Victoriana Martinez was a widow of 16 years. Her late husband was Don Pedro Yanos Valdez. she is originally from La Mesa de Fraile and a resident of Juanacati. No parents are mentioned. only Godparents Loreto Velasco and Dona Maria Polonia Palatoz

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> My paternal great grandmother was Maria Ysabel Caballero, baptised 16Dec1860 in Totatiche, Jalisco. Daughter of Tranquilino Caballero y Maria Juliana de la Trinidad Avila
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> source:
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> I have now found another child of Tranquilino Caballero y Trinidad D'abila, baptised on 01Mar1864 in Tlaltenango de Sanchez Ramon, Zacatecas.
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> This record indicates Ysabel was a male child. Was this name actually used for both sexes? Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
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> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Translation help please....re: Victoriana
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> My 4th great grandparents' marriage record:
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> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18724-61739-21?cc=1874591&wc…
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> Juaquin Choperena y Victoriana Martinez were married on 16Sept1801.
> I believe Juaquin was born in Navarra, Spain to Pedro Jose Choperena y Maria Bautista Yndart about 1771.
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> However, I'm having trouble figuring out the birthplace and parents of Victoriana.
> Was she born in Spain or Juanacati? Was her father a 16-year old neighbor?
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> I'd appreciate any help.
> Thanks,
> Roy
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> Thank you Victoriano...I have added another great grand uncle to my tree.
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