When I get home this evening, I'll look it up and get back to you.

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Alicia,

Can you please tell me where I can get or borrow a copy of Nochistlan de Zacatecas by Evelia Clotilde Quirarte?

I have ancestors from the Mazapil/Nochistlan area. I am looking for information about the settlers of the hacienda de San Juan, later called de Ahorcados because the local Indians attacked the settlers and hung them all. I am looking for Monico or Jose Monico Barron, born in said hacienda about 1761 and his wife Justa or Rufina or Justa Rufina Candelaria possible surname Paredes, born possibly in the same place about 1764.

I am also looking for any books about Mazapil in the 1700s. The hacienda de San Juan de Ahorcados or simply Ahorcados, was destroyed about 1771+- and rebuilt about 1776+-.

TIA for any information you can assist me with.

Elvira

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Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2016 22:37:44 -0700
From: Danny Alonso
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I had a question about the science site with the Mayan, Huichol and Nahua
mixtures but my question is not very clear. I know that some of my
ancestors were from the Caxcan tribe headed by the Mendoza's and I don't
know what happened to the Caxcan people, maybe they disappeared or maybe
they just mixed with the Spanish people like Chief Blas de Mendoza. but
does anyone know how that DNA is researched? are they part of the Mayan,
Huichol or NAhuas or have they just disappeared? so as an example say that
all my indigenous ancestors were Caxcan people from Teocaltiche and since
I don't see the Caxcan tribe listed as one of the tribes of the Native
Mexicans on the admixture picture, would my Caxcan DNA be reclassified
under another tribe or would it be redistributed among several different
tribes or just not be listed

Danny C. Alonso

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Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 11:12:41 -0500
From: Juan Aguayo
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Danny,

Check out the following posts my prima Alicia made on Nuestros Ranchos a
few years back. I've attached them here because the Tachiquin last name is
most likely a Caxcan last name that still survives today. As far as I know
there are still some Tachiquin families in el barrio de San Sebastian in
Nochistlan, not far from Teocaltiche. I'm not sure how much of European and
other DNAs have been mixed into this family over the years. My DNA has
Caxcan DNA as most if not all of the people with ancestry in this part of
Mexico does. The Caxcanes have been mixed in with European, African, Middle
Eastern, Asian DNA's present in this part of Mexico. This is the mestisaje
that makes us Mexican. I'm not aware of any pure Caxcan people living
today, but the Tachiquin elders are probably the closest we can get to pure
Caxcan DNA. Years ago Family Tree DNA listed my indigenous DNA as Mayan,
but today it's just listed as Native American most likely because they know
there are distinct and different indigenous DNA throughout Mexico. Mayans
are quite a bit farther south in Mexico so I'm pretty sure Caxcanes are not
Mayan. Based on some quick research, there are some sites stating the
Caxcan are part of the Uto-Aztecan family as are the aztecas, huicholes,
zacatecos, nahuas and matlatzincas. Since DNA research in Mexico is in its
infancy so to speak, more refined markers identifying Caxcan DNA are not
available as far as I know. Maybe that will change with the work of Dr.
Carlos Bustamante at Stanford University.

Saludos,

Juan Aguayo

See past post below:

Lisa,

As you may know, surnames were not used by the native American people.
Having
said that, the surname of Tachiquin is indigenous to the area of Nochistlan
and
is the only known indian surname that survived and was not converted to
spanish
or the castillian language.

Aside from this, I don't know anything else about this surname other than
it was
and is an original indian surname. Would your grandfather by chance be from
Tenayuca or Toyahua in the municipality of Nochistlan?

Alicia,
San Jose, Calif

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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Help with a Surname

Can any one tell me about the Name Tachiquin. My Great Grandfather's name is
Pedro Tachiquin, we do not know anything about him except that he was
indio, and
from Nochistlan. I would like to know about the people in that area if any
one
can help me I sure would appreciate it. Many thanks.

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Tachiquin Surname's origins

Submitted by oldcar53 on Wed, 2011-03-23 03:00.

Lisa,

Good news, I knew that I'd read something somewhere about the surname
Tachiquin
and today I had time to look into it and found the following.

In the book Nochistlan de Zacatecas by Evelia Clotilde Quirarte there's a
section that tells of a few indian surnames.

The surname Tachiquin corresponds to families that originated in the Barrio
of
San Sebastian of Nochistlan. The Tachiquin surname is believed to have
originally been tlachiunqui that was then converted to tlachinqui. The
letter t
before the letter L is characteristic of the language of the cazcan nation
indigenous to the area of Nochistlan and the surrounding areas. She states
that
the etimology of the word tlachiuanite means to cast a spell. (espanol),(
hechizar, aojar, el encantador, el que hechiza)

She believed that the original Tachiquin may have been an important healer
or
medicine man or man of influence in the Caxcan community.

In 1913, a person with the name of Tachiquin was honored for giving his
life for
defending Nochistlan.

I hope this helps.

Alicia,
San Jose, Ca.

On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 12:37 AM, Danny Alonso wrote:

> I had a question about the science site with the Mayan, Huichol and Nahua
> mixtures but my question is not very clear. I know that some of my
> ancestors were from the Caxcan tribe headed by the Mendoza's and I don't
> know what happened to the Caxcan people, maybe they disappeared or maybe
> they just mixed with the Spanish people like Chief Blas de Mendoza. but
> does anyone know how that DNA is researched? are they part of the Mayan,
> Huichol or NAhuas or have they just disappeared? so as an example say that
> all my indigenous ancestors were Caxcan people from Teocaltiche and since
> I don't see the Caxcan tribe listed as one of the tribes of the Native
> Mexicans on the admixture picture, would my Caxcan DNA be reclassified
> under another tribe or would it be redistributed among several different
> tribes or just not be listed
>
> Danny C. Alonso