@sonic.net
> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 17:59:20 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] DNA-Scandinavian Connection, etc.
>
> Denise,
>
> Thanks, that's pretty interesting. I was thinking last night that the Scandinavian part might have been from the British Isles, since the Vikings were in parts of England and Ireland raping and pillaging. I had no idea there were Scandinavian slaves in Spain; I will definitely read up on this.
>
> Kristine,
>
> If you're Mexican, the Southern European would be expected, even if you haven't found the source yet. Native South American might be from waaaay back when they left some DNA in Mexico on their way to SA. That's what I'm assuming with *my* Native South American results.
>
> Ana,
>
> Your Middle Eastern results are what I was wondering about when I asked if many Latinos come up with this. It might come from Jews/Arabs being in Spain. I wonder how scientists differentiate between Jews and Palestinians tho. Hmmmm... I think the Maya is the part that makes you look Asian.
>
> Errata.
>
> After doing some "research" on the internet, I think my East Asian genes really indicate Native American (which is not totally uncommon), but then why don't they just show up as NA? I also figured and read that many think the South Asian is indeed Gypsy/Roma, which I'm guessing came by way of Spain. I wish I could get my mother to take the test, so we could compare results (tho she's full Mexican).
>
> One of my biggest surprises was how far back the testing went. I'm really surprised by the whole East Asian & Scandinavian parts. I guess there could've been some chinos in my family in Mexico or something, but somehow I don't think so.
>
>
> Laura Gonzalez
DNA-Scandinavian Connection, etc.
Laura,
The test you took is what is called an Autosomal STR test. What they do is
match certain STR results with certain regions but the database is so small
that it isn't really accurate. Apart from that DNA is much older than any
of the ethnic groups that have existed over the past 2,000 years. Also,
ethnicities, languages, nationalities, and DNA are exclusive of each other.
The people they are calling English or Scandinavian could have been the
same hunter-gatherers that first entered Europe 40,000 or so years ago or
the farmers that entered Europe at a later date.
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2012/07/bronze-age-indo-european-invasion-…
Something to keep in mind is that the Y-DNA of the British is very similar
to Spanish Y-DNA and they probably don't have enough samples from Spaniards
to differentiate them from other Europeans.
There are a lot of people that are upset with their results from
Ancestry.com DNA test results
http://www.thegeneticgenealogist.com/2012/04/02/a-review-of-ancestrydna…
There are hints of Asian ancestry in Northern Europeans
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2012/07/hints-of-eastcentral-asian-admixtu…
DNA of Mexican Indians from central and southern Mexico match closely with
those from South America. The Indians from the north such as the Tarahumara
match with Indians from the U.S. such as the Pima. Unfortunately
Ancestry.com doesn't understand Mexico is in North America.
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2012/05/y-chromosome-diversity-in-native.h…
Here is another study on Native Americans -
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2012/05/y-chromosome-diversity-in-native.h…
Here is a comparative study of Jews and non-Jews -
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2012/08/fastibd-analysis-of-several-jewish…
National Geographic will be starting a new Genographic 2.0 project with a
Illumina iSelect HD chip and about about 150,000 SNPs
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2012/07/genographic-20-launched.html
https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/
http://www.yourgeneticgenealogist.com/2012/07/national-geographic-and-f…
Saludos,
Armando
On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 7:59 PM, wrote:
> Denise,
> Thanks, that's pretty interesting. I was thinking last night that the
> Scandinavian part might have been from the British Isles, since the Vikings
> were in parts of England and Ireland raping and pillaging. I had no idea
> there were Scandinavian slaves in Spain; I will definitely read up on this.
>
> Kristine,
>
> If you're Mexican, the Southern European would be expected, even if you
> haven't found the source yet. Native South American might be from waaaay
> back when they left some DNA in Mexico on their way to SA. That's what I'm
> assuming with *my* Native South American results.
>
> Ana,
> Your Middle Eastern results are what I was wondering about when I asked if
> many Latinos come up with this. It might come from Jews/Arabs being in
> Spain. I wonder how scientists differentiate between Jews and Palestinians
> tho. Hmmmm... I think the Maya is the part that makes you look Asian.
>
> Errata.
>
> After doing some "research" on the internet, I think my East Asian genes
> really indicate Native American (which is not totally uncommon), but then
> why don't they just show up as NA? I also figured and read that many think
> the South Asian is indeed Gypsy/Roma, which I'm guessing came by way of
> Spain. I wish I could get my mother to take the test, so we could compare
> results (tho she's full Mexican).
>
> One of my biggest surprises was how far back the testing went. I'm really
> surprised by the whole East Asian & Scandinavian parts. I guess there
> could've been some chinos in my family in Mexico or something, but somehow
> I don't think so.
>
> Laura Gonzalez
DNA
Hi Laura, I received my results of family finder
57.04% Europe Western Europe (French, Spanish)
29.62% Central American Native American (Mayan)
8.25 % Midle East Mozabite, Palestinian, Jewish,Bedouin
5.09 % East Asia (Siberian) Yakut
As you can see the Family tree DNA put diferent the result, I think Siberian and Native American is the same and maybe the R1b west european could be from midle east migration several thousands of years bfore the present.
DNA Testing
Laura,
Congratulations on getting your results back. I have not submitted a DNA test for myself, but it's on my agenda. It's my opinion, that you have to disarm yourself and leave aside any pre-conceived notion of who you think you are when you are doing your genealogy research, especially when you are lucky enough to have DNA results. There is a great documentary that helped me understand DNA results that you should watch, if you haven't already: "Human Family Tree" by National Geographic. The last time I checked, it was on Netflix Instant.
My DNA results are back!
Hello,
I also received my DNA results from Ancestry.com, and had some odd results as well. Not quite as varied as yours, but still a little odd.
Native North American 32% (Makes sense, USA & Mexico-but thought this would be higher)
Southern European 26% (Spain.. ok, makes sense-assuming Father side. Haven't found the source yet though)
Native South American 16% (don't know which side yet)
Finnish/Folga-Ural 12%(makes no sense!)I guess I am part Russian & Finnish!!
Uncertain 14%
So you are not alone in receiving some strange information. But I think that it makes the hunt for our ancestors all the more fun and exciting. Of course there is always room for error, as with the "Uncertain" part.
I know this really isn't an answer to your questions, but you are definitely not alone in your DNA test results confusions!
Kristine Wulf