Mi familia es de Femat de Aguascalientes y uno de mi bisabuelos Antonio Fermin Femat se caso con Monica Vivar de Romo 16 Oct. 1715 en Aguascalientes.  Los papas de ella Mariana or Maria Ana Villalobos y Nicolas Romo de Vivar y se casaron 31 Dec 1685 en Asuscion,, Aguascalientes,  No entiendo Maria Ana y Mariana Villalobos son dos personas?   Los papas de Nicolas eran Diego Vivar de Romo y Maria de los Angeles Reyes?  Me puede ayudar con estas preguntas?  Helen Fisher

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   1. Re: Leonor Guti?rrez de la Vega (xalos68@hotmail.com)
   2. Gracias por las aclaraciones...y algo sobre los G?mez Rend?n.
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Hay documentacion que diga que Maria Rubio, esposa de Pedro Hern?ndez, fue hija de Francisco Gutierrez Rubio y Ana Gonzalez Floridad?

Sergio Gutierrez

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Primeramente, gracias por indicarme el error sobre la ascendencia de Nicol?s Romo de Vivar, casado con mi t?a Mar?a Antonia del Carmen Gonz?lez de Hermosillo y G?mez Rend?n.  Es algo enredoso distinguir cuales hijos corresponden a cada una de las dos parejas con nombres tan parecidos, Nicol?s Romo de Vivar y Mar?a de Villalobos y Nicol?s Romo de Vivar y Mariana de Villalobos.  Con estas similitudes se confundir?a cualquiera.  ?De veras que enredo!  Por eso gracias a ti, Armando, a tus valorables investigaciones, y las de Bill Figueroa y todos, sobre este linaje.  Yo NO soy ning?n experto sobre estos linajes?Uds. s? lo son. Ahora ya, poco a poco, estoy desenredando y arreglando los errores provocados por esta situaci?n complicada.

[Pr?ximamente, les preguntar? sobre DIEGO Romo de Vivar y MARIANA de Villalobos.  Ellos son efectivamente una pareja distinta con nombres distintos viviendo en lugares distintos a los matrimonios de los otros dos Nicol?s Romo de Vivar, y sus respectivas esposas Villalobos.  Desde 1709-1710 m?s o menos hasta 1729, Diego y Mariana tuvieron por lo menos 7 hijos en Teocaltiche/San Juan de los Lagos/Jalostotitl?n. Sus descendientes se avecindaron en San Juan de los Lagos y Jalostotitl?n.  No logro vincularlos.  Se los dejo de tarea?]
Obviamente, toda la genealog?a de Los Altos de Jalisco es nuestra genealog?a?la compartimos todos, y est? basada tanto en nuestros propios esfuerzos, como en los trabajos de los que nos han ayudado y los que nos han antecedido?los logros tanto como los errores.  Est?n los trabajos de Jaime Holcombe y Mariano Gonz?lez como punto de partida para todos.  En cuanto salieron sus trabajos geneal?gicos, comenz? la ?Cacer?a de Ratas [Cacer?a de Erratas]? como me dijo Don Mariano una vez en broma, refiri?ndose a la encuentra de errores.  Todos cometemos errores, y todos los hemos hecho en nuestras notas.  Pero hacemos lo mejor que podemos, esperando que con el tiempo alguien nos ayude a aclarar las cosas.  Gracias.

Regresando al tema de los Gonz?lez de Hermosillo de Teocaltiche/Ayo el Chico/Arandas, parece que por la coincidencia de personajes y lugares que se han manifestado, estamos de acuerdo que Don Juan Antonio Gonz?lez de Hermosillo, el que cas? con Gertrudis G?mez Rend?n, ?tuvo que ser? nieto de Diego Alonso Ram?rez de Hermosillo y Luisa Mu?oz de Nava.  Las posibilidades se han quedado en que:

Opci?n A)  Juan Antonio era hijo de Melchor Gonz?lez de Hermosillo y Mar?a Rangel, cuyo nombre "real" era Mar?a Tiscare?o Romo de Vivar, hija de Juan Tiscare?o de Molina y de Isabel Romo de Vivar, nieta de Lorenza Ru?z de Esparza y Luis Tiscare?o de Molina.  
Opci?n B)   Juan Antonio era hijo de Juan Gonz?lez de Hermosillo y de Antonia ?lvarez Tostado y Luna.  Me pregunto yo? ?Qu? tal si le pusieron Juan por su padre y Antonio por su madre?  Solo una pregunta que me hice.
Opci?n C) Juan Antonio era hijo de Francisco Mu?oz de Hermosillo y de Margarita de Tiscare?o, varios de sus hijos y descendientes utilizaron el apellido Gonz?lez de Hermosillo y de avecindaron principalmente en Aguascalientes.
Opci?n D)  Juan Antonio era hijo de Andr?s Mu?oz de Hermosillo y de Lorenza Tiscare?o, hermana entera de Mar?a, hijas las dos de Juan Tiscare?o de Molina y de Isabel Romo de Vivar.  Varios de sus hijos y descendientes utilizaron el apellido Gonz?lez de Hermosillo y de avecindaron principalmente en Aguascalientes.

Tristemente, por m?s que quisiera, no tengo el v?nculo con Juan-Antonio verificado, ni el de su esposa Gertrudis.  Por eso estoy aqu??sacando mis SOSPECHAS y OPINIONES al aire libre para ver qu? opinan al respecto.
Juan Antonio puede ser hijo de una de estas parejas aunque todas ya ten?an un hijo llamado Juan, el que buscamos se llamaba Juan-Antonio, y es posible que hayan tenido un Juan y un Juan-Antonio por hijos.  He visto casos donde hab?a hermanos con nombres muy parecidos (uno llamado Juan a secas, otro Juan-Joseph, otro Juan-Manuel, otro Juan-Antonio, etc.), cosa que claro complica nuestro caso aqu?.  Es m?s probable que Juan-Antonio sea hijo de Juan Gonz?lez de Hermosillo y Antonia ?lvarez Tostado y Luna, ya que tambi?n por esta familia puede existir otro v?nculo?por lo ?lvarez Tostado y Luna.

Como sabemos Juan Antonio Gonz?lez de Hermosillo se cas? con Gertrudis G?mez Rend?n.  El apellido G?mez Rend?n es algo inusual en Teocaltiche, y seg?n lo que he visto, parece indicar que hab?an venido de San Luis Potos? o Guanajuato, y algunos se pasaron a Zacatecas y a Nuevo Le?n.  Yo sospecho que  Gertrudis G?mez Rend?n fue hija de Francisco G?mez Rend?n y Mar?a ?lvarez Tostado y Luna, pero para esto cierto existe la posibilidad que Juan Antonio Gonz?lez de Hermosillo y Gertrudis G?mez Rend?n eran parientes.  Eso a?n queda por verse?si es que llega a ser verdad.  Hasta el momento esto es lo que tengo sobre los posibles padres de Gertrudis, Francisco G?mez Rend?n y Mar?a ?lvarez Tostado y Luna, y su familia:

Francisco G?mez Rend?n        Naci?: ca. 1647 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico                        
Padre: Francisco G?mez Rend?n         Madre: Catarina de Arriola
..                +Mar?a ?lvarez Tostado y Luna        Naci?: ca. 1662 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico                Celebr? nupcias: ca. 1680 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico        
Padre: Marcos ?lvarez Tostado        Madre: Mar?a de Luna

1.         Juana G?mez Rend?n        Naci?: 1 Jul 1682 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico                                
2.         Nicolasa G?mez Rend?n        Naci?: 13 Oct 1684 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico                
3.         Mar?a G?mez Rend?n        Naci?: 20 Jul 1687 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico                
.....                +Lucas de Gaona        Naci?: ca. 1685 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico                Celebr? nupcias: ca. 1710 in Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, M?xico                
4.         Francisca G?mez Rend?n        Naci?: 18 Nov 1689 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico                
.....        +Francisco P?rez Maldonado        Naci?: 1686 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico                Celebr? nupcias: 1711 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico        Dispensa Matrimonial: 15 Abr 1711, Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico.  Fueron dispensados de un parentesco de consanguinidad en cuarto grado igual.
Padre: Luis P?rez Maldonado        Madre: Gertrudis Mor?n de Ledesma
5.         Juana G?mez Rend?n        Naci?: ca. 1695 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico                                
6.         Gertrudis G?mez Rend?n        Naci?: ca. 1699 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico                        
.....                +Juan-Antonio Gonz?lez de Hermosillo        Naci?: ca. 1695 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico                Celebr? nupcias: Antes de Sep 1724 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico        
Padre: N. Gonz?lez de Hermosillo        

La hija #4, Francisca G?mez Rend?n, recibi? dispensa matrimonial, al casarse con Francisco P?rez Maldonado.   La dispensa, con fecha de 15 de abril de 1711, indica que ten?an un parentesco de consanguinidad en cuarto grado igual del cual fueron dispensados.  Esta dispensa aparece en el libro ?Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara Antiguo Obispado de la Nueva Galicia?? por Mar?a de la Luz Montejano Hilton (M?xico, D.F. : 1999), p?gina 177, No. 971. Y tambi?n en https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18403-11648-76?cc=1874591&wc…
Tu parentesco se resume as?:

. . . . . . . . . . . . . [Antonio de Ibarra = Mar?a Escobar]
. . . . . . . .  Antonio de Ibarra . . . . 1 . . . . . Catarina de Ibarra
. . . . . . . . . .Mar?a de Ibarra . . . . . 2 . . . . . Catarina de Arriola
Gertrudis Mor?n de Ledesma . . . 3 . . . Francisco G?mez Rend?n
. .Francisco P?rez Maldonado . . . 4 . . . Francisca G?mez Rend?n
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (?Hermana de Gertrudis G?mez Rend?n?)
Fuente original - Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic Church Records, 1590-1979, Guadalajara, Di?cesis de Guadalajara, Matrimonios 1653-1829   [Images 447-453 of 625].
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18403-11648-76?cc=1874591&wc…

Mariano Gonz?lez Leal a?ade en sus notas sobre esta familia en el Cap?tulo ?Gonz?lez de Hermosillo? en ?Reto?os de Espa?a en la Nueva Galicia?.  Menciona que??Gracias a don Francisco Javier de Casta?os y Ca?edo se conocen otras referencias, por ahora inconexas, de la familia G?mez-Rend?n:  En 1642, hizo su informaci?n para ingresar al Real Colegio de San Ildefonso de M?jico, el Licenciado y Presb?tero Pedro Guti?rrez Rangel, originario de la Villa de San Miguel el Grande y vecino de Valladolid. Manifest? ser hijo del Regidor Melchor Guti?rrez, soldado en la conquista de Nuevo M?jico con el Gobernador Juan de O?ate, Teniente de Justicia Mayor en Nueva Vizcaya;  Regidor  de  Valladolid  y  de  P?tzcuaro,  y  de  su esposa do?a Isabel de los Olivos.- Agreg? el promoviente que su abuelo ?no precisa si paterno o materno- fue ?Pedro G?mez Rend?n, hijodalgo conforme a la Executoria Real de su Nobleza, en la Chanciller?a de Granada...? (Casta
 ?os y Ca?edo: Aspirantes al Real Colegio Mayor de San Ildefonso, de M?jico, p?gs. 26 ? 27).?  

Y como resumen de f?cil consulta, tengan aqu? la s?ntesis de mis investigaciones sobre la ascendencia de Gertrudis G?mez Rend?n.  Disculpen que est? en ingl?s?

Antepasados de Gertrudis G?mez Rend?n

Generation No. 1

        1.  Gertrudis G?mez Rend?n, born ca. 1699 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Feb 1748 - Jun 1750 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico.  She was the daughter of 2. Francisco G?mez Rend?n and 3. Mar?a Alvarez Tostado y Luna.  She married (1) Juan-Antonio Gonz?lez de Hermosillo Bef. Sep 1724 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico.  He was born ca. 1695 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico, and died Aft. 10 Jun 1750 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico.  He was the son of N. Gonz?lez de Hermosillo.

Generation No. 2

        2.  Francisco G?mez Rend?n, born ca. 1647 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown.  He was the son of 4. Francisco G?mez Rend?n and 5. Catarina de Arriola.  He married 3. Mar?a Alvarez Tostado y Luna ca. 1680 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico.
        3.  Mar?a Alvarez Tostado y Luna, born ca. 1662 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown.  She was the daughter of 6. Marcos Alvarez Tostado and 7. Mar?a de Luna.

Notes for Mar?a Alvarez Tostado y Luna:
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MARIA ALVAREZ DE LUNA  
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 Birth:  About 1670   Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico
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  Father:  MARCOS ALVAREZ TOSTADO  Family
  Mother:  MARIA DE LUNA
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Children of Francisco G?mez Rend?n and Mar?a Alvarez Tostado y Luna are:
                i.        Juana G?mez Rend?n, born 1 Jul 1682 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown.
                ii.        Nicolasa G?mez Rend?n, born 13 Oct 1684 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown.
                iii.        Mar?a G?mez Rend?n, born 20 Jul 1687 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown; married Lucas de Gaona ca. 1710 in Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, M?xico; born ca. 1685 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown.
                iv.        Francisca G?mez Rend?n, born 18 Nov 1689 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown; married Francisco P?rez Maldonado 1711 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; born 1686 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown.

Marriage Notes for Francisca G?mez Rend?n and Francisco P?rez Maldonado:
. . . . . . . . . . . . .Antonio de Ibarra = Mar?a Escobar
. . . . . . . .  Antonio de Ibarra . . . . 1 . . . . . Catarina de Ibarra
. . . . . . . . . .Mar?a de Ibarra . . . . . 2 . . . . . Catarina de Arriola
Gertrudis Mor?n de Ledesma . . . 3 . . . Francisco G?mez Rend?n
. .Francisco P?rez Maldonado . . . 4 . . . Francisca G?mez Rend?n

                v.        Juana G?mez Rend?n, born ca. 1695 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Aft. 20 Nov 1720 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico.
        1        vi.        Gertrudis G?mez Rend?n, born ca. 1699 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Feb 1748 - Jun 1750 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; married Juan-Antonio Gonz?lez de Hermosillo Bef. Sep 1724 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico.

Generation No. 3

        4.  Francisco G?mez Rend?n, born ca. 1623 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Bef. 1660 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico.  He married 5. Catarina de Arriola ca. 1646 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico.
        5.  Catarina de Arriola, born ca. 1630 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown.  She was the daughter of 10. Andr?s de Arriola and 11. Catarina de Ibarra.
        
Child of Francisco G?mez Rend?n and Catarina Arriola is:
        2        i.        Francisco G?mez Rend?n, born ca. 1647 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown; married Mar?a Alvarez Tostado y Luna ca. 1680 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico.

        6.  Marcos Alvarez Tostado, born ca. 1631 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown.  He was the son of 12. Juan Alvarez y Vieira and 13. Beatriz Tostado.  He married 7. Mar?a de Luna ca. 1657 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico.
        7.  Mar?a de Luna, born ca. 1635 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown.  She was the daughter of 14. Antonio de Luna and 15. Antonia Tejeda.

Marriage Notes for Marcos Alvarez Tostado and Mar?a Luna:
They appear mentioned in the following marriages:  

17 Oct 1658        Jacinto Lopez married Isabel Ramirez.  Padrinos: Marcos Alvarez/Maria Luna.
1 Jul 1663        Geronimo de Orozco married Petronila Alvarez Tostado.  
Padrinos: Marcos de Alvarez and Maria de Luna.

21 Oct 1663        Juan de Ibarra married Tomasa Ruiz.  
Padrinos: Marcos Alvarez/Maria de Luna.
8 April 1668        Pedro Chaves married Isabel de Pangua.  
Padrinos: Marcos Alvarez and Maria de Luna.
10 Feb 1668        Francisco married Leonor Carrillo Lopez.  
Padrinos: Marcos Alvarez and Maria de Luna, su mujer.  Diego/Maria.

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MARCOS ALVAREZ TOSTADO  
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Event(s):
 Birth:  About 1631
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  Father:  JUAN ALVAREZ  Family
  Mother:  BEATRIZ TOSTADO
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MARIA DE LUNA  
  Female   Family
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Event(s):
 Birth:  About 1635
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Parents:
  Father:  ANTONIO DE LUNA  Family
  Mother:  ANTONIA TEJEDA
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  Marriage:  About 1657   Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico
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Children of Marcos Alvarez Tostado and Mar?a Luna are:
                i.        Antonia Alvarez de Luna, born ca. 1658 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown; married Juan Gonz?lez de Hermosillo ca. 1674 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; born ca. 1648 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown.

Notes for Antonia Alvarez de Luna:
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ANTONIA ALVAREZ DE LUNA  
  Female   Family
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Event(s):
 Birth:  About 1658   Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico
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Parents:
  Father:  MARCOS ALVAREZ TOSTADO  Family
  Mother:  MARIA DE LUNA
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Marriages:
 Spouse:  Unavailable  Family
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Marriage Notes for Antonia Alvarez de Luna and Juan Gonz?lez de Hermosillo:
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JUAN Gonz?lez DE HERMOSILLO  
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 Birth:  About 1649
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Parents:
  Father:  DIEGO ALONSO RAMIREZ DE HERMOSILLO  Family
  Mother:  LUISA MUNOZ DE NAVA
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ANTONIA ALVAREZ DE LUNA  
  Female   Family
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Event(s):
 Birth:  About 1658
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Parents:
  Father:  MARCOS ALVAREZ TOSTADO  Family
  Mother:  MARIA DE LUNA  
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  Marriage:  About 1674   Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico
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                ii.        Beatriz Alvarez de Luna, born ca. 1660 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown.

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BEATRIZ ALVAREZ DE LUNA  
  Female    
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 Birth:  About 1661   Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico
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  Father:  MARCOS ALVAREZ TOSTADO  Family
  Mother:  MARIA DE LUNA
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        3        iii.        Mar?a Alvarez Tostado y Luna, born ca. 1662 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown; married Francisco G?mez Rend?n ca. 1680 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico.
                iv.        Antonio Alvarez de Luna, born ca. 1664 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown.

Notes for Antonio Alvarez de Luna:
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ANTONIO ALVAREZ DE LUNA  
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Event(s):
 Birth:  About 1664   Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico
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Parents:
  Father:  MARCOS ALVAREZ TOSTADO  Family
  Mother:  MARIA DE LUNA
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 Batch Number:  F868024    
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                v.        Mat?as Alvarez de Luna, born ca. 1667 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown.

Notes for Mat?as Alvarez de Luna:
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MATIAS ALVAREZ DE LUNA  
  Male    
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Event(s):
 Birth:  About 1667   Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico
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Parents:
  Father:  MARCOS ALVAREZ TOSTADO  Family
  Mother:  MARIA DE LUNA    
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 Family group record submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The record includes the submitter's name and address and names and relationships of family members. The address may be outdated. Some information is estimated. To find the record on the film, you must know the batch and sheet number.  
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Source Information:
 Batch Number:  F868024    
 Sheet:  009    
 Source Call No.:  1396255   Type:  Film
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                vi.        Francisca Alvarez de Luna, born 13 Nov 1672 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Bef. 3 Mar 1714 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; married Alejandro S?nchez de Porras ca. 1690 in Cuqu?o, Jalisco, M?xico; born 20 Jun 1670 in San Felipe de Cuqu?o, Jalisco, M?xico; died 27 Oct 1721 in La Hacienda de Buenavista, Cuqu?o, Jalisco, M?xico.
                vii.        Juana Alvarez de Luna, born 1674 - 1675 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown; married Sebasti?n Alonso Gonz?lez de Hermosillo ca. 1700 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; born 11 Feb 1674 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown.
                viii.        Manuel Alvarez de Luna, born 10 May 1677 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown.
                ix.        Juan Alvarez de Luna, born 1679 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown.

Generation No. 4

        10.  Andr?s de Arriola, born ca. 1604 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown.  He married 11. Catarina de Ibarra ca. 1625 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico.
        11.  Catarina de Ibarra, born ca. 1608 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown.  She was the daughter of Antonio de Ibarra and Mar?a Escobar.
        
Children of Andr?s Arriola and Catarina Ibarra are:
                i.        Josepha de Arriola, born ca. 1626 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown; married Francisco de Espinoza 8 May 1645 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; born ca. 1623 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown.

Notes for Josepha de Arriola:
22 May 1640        Francisco de Villalobos, hl Cristobal Villalobos and Maria Perez de Nava,
married Maria Vazquez Retamosa, hl Gaspar Macias Valades and Mariana
Torres.  Padrinos: Pedro Alonso and Josefa arriola, daughter of Andres Arriola.

                ii.        Mar?a de Arriola, born ca. 1628 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown; married (1) Francisco de Orozco; married (2) Juan de Medina ca. 1645 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; born ca. 1620 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown.
        5        iii.        Catarina de Arriola, born ca. 1630 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown; married (1) Francisco de Orozco Ag?ero in Never Married; married (2) Francisco G?mez Rend?n ca. 1646 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico.
                iv.        Juana de Arriola, born ca. 1632 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown.

        12.  Juan Alvarez y Vieira, born ca. 1591 in Hacienda de Atotonilco, Sombrerete, Zacatecas, M?xico; died 13 Aug 1672 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico.  He was the son of Lorenzo Alvarez and Agustina de Vieira.  He married 13. Beatriz Tostado ca. 1614 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico.
        13.  Beatriz Tostado, born ca. 1595 in Zacatecas, Zacatecas, M?xico; died Unknown.  She was the daughter of Lorenzo Ruiz Tostado and Elena Mart?nez.
        
Children of Juan Alvarez y Vieira and Beatriz Tostado are:
                i.        Lorenzo Alvarez Tostado, born ca. 1615 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died 8 Apr 1683 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; married Mar?a Francisca de Nava y Cuevas ca. 1638 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; born 22 Mar 1619 in Santa Mar?a de los Lagos, Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco, M?xico; died 29 May 1668 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico.
                ii.        Luisa Alvarez Tostado, born ca. 1618 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown; married Francisco Mu?oz de Nava ca. 1637 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; born ca. 1615 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown.
                iii.        Nicol?s Alvarez Tostado, born ca. 1622 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown.
                iv.        Gertrudis Alvarez Tostado, born ca. 1626 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown; married Jos? Galarza ca. 1647 in Teocaltiche,Jal-?; born ca. 1625 in Teocaltiche,Jal-?.
        6        v.        Marcos Alvarez Tostado, born ca. 1631 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown; married Mar?a de Luna ca. 1657 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico.

        14.  Antonio de Luna, born ca. 1610 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown.  He married 15. Antonia Tejeda ca. 1631 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico.
        15.  Antonia Tejeda, born ca. 1612 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown.
        
Child of Antonio Luna and Antonia Tejeda is:
        7        i.        Mar?a de Luna, born ca. 1635 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico; died Unknown; married Marcos Alvarez Tostado ca. 1657 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco, M?xico.

Quisiera advertirles, que esta informaci?n es correcta hasta lo que tengo investigado y conocido.  Estoy seguro que los verdaderos expertos de la feligres?a de Teocaltiche van a tener m?s datos que yo, informaci?n que a?n no he localizado, y nos dar?n una perspectiva m?s amplia.  Gracias por su ayuda y de antemano por todo lo que contribuyen. De verdad se les agradece much?simo.

Steven Francisco Hern?ndez L?pez

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