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I’ve done some research of Alonso de Arevalo and Beatriz Lopez de Ayala who settled for a time in Colima. I've read several books referring to this couple. It lists the three children by this marriage as Pedro (Born abt. 1538), Gonzalo born abt.1540) and Diego (Born abt. 1541). One book even lists another son Francisco however his name does not come up again in any other accounts. These books with many articles provided much detail of about their lives in Colima but no information of the son Gonzalo’s marriage. Pedro who it appears did not marry was the oldest and along with a half-brother inherited most of his parent’s estate. According to written accounts when Pedro died he left no heirs.

So my question is how does this Gonzalo Lopez de Ayala directly link to the Pedro Ortiz de San Pedro and Maria Esquivel couple?

I’ve poured over the valuable information many of our group has contributed to revealing and linking the Arevalo and Lopez de Ayala family to Pedro Ortiz de San Pedro and Maria Esquivel. However I would appreciate any assistance to reconcile my understanding of the descendancy of this couple especially as it relates to a forum post, dated back on 07/22/2010.

Therein it was stated: Pedro Ortiz de San Pedro was the son of Juan Ortiz de San Pedro (Native of Toledo) and Catalina Lopez de Ayala. Pedro married Maria Esquivel and had daughter Cecilia Lopez who married first Hernando de Haro followed by Felipe Dias de Santiago. This post also mentions another Gonzalo Lopez de Ayala the “Maestre de Campo” for Nuño Beltran de Guzman who in 1529 initiated a campaign in the areas of Colima, Tepic, Jalisco, Michoacan etc. The same post lists Pedro’s brothers respectively as Gonzalo (el Mozo) and Jeronimo Ortiz de San Pedro.

It’s my assumption neither of the Gonzalo’s mentioned here is the son of Alonso Arevalo and Beatriz Lopez de Ayala based on the timeframe of Gonzalo de Lopez’s participation as Maestre de Campo.

Additionally I’ve reviewed a document “Relación de la Entrada de Nuño de Guzman” authored in 1529 by de Guzman’s appointed scribe and interpreter, Garcia del Pilar of this campaign. It mentions the Maestre de Campo, Gonzalo Lopez several times never using the de Ayala surname. This Relación also precludes the possibility the son named Gonzalo born to Alonso Arevalo and Beatriz Lopez de Ayala is the Gonzalo referred to a “Maestre de Campo” are one and the same.

Thanks in advance. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Gus Meza

I believe the confusion arises out of Romero de Solis, author of Andariegos y Pobladores, mistanking Pedro de Arevalo, son of Alonso de Arevalo and Beatriz Lopez de Ayala, with Pedro Ortiz de San Pedro, son of Juan (Ortiz) de San Pedro and Catalina Lopez (de Ayala). There is no reason why a son of the first couple would bear the last name "Ortiz de San Pedro.

The reason he makes the mistake is that Pedro Ortiz de San Pedro (whom Romero de Solis sometimes refers to as "Pedro de Arevalo") had a brother named Gonzalo Lopez de Ayala (this Gonzalo takes the name from his mother, Catalina Lopez "de Ayala"), whom Romero de Solís refers to as "el Mozo", and Beatriz Lopez de Ayala had a brother with the same name (whom Romero de Solis refers to as "the elder"). In certain document, Gonzalo Lopez de Ayala (el Mozo) refers to Pero Ortiz as his brother: "según declaración de Marcos de Cárdenas, moreno libre, mayor de 40 años de edad, hallándose en casa de Diego de Monroy, hará 3 meses, al tiempo que falleció Pedro de Bobadilla, Pero Ortiz, hermano de Gonzalo López, le pidió al mercader Diego de Monroy, de su tienda, ciertas varas de bayeta y cierto tafetán, y otras cosas, que dijo eran para Gonzalo López, …".

Gonzalo Lopez de Ayala, el Mozo, is the one who married Juliana de Bobadilla, and Jeronimo Ortiz was another brother.

I believe that Catalina Lopez (de Ayala) and Beatriz Lopez were sisters (not only because they share the family name, but because Beatriz carried on business transactions with Juan de San Pedro, who lived in Zacatecas, and, at one point, knowing that Juan had financial troubles, she even gave him extra time to pay for what he owed her). Diego Lopez de Ayala, married in 1561 to Juana Fernandez, might have been their brother (and not Pedro de Arevalo and Beatriz's son, as Romero de Solis states, because the couple married in 1537, first child was born in 1538, the second in 1540. No man would be permitted to marry with less than 16 years).

Catalina Lopez married Juan de San Pedro and had 3 sons, most likely born in Zacatecas: 1. Pero (Pedro) Ortiz de San Pedro, married to Maria de Esquivel and lived in Colima, Jerez and most probably in Tlaltenango; 2. Gonzalo Lopez de Ayala (whom she names after her deceased brother), married to Juliana de Bobadilla and lives in Colima and Tlaltenango (where the Bobadillas were from); and 3. Jeronimo Ortiz.

Beatriz Lopez first married Alonso de Arevalo and had 2 sons: Gonzalo Lopez de Ayala and Pedro de Arevalo. Gonzalo died before her mother. Pedro is always referred to by Beatriz as "Pedro de Arevalo", not as "Pero Ortiz de San Pedro" (“... Iten digo que si pareciere yo deber alguna cosa a Alonso Miguel, que averiguado e liquidado lo que fuere, se lo pague Pedro de Arévalo, mi hijo. Iten … - “para hacer y cumplir mi ánima, digo que, si mi hijo Pedro de Arévalo lo quisiere tomar a su cargo, que no se haga almoneda dellos, ni justicia ni otra persona alguna se entremeta en ello, porque ésta es mi voluntad y ansí se lo encomiendo y le ruego que lo haga conmigo como Dios lo haga con él”." - "El 10 de febrero, Pedro de Arévalo, hijo y albacea de doña Beatriz López de Ayala, y el muy reverendo …"). It seems neither of them married or had children.

I do not know anything about Maria de Esquivel, our Pedro's wife.

Regards,
Hector

Agustine,

My ancestor Antonio San Martin Estrada married Jospepha, the daughter of Martin Tello de Orozco and Lorenza de Haro. Have you come across anymore San Martin Estrada’s?

Kind Regards

Oe

Hola Agustine:

La historia de detallada de la vida de Beatriz la lei en un archivo PDF que puedes ver en línea llamado "Andariegos y Pobladores de Nueva España y Nueva Galicia" de Miguel Romero de Solís.

También hay una sección dedicada a su hijo Pedro de Arévalo quien fue su sucesor.
Los otros dos hijos de Beatriz: Gonzalo y Diego utilizaban el apellido López de Ayala en lugar del apellido paterno Arévalo.

Gonzalo murió antes que su madre.

Saludos

Marcelina

Gracias Marcelina por tus comentos. Hace tiempo que he revisado el archivo que mencionaste. Tiene mucho información. Ademas tengo los libros: The Encomenderos of New Spain 1521-1555 autor Robert Himmerich y Valencia, Prosas Literararias e Históricos autor Felipe Sevilla del Río, Los Testigos Hablan (La Conquista de Colima y sus Informantes) por Rosa Margarita Nettel Ross. Todos contienen muchos detalles de esta familia menos las información que busco.

Con Respecto

Agustín (Gus) Meza

Hola Agustín:

Al parecer Juan Ortiz de San Pedro era minero en Zacatecas, pues aparece como peticionario en una carta que dirigieron los mineros a las autoridades y que está registrada en el Portal pares en la audiencia de Guadalajara, bajo la clave GUADALAJARA,51,L.1,N.139

También hay un privilegio de juros, que al parecer era un "prestamo forzoso" mediante el cual el rey tomaba el oro que iba registrado a España.

Saludos

Marcelina

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