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Research request for Vigil, de Herrera Cantillana, Jimenez de Ancizo and
unknown single woman in Zacatecas area
Confirmation of birth dates, baptisms, marriage dates
When they arrived in New Spain
Related history while in Zacatecas
Juan Montes Vigil, II was born in 1600 in Feligrasa de San Martino de Siero,
Castilla, Spain and died Before 1682 in Vecinos Mexico City. He sailed from
Spain and arrived in Nueva Espana in Jun 20 1611.
Father: Juan Montes Vigil, I was born in 1570 in Siero,
Asturias, Asturias, Spain and died on an unknown date in Spain
Mother: Maria Vigil [de Vigil] was born About 1570 in
Siero, Asturias, Asturias, Spain and died on an unknown date.
Catalina Vigil [de Herrera Cantillana] born in 1600 in San Martino de
Siero, Asturias, Spain, Married Juan Montes II Died in 1619 in Zacatecas New
Spain and died in 1682 in Mexico City, Districto Federal Mexico..
Father? Would like to know more about th de Herrera
Cantillana genealogoy
Mother?
Juan Montes Vigil, III was born in 1620 in Zacatecas New Spain and died in
Oct. 1682 in Zacatecas New Spain. He met Single Woman Unknown.
Who was the Mother of Francisco?
Who was in the household?
Francisco Montes Vigil was born in 1666 in El Real de Zacatecas, New Spain
and died on Sep. 11, 1730 in Santa Cruz Santa Fe New Mexico.
Maria Vigil [Jimenez de Ancizo] was born in 1668 ? in El Real Zacatecas
Married Francisco Montes Vigil 1682 or 1683? in Zacatecas New Spain. Nov.
19, 1745 in Santa Cruz de la Canada New Mexico
Father? Would like to know more about Jimenez de Ancizo family
Mother?
children born to Francisco and Maria in Zacatecas
Domingo Montes Vigil 1693 Augas Calientes, Zacatecas
Maria De La Concepcion 1684
Were there any other family members or household who traveled with
them to New Mexico?
Children born in Santa Cruz de la Canada New Mexico:
Pedro Policarpio Montes 1687
Manuel Montes 1701
Francisco Montes II 1702
Gertrudis Montes Vigil 1704
Juan Montes iv
Eloena
Thank you very much for your assistance! We are very excited to learn more
about our family!
Regards,
Tricia Carrillo, PMP
949 6831776
triciac@cox.net
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Research request for Vigil,
Here is a link to the pasajero record for Juan Montes Vigil I in 1611. He was single when he came to New Spain then married Catalina de Herrera Cantillana in Zacatecas in 1619, according to one site (www.hgrc-nm.org).
http://pares.mcu.es/ParesBusquedas/servlets/ImageServlet?accion=41&txt_…
Research request for Vigil,
Robert Martinez
I wrote an article many years ago titled NOTES ON THE MONTES VIGIL FAMILY OF ZACATECAS for Herencia Journal, which is for the Hispanic Genealogical Research Center of New Mexico. It has a lot of entries from the civil archives in Zacatecas for the Vigil family.
So far, not much is known about the ancestry of Catalina de Herrera Cantillana, except she came from Spain.
I will see if a pasajero entry has been found for her. Francisco's mother may never be known, as in two wills, his father Juan Montes Vigil never gave his mother's name.
The Jimenez de Ancizo family has yet to be researched, to my knowledge. But I am continuing my search for these ancestors, as are many other dedicated researchers and genealogists.
Research request for Vigil, de Herrera Cantillana, Jimenez de An
Hi Tricia,
I'm sorry I can't offer any information on the Vigil family from Zacatecas
but I do have a question for you. It seems that several of the Francisco
Vigil's had this as a surname - Montes Vigil De Santillana
When I go to the LDS new.familysearch.org site and follow the various links
going back I don't see the person who was a
parent/grandparent/greatgrandparent who wore the Santillana surname. Do you
know how Santillana was introduced to this line of Montes Vigil de
Santillana's???
Main reason I'm asking is that my Balthasar Vigil is referred to as
Balthasar Vigil Antillana in one record and since Antillana is so rare I
have to think it is Santillana and that maybe there is a connection here:
Jan.28, 1780 Juana Nepomucena Carvajal, HL Dionicio Carvajal y Juana Vargas
con Jose Antonio Vigil Antillana, HL Barltasar Vigil Antillana y Juana
Lugarda Tafoya
Do you think that the name comes from the "Herrera Cantillana" you mention
in your email. Really stretching here but Balthasar's wife Lugarda Tafoya's
parents are Francisco Tafoya and Juana de Herrera, hmm, wonder if he married
a Herrera that might be related to your Herrera Catillana family?
Thanks for any help,
Joseph
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Joseph Puentes
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org [mailto:research-
> bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Tricia Carrillo
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:55 PM
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Cc: wconnor86@yahoo.com
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Research request for Vigil, de Herrera
Cantillana, Jimenez de
> Ancizo and unknown single woman in Zacatecas area
>
> Research request for Vigil, de Herrera Cantillana, Jimenez de Ancizo and
unknown single
> woman in Zacatecas area Confirmation of birth dates, baptisms, marriage
dates When they
> arrived in New Spain Related history while in Zacatecas
>
> Juan Montes Vigil, II was born in 1600 in Feligrasa de San Martino de
Siero, Castilla,
> Spain and died Before 1682 in Vecinos Mexico City. He sailed from Spain
and arrived in
> Nueva Espana in Jun 20 1611.
> Father: Juan Montes Vigil, I was born in 1570 in Siero,
> Asturias, Asturias, Spain and died on an unknown date in Spain
> Mother: Maria Vigil [de Vigil] was born About 1570 in
Siero, Asturias,
> Asturias, Spain and died on an unknown date.
> Catalina Vigil [de Herrera Cantillana] born in 1600 in San Martino de
Siero, Asturias,
> Spain, Married Juan Montes II Died in 1619 in Zacatecas New Spain and
died in 1682 in
> Mexico City, Districto Federal Mexico..
> Father? Would like to know more about th de Herrera
Cantillana
> genealogoy
> Mother?
> Juan Montes Vigil, III was born in 1620 in Zacatecas New Spain and died in
Oct. 1682 in
> Zacatecas New Spain. He met Single Woman Unknown.
> Who was the Mother of Francisco?
> Who was in the household?
> Francisco Montes Vigil was born in 1666 in El Real de Zacatecas, New Spain
and died on
> Sep. 11, 1730 in Santa Cruz Santa Fe New Mexico.
> Maria Vigil [Jimenez de Ancizo] was born in 1668 ? in El Real Zacatecas
Married
> Francisco Montes Vigil 1682 or 1683? in Zacatecas New Spain. Nov.
> 19, 1745 in Santa Cruz de la Canada New Mexico
> Father? Would like to know more about Jimenez de Ancizo family
> Mother?
> children born to Francisco and Maria in Zacatecas
> Domingo Montes Vigil 1693 Augas Calientes, Zacatecas
> Maria De La Concepcion 1684
> Were there any other family members or household who traveled with
them to New
> Mexico?
> Children born in Santa Cruz de la Canada New Mexico:
> Pedro Policarpio Montes 1687
> Manuel Montes 1701
> Francisco Montes II 1702
> Gertrudis Montes Vigil 1704
> Juan Montes iv
> Eloena
>
>
> Thank you very much for your assistance! We are very excited to learn more
about our
> family!
>
> Regards,
> Tricia Carrillo, PMP
> 949 6831776
> triciac@cox.net
>
>
Montes y Vigil
Joseph and Tricia:
This is my grandmother´s line she was born in Albuquerque, New Mexico in 1929, but was grew up in the San Francisco/Oakland area during the 40-50s. She descends from Francisco Montes de Vigil son of Capt. Francisco Montes de Vigil and María Jiménez de Ancizo, the couple before mentioned. Through their son, Francisco Montes y Vigil who married Lorenza Quintana de Molina Medina married on 28 June 1744 in Santa Fe, New Mexico. Through sucession, this line would later marry into Lucero de Godoy, Romero and Chávez y Durán, whom my grandmother descends.
Everyone probably already knows the following, but it never gets too old, One word of caution with FamilySearch Pedigree Resource File, never take it to be the last deciding voice. It seems people like to publish facts without supporting records on certain ocassions. I have found on numerous ocasions errors to these so-called genealogies in which I had to correct and even reconstruct entire genealogical trees. Always support facts with records, the Montes y Vigil famiy is rich in records, familysearch, microfilm, PARES, and various instituitions in Mexico City, Valladolid, Madrid and so on. Various authors have also published numerous articles and books on the New Mexico families that can be of use. I have not followed this line with much attention, but every now and then I get a spark of interest.
The house of Santillana is definately linked to this family, for Montes de Vigil were from Asturias and Santillana was established in this principality and in the nearby Cantabria area at the end of XIV century. From here the family would spread over the Iberian peninsula and the New World.
For example, the 1611 crossing of Juan Montes de Vigil to the new world is compromised of 24 pages, a certain portion was extracted to appear in the search results. How many have read all 24 pages? I know I have finished reading all 24. Through this and other important records, especially the Ejuecutorias de Hidalguía (Proof of Nobility) the earliest we find registered is 24 Nov 1587 in Valladolid, where Pedro Montes Vigil executes before the Chancillery. A quick overview would easily set the Vigil family a family of the Asturian nobility. The name is a bit older than we think it appears somewhere at the end of XV and XVI centuries. Someone compounded this surname, but who? From what I have researched Vigil is the main trunk of the family. It splits into three branches, Montes Vigil, Vigil and de Vigil Quinoñes. Montes Vigil was probably a result of a female member of the Vigil family marrying a man of "lower status" as to hidalguía, and therefore was to continue to carry on the Vigil surname, a very common trait during this period of research and especially place.
If we were to study the ejecutorias de Hidalguía we would find out that Juan Montes de Vigil married Catalina de Santillana Herrera, (Catalina has nothing to do with Vigil) researchers have attached the Vigil to her. I have not identified her parents, since the ejecutoria only applies to the male line, this is her husband. Juan II would be son of Juan Montes de Vigil and María de Vigil. Juan would be grandson of Lucas Montes de Vigil and Isabel de Vigil and Francisco de Vigil and Catalina de Arguelles y Quinoñes, this last couple being the founders of the surname Vigil y Quinoñes. If we notice, Juan Montes de Vigil has three lines of Vigil, which is very common in this period in Cantabria-Asturias. These families were very old and reknown, mostly descendants of the original Christian warriors from the VIII-X centuries.
The Vigil family was very well established since the XV century, they had proved their lineage, their hidalguía (which is different from those who inherit titles), hidalgos are nobles by birth through their paternal line, on the contrary those titled must depend on titles of their ancestors. They held various postitions in government, notably regidor del consejo, which was strictly for hijosdalgos during the XVI-XVIII centuries. Many descendants entered into various orders of knighthood, Santiago, Calatrava, etc. There is much research to do with this family.
Genealogy is not just a hobby, though it may start out as one. It is a rigorous inestigation process, reports to be complied, records to be archived, books to be purchased, read, analyzed and reported. Deductions based on reason, facts, and many other types of records: wills, land grants, journals, passages, limpeza de sangre, ejecutoria de higalguía, probanza de nobleza. Baptismal, Marriages and Deaths from the Catholic Church are the basic, and very least of records. There are many archives to be accessed. In my family´s home we have an entire room dedicated to genealogy, our archive is enormous, last time I counted it had at least 50 boxes worth of records, each registered and filed, each box with at least 1200 records of some sort. My grandfather initialized this great work. I am now obtaining digitzalied records of everything to store in case of a distaster. For us Latter-day Saints genealogy is much more. It truly is a work and requires dedication and study and research. But it´s very fulfilling to know who we are and where we come from and where were going.
These are my few lines, now that I have seen I have prolonged this reponse, I hope this helps in some way.
Daniel Méndez de Torres Camino
Montes y Vigil
well written Daniel..
Linda
________________________________
From: Daniel Mendez de Torres Camino
To: Nuestros Ranchos
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Montes y Vigil
Joseph and Tricia:
This is my grandmother´s line she was born in Albuquerque, New Mexico in 1929, but was grew up in the San Francisco/Oakland area during the 40-50s. She descends from Francisco Montes de Vigil son of Capt. Francisco Montes de Vigil and María Jiménez de Ancizo, the couple before mentioned. Through their son, Francisco Montes y Vigil who married Lorenza Quintana de Molina Medina married on 28 June 1744 in Santa Fe, New Mexico. Through sucession, this line would later marry into Lucero de Godoy, Romero and Chávez y Durán, whom my grandmother descends.
Everyone probably already knows the following, but it never gets too old, One word of caution with FamilySearch Pedigree Resource File, never take it to be the last deciding voice. It seems people like to publish facts without supporting records on certain ocassions. I have found on numerous ocasions errors to these so-called genealogies in which I had to correct and even reconstruct entire genealogical trees. Always support facts with records, the Montes y Vigil famiy is rich in records, familysearch, microfilm, PARES, and various instituitions in Mexico City, Valladolid, Madrid and so on. Various authors have also published numerous articles and books on the New Mexico families that can be of use. I have not followed this line with much attention, but every now and then I get a spark of interest.
The house of Santillana is definately linked to this family, for Montes de Vigil were from Asturias and Santillana was established in this principality and in the nearby Cantabria area at the end of XIV century. From here the family would spread over the Iberian peninsula and the New World.
For example, the 1611 crossing of Juan Montes de Vigil to the new world is compromised of 24 pages, a certain portion was extracted to appear in the search results. How many have read all 24 pages? I know I have finished reading all 24. Through this and other important records, especially the Ejuecutorias de Hidalguía (Proof of Nobility) the earliest we find registered is 24 Nov 1587 in Valladolid, where Pedro Montes Vigil executes before the Chancillery. A quick overview would easily set the Vigil family a family of the Asturian nobility. The name is a bit older than we think it appears somewhere at the end of XV and XVI centuries. Someone compounded this surname, but who? From what I have researched Vigil is the main trunk of the family. It splits into three branches, Montes Vigil, Vigil and de Vigil Quinoñes. Montes Vigil was probably a result of a female member of the Vigil family marrying a man of "lower status" as to hidalguía, and therefore was
to continue to carry on the Vigil surname, a very common trait during this period of research and especially place.
If we were to study the ejecutorias de Hidalguía we would find out that Juan Montes de Vigil married Catalina de Santillana Herrera, (Catalina has nothing to do with Vigil) researchers have attached the Vigil to her. I have not identified her parents, since the ejecutoria only applies to the male line, this is her husband. Juan II would be son of Juan Montes de Vigil and María de Vigil. Juan would be grandson of Lucas Montes de Vigil and Isabel de Vigil and Francisco de Vigil and Catalina de Arguelles y Quinoñes, this last couple being the founders of the surname Vigil y Quinoñes. If we notice, Juan Montes de Vigil has three lines of Vigil, which is very common in this period in Cantabria-Asturias. These families were very old and reknown, mostly descendants of the original Christian warriors from the VIII-X centuries.
The Vigil family was very well established since the XV century, they had proved their lineage, their hidalguía (which is different from those who inherit titles), hidalgos are nobles by birth through their paternal line, on the contrary those titled must depend on titles of their ancestors. They held various postitions in government, notably regidor del consejo, which was strictly for hijosdalgos during the XVI-XVIII centuries. Many descendants entered into various orders of knighthood, Santiago, Calatrava, etc. There is much research to do with this family.
Genealogy is not just a hobby, though it may start out as one. It is a rigorous inestigation process, reports to be complied, records to be archived, books to be purchased, read, analyzed and reported. Deductions based on reason, facts, and many other types of records: wills, land grants, journals, passages, limpeza de sangre, ejecutoria de higalguía, probanza de nobleza. Baptismal, Marriages and Deaths from the Catholic Church are the basic, and very least of records. There are many archives to be accessed. In my family´s home we have an entire room dedicated to genealogy, our archive is enormous, last time I counted it had at least 50 boxes worth of records, each registered and filed, each box with at least 1200 records of some sort. My grandfather initialized this great work. I am now obtaining digitzalied records of everything to store in case of a distaster. For us Latter-day Saints genealogy is much more. It truly is a work and requires
dedication and study and research. But it´s very fulfilling to know who we are and where we come from and where were going.
These are my few lines, now that I have seen I have prolonged this reponse, I hope this helps in some way.
Daniel Méndez de Torres Camino