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Por JMendi |

Good evening,

I am a new member of nuestrosranchos and find this an excellent resource
full of great information.

As I continue to research my family tree and fill in the gaps, one major gap
I have is not being able to confirm who are the parents of Juan de Moscoso y
Sandoval, married to Catalina Andrea Benavides Cortez in Nochistlan, in
early 1600. Some say Juan’s father was Lope de Moscoso Osorio y Castro (VI
Conde de Altamira) and his mother was Leonor Sandoval Roxas y Borja. Has
anybody found any confirmation of who his parents were?

I found this book “Nobiliario Genealógico de los Reyes y Títulos de España ”
which you can fully download from
(https://books.googleusercontent.com/books/content?req=AKW5QaeqgrLiRCz9C…
U4zaajKX5Xi68jbRMqBnED3joB5_XIktZUnklH0Umz-G2QRig8XzygFJpponVB_MOcy42Rbie13O
1ib0KmN9zpPNzyubLEHd28bQKm4VvT2Rybg__FxdqXl7KWw8cIJhM73TsYP-QQ_Zdb7Ah1TYGSjC
8QB01hmwQ7AWcukB8FQTz5f2KyAFL0z34nb6k7kWDzpALOig6tiaWG7IVRtxiYRQzPdWvIWmFdpT
ZX0xWsztSxnDX38s8Up26pzAYd8S-78zk4AM1xEreQGD5HoFrLP4pCKsagwYoA ) The book is
quite interesting and has excellent information which could be helpful to
many of you. On pages 332-334, the author mentions Lope de Moscoso Osorio,
his wife and, although not clear to me, also mentions them having 10
children? If you have a chance to access this book, please read the first
paragraph on the second column of page 332. Afterwards, several of their
children are mentioned but not all. Unfortunately Juan Moscoso y Sandoval
was not listed and may be one of those missing.

In addition, in the next paragraph mentions one of his sons as Baltasar de
Moscoso y Sandoval as Cardenal de la Santa Iglesia Romana y Obispo de Jaen,
que fue Arcediano de Guadalajara, etc. Does anyone know what is Arcediano de
Guadalajara and is the Guadalajara referred to here in Mexico (Nueva España)
or somewhere else in Spain?

Again, I am just trying to find the missing link for me regarding who were
the parents of Juan de Moscoso y Sandoval.

Thank you for your time and feedback to help me get the info/source I am
missing.

Jose Mendizabal

This is one of the great mysteries of nuestrosranchos that we are all stuck on. To my knowledge no one has confirmed his parents. I have seen many trees online with the information you have posted but they are not confirmed at all. Another candidate you will see on this forum is Juan's father being Matheo Vazquez de Sandoval, also unconfirmed but he at least was in the area at the time period.

To search this forum, I suggest going to google and entering:

site:nuestrosranchos.org (search terms)

You do not include the parenthesis when adding your search terms.

Hi Jose,

This has been debated for several years. I do recall the hypothesis, as you mentioned, that our Nochistlán line connects to Lope de Moscoso y Osorio and his wife Leonor de Sandoval y Rojas. The timeline and last names definitely fit, but what no one has been able to answer is if a primary source exists to establish this link. Also, where did the Vázquez surname originate from? How does Mateo Vázquez de Sandoval fit into all this?

As to your question about Arcediano de Guadalajara, it means he was the Archdeacon of the cathedral in the city of Guadalajara in Castilla, Spain.

Daniel Méndez de Torres y Camino

Hi Daniel-

Thank you for your response. Very helpful.

As we continue to research who were the parents of Juan Moscoso y Sandoval, I found a link that many members of nuestrosranchos will find helpful if they do not already have it bookmarked as a great resource: https://www.archivesportaleurope.net/web/guest;jsessionid=A0D7B8EED7AD3…

Searching thru it for Juan Moscoso y Sandoval took me to an interesting document that points to: Expediente de concesión de licencia para pasar a México a favor de los hermanos Francisco y Juan de Sandoval, vecinos de Alcabón, hijos de Pedro de Sandoval y de Catalina Martín in 1607, which is about the time we would see Juan de Moscoso y Sandoval in Nochistlan.

The original scanned documents are accessible from the Archivo General de Indias at: http://pares.mcu.es/ParesBusquedas20/catalogo/show/440989 It lists about 17 images which will be helpful to read and transcribe to see if we can get more information on who these brothers were and where in Nueva España they moved to.

Jose Mendizabal

Hi Daniel-

Thank you for your response. Very helpful.

As we continue to research who were the parents of Juan Moscoso y Sandoval,
I found a link that many members of nuestrosranchos will find helpful if
they do not already have it bookmarked as a great resource:
https://www.archivesportaleurope.net/web/guest;jsessionid=A0D7B8EED7AD3…
D514024BB2ED0C

Searching thru it for Juan Moscoso y Sandoval took me to an interesting
document that points to: “Expediente de concesión de licencia para pasar a
México a favor de los hermanos Francisco y Juan de Sandoval, vecinos de
Alcabón, hijos de Pedro de Sandoval y de Catalina Martín”, in 1607, which is
about the time we would see Juan de Moscoso y Sandoval in Nochistlán.

The original documents are scanned and accessible from the Archivo General
de Indias at: http://pares.mcu.es/ParesBusquedas20/catalogo/show/440989

It lists about 17 images which will need to be read and transcribed to see
if we can get more information on who these brothers were, if they had
Moscoso as a last name as well, and where in Nueva España they moved to.

Jose Mendizabal

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