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Tengo una duda sobre la identidad de Joseph de Santana a finales del siglo XVII y principios del XVIII.
1)Alguien tiene el acta de matrimonio de Joseph de Santana con Juana Bueso?
Creo que ella es Juana Lopes-Bueso, hija de Nicolás Lopes-Bueso y de Nicolasa Guerrero y Ocón. Pero no he podido probarlo, porque no he encontrado su acta de matrimnio.

2)Asimismo, en 1719 tengo a un Joseph de Santana que casó en Tuxcacuesco con Efigenia de Zambrano. En su acta matrimonial dice que es viudo de Maria Gonzalez-Corona. Pienso yo que éstos dos Josephs de Santana son la misma persona. Pero tampoco he podido el matrimonio en Tecolotlán pues faltan fechas y los documentos en Tuxcacuesco están revueltos.
Alguien tiene el acta de Joseph y Maria?

3)Por último ha y un Capt. Joseph the Santana como testigo de varios bautismos en Autlán alrededor de 1700.

Muchas gracias!

Sergio Salés

English:
I have a question about the identity of Joseph de Santana at the end of the 17th century and beginning of the 18th.
1)Does anyone have the marriage certificate for Joseph de Santana's marriage to Juana Bueso? I am almost positive she is Juana Lopes-Bueso, daughter of Nicolas Lopes-Bueso and Nicolasa Guerrero y Ocón, but I can't prove it yet.

2) In 1719 a Joseph de Santana married Efigenia de Zambrano in Tuxcacuesco. It says he is a widower of Maria Gonzalez-Corona. I think these two Josephs are the same person does anyone have his marriage to Maria Gonzalez-Corona?

3) Lastly, I also have a Capt. Joseph de Santana as a witness at several baptisms around 1700 in Autlan.

Thanks!

Hello Sergio,

The two Joseph de Santana's you speak of are not the same person. The first Joseph you speak of that is married to Juana Lopes Bueso is my 9th GreatGrandfather and I have recently been working on that line. I found a death record for that Joseph that states he died in Tecolotlan on 25 November 1717 and was indeed married to Juana Lopes Bueso.
They were the parents of the 2nd Joseph de Santana you speak of that was married to Maria Gonzalez Corona. You are right he married a 2nd time with Efigenia de Zambrano in 1719 and married again in 1724 to Efigena Garcia de Alba. He died in Ejutla on 24 September 1747. I could not find a marriage record for Maria Corona, but here is a link to the marriage record with Efigenia Garcia de Alba:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18715-10103-83?cc=1874591&wc….

Also you'll find a genealogical tree in the Diocesis of Guadalajara, Marriage Dispensas that shows Joseph Santana was the son of Juana Huezo who was the daughter of Nicolas Huezo. Here is that link:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18414-37063-10?cc=1874591&wc…

I don't know about the Captain though.

Hope that helps!

Juan J

Thanks Juan!

That was extremely helpful! Clearly they are not the same person, since the fisrt died in 1717 and the second was getting married in 1719 and 1724.

My only question is whether you have a document that proves that the second Joseph de Santana is the son of the first?

Thanks!

Sergio Salés

Never mind, the dispensa was sufficient, since it showed Jose de Santana as son of Juana Bueso, and thus with the last name it can be safely deduced that he was indeed the son of Joseph de Santana and Juana Lopes Bueso.

Thanks again!

Sergio Salés

hola,
Me acabo de encontrar con una partida matrimonial que no dice "case y vele", tiene tachado esa parte del machote y dice "tomo de manos".

Alguien se ha encontrado con estos?, sabe que quiere decir?

Mil Gracias por su ayuda

La verdad no sé que quiera decir. Sé qu es costumbre durante las ceremonias de bodas que los novios se tomen las manos cuando van a intercambiar anillos. Fuera de eso es pura conjetura pero puede ser que haya sido una ceremonia de bodas distinta a la tradicional.

Sergio Salés

Lo único que tengo es el acta de matrimonio de Antonio Santana Gomez, hijo de Antonio Santana Lopez Bueso y Feliciana Gomez
Casado con Mariana Peña Castillo el 11 de febrero de 1730 en Tecolotlán

Espero te sirva la referencia...

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