Hello Gracie,

My paternal great-grandmother was also a Villalobos from Lagos de Moreno.
Who was your great-grandmother?

Do you have the marriage info for Juana Pedrosa y Josef Robalcava? How do
you know that this Juana Pedrosa was the one b. 8 June 1692?

There was only one Maria de la Cruz that married a Santiago de Pedrosa.
Maria de la Cruz and Maria de la Cruz Martin del Campo Isassi are actually
the same person.

What I have for the parents of María de la Cruz Martín del Campo Isassi is
from the website of Javier Sanchiz Ruiz and his source of information is
from Juan Francisco Javier Salceda Andrade who is a friend of Mariano
González Leal and Mary Lou Montagna. They are all serious genealogists. He
was also friends with the late Jaime Holcombe Isunza who was also a serious
genealogist.

The website is
http://gw.geneanet.org/sanchiz?lang=es;p=maria+de+la+cruz;n=martin+del+…

Her parents are shown to be Nicolas Martin del Campo Lopez de la Cruz and
Sebastiana Isassi Cuevas.

I am not sure where Juan Francisco Javier Salceda Andrade got his
information for her parents but since we don't have anything to refute it I
consider it correct until I can find otherwise.

I know that the father of Santiago de Pedrosa was Marcos de Pedrosa thanks
to the following dispensa

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18402-45178-87?cc=1874591&wc…

What helps prove it is that the sister of Santiago de Pedrosa named
Catalina de Pedrosa alias Catalina de Nava is mentioned as being the
daughter of Marcos de Pedrosa and Maria de Nava in her marriage record.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18567-41841-29?cc=1874591&wc…

Since Santiago and Catalina are siblings and the parents of Catalina
were Marcos de Pedrosa and Maria de Nava and both Santiago and Catalina are
shown to be the children of Marcos de Pedrosa in the dispensa therefore we
can now concentrate on Marcos de Pedrosa.

We know that Marcos de Pedrosa was the son of Santiago de Pedrosa and Juana
Bautista de Alba because of his marriage record to María de Nava who was
the daughter of Tomás de Villalobos and Catarina Macias

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18684-24784-65?cc=1874591&wc…

Now we know that the Santiago that married Maria de la Cruz Martin del
Campo Isassi was the grandson of the Santiago that married Juana Bautista
de Alba.

Saludos,
Armando

On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 8:05 PM, wrote:

> Please excuse me if I am posting incorrectly, as this is my first time
> posting here.
>
> My name is Gracie Morales and I am researching my great-grandmother's side
> of the family (Her mother is Villalobos). So far, things have gone
> relatively smooth...but then I hit a bump in the road and I cannot seem to
> find my way through the forest. I am beyond confused and looking at my
> information only frustrates me.
>
> Here is what I have:
>
> Ygnacio Robalcava:
> B: 8 Apr 1731 in San Juan de Los Lagos, Jalisco. Hijo de: Juana Pedrosa
> y Josef Robalcava. Ygnacio died 12 Feb. 1785 and was married to Francisca
> Teodora de Abila (B. 4 Apr 1733 in Aguascalientes).
> Juana Pedrosa:
> B. 8 June 1692 in Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco. Hija de: Maria de la Cruz y
> Santiago Pedrosa de Nava (B. 22 Jul 1668). Juana married Josef Robalcava on
> 17 Aug 1707 in Jalisco. Josef's parents are Juana de Mendoza y Manuel de
> Robalcava (B. 1 Sep 1660).
>
> Ok, I am PRETTY SURE this much is correct (but I'm always checking). This
> is where things are falling apart on me.
> Maria de La Cruz: I found something, somewhere online that said Maria de
> La Cruz is the daughter of Catarina Macias Valadez y Villegas and Tomas de
> Villalobos y Perez de Nava (B: 22 Feb 1604). BUT... her husband, Santiago
> Pedrosa de Nava (B: 22 Jul 1668) has his parents Cpt. Marcos de Pedrosa y
> Alba and Maria Isabel de Nava (M. 1656 or 1657, not sure yet). Maria Isabel
> de Nava's parents are Catarina Macias Valadez y Villegas and Tomas de
> Villalobos y Perez de Nava (B. 22 Feb 1604). If true, Santiago married his
> aunt? I cannot remember where I got the information about Maria de la
> Cruz's parents so it's something I cannot cite and is only penciled in
> until I can say for sure.
>
> Also, some clarification on all the Santiago Pedrosa's would be nice. From
> what I understand: Santiago Pedrosa married Juana Bautista de Alba y
> Retamosa. They had two sons: Marcos and Nicolas. Both sons had sons, each
> named Santiago Pedrosa. Marcos's Santiago married Maria de la Cruz.
> Nicolas's son Santiago married Juana de Acosta. THEN there's a Santiago who
> married Maria de la Cruz Martin del Campo Isassi... is this my relation?
> Her parents are Nicolas Martin del Campo Lopez de la Cruz and Sebastiana
> Isassi Cuevas. If so, my original assertion that Santiago married his aunt
> is wrong.
> I am all over the board on this and I cannot move until I get it resolved.
> I have only decided to post here because I am only going around in circles
> and am not able to figure it out on my own. I don't know how else to
> untangle my mess without help. Please help me... if you can. I tried to
> include as much as I could without being overwhelming. Let me know if there
> is something I can change. Thank you for your help!