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Por abram101 |

I have gave up my reasearch on my De Armas line cuase i can't seem to pass the brick wall that i am currently in.So the farthest i have gone in this line is in the marriage of Ambrosio De Armas And Quiteria De Velasco.And no i am not being lazy in doing my research i just cant go through that brick wall that im in so if anybody can help it will be trully appreciated.Ambrosio De Armas And Quiteria De Velasco both from Nochistlan here are some of the children that Enrique provided me

withJosé Francisco A. Alvares parents listed as Juan Manuel A. and Jacinta Quiteria Albares.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N1PV-T5S

Simon Antonio, parents listed as Juan Ambrosio and Quiteria Velasques
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NVQ8-ZHL

Juan José Fermin, parents listed as Juan Ambrosio and Quiteria de Olaya
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N8QV-WSZ

José María, parents listed as Juan Ambrosio and María Quiteria
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NVQD-C7P

María Francisca parents listed as Juan Ambrosio de Armas and Quiteria de Velasco
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NVQ8-VQT

You have posted links to the indexed data instead of the images which is more important since they contain info not found in the index.

Have you gone through the images of Información Matrimonial? If not, then you need to and you should index them and share them.

Have you done a Y-DNA 37 marker test with FamilyTreeDNA.com Mexico project? If not you should also do that at http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Mexico-DNA

Armando

Armando,

Sorry about that i will have them up.I have not gone through the images of the informacion matrimonial, any specific reason as to why I should be looking through the informacion matrimonial?I have not but i was planning to take a Dna test only for my maternal line not paternal.

Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1730-1750 Pg 53
Joseph Francisco A. Albares
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15088-17814-39?cc=1410092&wc…

Simon Antonio, parents listed as Juan Ambrosio and Quiteria Velasques
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1730-1750
Image 329
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15088-17274-41?cc=1410092&wc…

Juan José Fermin, parents listed as Juan Ambrosio and Quiteria de Olaya
Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1750-1762 pg 43
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15526-50398-25?cc=1410092&wc…

José María, parents listed as Juan Ambrosio and María Quiteria
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15526-49089-58?cc=1410092&wc…

María Francisca parents listed as Juan Ambrosio de Armas and Quiteria de Velasco
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15526-48390-36?cc=1410092&wc…

Matrimonial investigations will often give information not found in the marriage records; this is especially true for earlier marriages.

Ocassionaly you will find a matrimonial investigation for a couple that you know had children, but cannot find a marriage record.

You should also look at Claudia's indexes of the Diocese of Guadalajara dispensations. Sometimes if there is no matrimonial investigation in the parish files, it is because a dispensation was needed, and this will generally be in the diocesan records.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

George,

After 3 hours i couldn't find theyre names i went through every index in that sight and found nothing on them.Is there anything else i can do than looking over the indexes for abot 3 more hours?it's problably my ignorance.

None of the dispensas mention Ambrosio de Armas. I had told him at least once before (a few months ago) to look through the volumes of información matrimonial but as you can see he didn't even bother to ask why back then or look at them then he has come back and posted the same question two different times in one week.

Armando

Armando

So is there no way possible at all to go farther than Ambrosio de Armas and Quiteria De Velasco?I really want to find the origin of this family.

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