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Hello everyone,

I don't know if this is even possible but I was wondering if anyone would know how I could find out more information about a Grand Aunt/Great Aunt. Her name is/was Maria Nicolasa Aceves Lomeli. She was a Nun. She used to write letters to my older sister when we were little. They had a difference of opinions and stopped writing to each other. I would like to know if anyone can help finding more information on her and my Great grandmother (Aurelia Lomeli: last known address for her was Calle 10A-1871 Col. Ferrocarril S.R. Guadalajara Jalisco, Mexico 44440)
Last known address for Maria Nicolasa was Instituto Cabanas Mariano Otero 2145 Plaza del Sol Guadalajara Jalisco, Mexico 45050

Thank you for your time and help in this matter!

Nancy Lopez

Hi Nancy,

I would need more information to positively identify your grandmother Aurelia Lomeli. Is her second surname Carranza? Do you have a birthdate or any other information that would help indentify her? The church would have information on your great aunt that was a nun.

Good luck in your research,
Rick A. Ricci

Hello Rick,

My Great Grandmother's Birthday was April 17, 1903. Her parents names were Antonio Lomeli and Refugio Rodrigues.

And on my great aunt, what church should I look into?

Thank you for your help.

Hello Nancy,

1) Aurelia Lomeli (b. 17/Apr/1903) is the daughter of Jose Antonio Lomeli and Refugio Rodrigues.

2) Jose Antonio Lomeli is the son of Tomas Lomeli and María Sostenes Lupercio

3) Tomas Lomeli is the son of Prudencio Lomeli and Tomasa Vasquez

4) Prudencio Lomeli is the son of Juan Lomeli and Rosalia Huerta

5) Juan Lomeli is the son of José Gabriel Lomeli and Mariana Ygnacia Gertrudis Gutierrez

6) José Gabriel Lomeli is the son of Vicente Ferrer Lomeli and Ysabel Rodriguez De Frias

7) Vicente Ferrer Lomeli is the son of Antonio Lomelin and Petrona Alvarez Tostado

8) Antonio Lomeli is the son of Gabriel Lomeli and Melchora De los Reyes Delgadillo

9) Gabriel Lomeli is the son of Domingo Lomelin and Juana Regina de Mendoza

10) Carlos Lomelin (aka Carlo Lomellini) and María Benavides Cortes

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María del Refugio Rodriguez y Diaz ( bap. on 26/May/1872) is the daughter of Rodrigo Rodríguez and Teodora Diaz

Rodrigo Rodríguez is the son of Petronilo Rodriguez and María Dionicia. González

Petronilo is the son of Miguel Rodriguez and Juana María Arambula

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María Dionicia González is the daughter of Pablo Gonzalez and Ma. Candelaria Yañez

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Teodora Díaz is the daughter of Bruno Diaz and Cirila Avila

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Tomasa Vasquez is the son of Teodocio Vasquez and María Apolonia Figueroa

Teodocio Vasquez is the son of Joseph Silvino Vasquez and María Nestora Rodriguez

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María Apolonia Figueroa is the daughter of Miguel Figueroa and María Rita Landeros
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María Sostenes is the daughter of Onofre Lupercio and Nemecia Torres

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I do have some more info to add,
Rick A. Ricci

Hi Nancy,

Here is some more information on some of your ancestors:

Teodora Díaz is the daughter of Bruno Diaz and Cirila Avila

Bruno Diaz is the son of Joaquin Diaz and María Apolinaria Regalado

Juaquin Diaz is the son of Francisco Diaz and Josefa Lara

María Apolinaria Regalado is the daughter of Carlos Regalado and Lugarda Vasquez

Carlos Regalado is the son of Thomas Regalado and María Alexandra Cortes

Lugarda Vasquez is the daughter of José Vasquez and María Dolores Gómez Franco

Cirila Avila (Aguila) is the daughter of José Carmen De Avila (?Aguila)and María De los Santos Sanchez

José Carmen Aguila is the son of Victorio Aguila and María Manuela Espinosa

María De los Santos Sánchez is daughter of Faustino Sanchez and Teresa Maldonado

Thanks,
Rick A. Ricci

Hi Nancy,

All of this information that I posted here on your great grandmother’s ancestry came from baptismal or marriage records. Here is a little more information on some of yourancestors:

Thomas Regalado (bap. 12/Dec/1731) is the son of Bernardo Regalado and María Quiteriia Orosco (aka Losa, aka Ramirez). That María Quiteria used three different surnames may help in figuring out her ancestry.

Tomas was married to María Alejandra Cortez, (daughter of Nicolas Cortez and Gertrudis (?Romero) I am not sure about Gertrudis’s surname. Thomas had a second marriage to María Margarita Losa, but you descend from the first wife. A grandchild’s baptismal record erroneously names her as a grandmother but she was a step grandmother . Due to Thomas’s mother using the “Losa” surname often, I believe that there is a strong chance that his second wife is related to his mother.

I have much more info on some of the ancestors of some of the wives that I posted in your Lomeli line. I also previously posted info on the probable ancestral line of Carlo Lomellini. Some other genealogists have posted here in nuestrosranchos info on the ancestry of María Benavides.

Thanks,
Rick A. Ricci

All of this information is very interesting to me. I actually just bumped into one of your topics on Carlo. Everything I was reading was very knowledgeable and interesting. I've always been the curious type so the more I find the more into it I get. And, did you finally published your book? If so, what is the name of it?
Thank you for helping me with this. I am forever grateful to you!

Dear Nancy,

Was your great-grandmother married to Pedro Aceves? If Pedro Aceves was your great-grandfather, did you descend from Ester,Estefania, or María del Refugio?

Thanks,
Rick A. Ricci

Yes I do!!
Esther was my grandmother. She was married to Rafael Barba. We never met them, so we knew very little about that side of the family. Pedro's father was Calixto Aceves and Calixto's father was Toribio Aceves and Toribio's father was Jesus Aceves. That's as far as I have gotten there.

I wanted to share my DNA results with you just because of one area that caught my attention.
Basque, I had never heard of this place until I got my results back and then I saw it somewhere on one of your discussions.

Ethnicity Estimate Updates
Native American—North, Central, South 43%
Northeastern Mexico
Eastern Coahuila & Northern Nuevo Leon
Northeastern Mexico & South Texas
Spain 22%
France 14%
Portugal 12%
Italy 3%
Cameroon, Congo, & Southern Bantu Peoples 2%
Basque 1%
Sweden 1%
Mali 1%
European Jewish 1%

Dear Nancy,
I am related to you many, many times. The closest relationship that I have found is that we are sixth cousins repeatedly through your Barba ancestry. I am not listing your Barba ancestry here as it would take too long to post the ancestry of your grandfather Rafael Barba. I can send you Rafael BARBA’s ancestry through the regular mail.

Here is more information on your Aceves ancestry:

1) Esther Aceves is the daughter of Pedro Aceves and Aurelia Lomeli

2) Pedro Aceves (bap. 2/July/1899) is the son of Calixto Aceves and Juana Morales (daughter of Liberato Morales and Ma.Estanislao Valdivia).

3) Calixto Aceves is the son of José Thoribio Aceves and María Estefana Fernandez (daughter of José Reyes Fernandez and Nieves Navarro).

4) José Thoribio Aceves (bap. 2/May/1824) is the son of Jesus Aceves and María Antonia Hermosillo ( daughter of Ysidro Hermosillo and Josefa Martin.) (Josefa Martin is the daughter of Francisco Martin del Campo and Maria Teresa Valencia)

5) Jesus Aceves is the son of Francisco Xavier Aceves and Josefa (Ma.de SanJose)Barajas.

6) Francisco Xabier Aceves married to Josefa (Ma.de SanJose) Barajas

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José Thoribio Aceves’s maternal grandmother, Josefa Martin, is also related to me.

Josefa is the daughter of Francisco Martin del Campo and María Teresa Valencia.

Francisco Martin del Campo is the son of Estefania Martin del Campo and an unknown father

Your ancestor María Teresa Valencia has a sister, Maria Rita Valencia, who is my ancestor.

Maria Rita Valencia is married to Joseph Domingo Estrada. (My ancestors)

Maria Teresa Valencia and Maria Rita Valencia are the daughters of Lorenzo Valencia and Juana Gertrudis Maldonado (aka Gonzalez) (daughter of Antonio Gonzalez and Petronila 'Petra' Gutierrez-Maldonado

Lorenzo Valencia and Juana Gertrudis 'Petra' Maldonado are married in Ocotlan, Jalisco on 10/Dec/1736

Lorenzo's parents are Nicolas Valencia and Josepha Martinez

Thanks,
Rick A. Ricci

Good Morning Cousin,

That is awesome news!Everything that you have given me here I have passed on to my sisters and they are just as fascinated as I am.
And if you can email me that info, I would greatly appreciate it.
Do you need my email address?

Hi Nancy,

The more that I look at your ancestors, the more ancestors we have in common, so we are indeed cousins. I previously wrote that Francisco Martin del Campo was the son of an unknown father and María Estephania Martin del Campo. The father is no longer unknown. I discovered that his father’s surname is Medina. I don’t know Francisco’s father’s first name.

You also descend from Toribio Hernández Arellano and Isabel Mendoza. For more information of his ancestry, take a look at what I posted on the “probable ancestry of Toribio Hernández Arellano”.This ancestry adds to your French and Basque ancestry that you were curious about.

Yes, I need your email address to send you more information and a picture of your great aunt María Nicolasa Aceves Lomelin.

Thanks,
Rick A. Ricci

Dear Nancy,

I took a look at the tree you have on file. Then I looked up the source on Aniceta Barba’s mother, María Guadalupe Camarena . There Is faulty information in the record even though it is a primary source. Primary sources sometimes contain mistakes. María Guadalupe Camarena’s father is not named Abundio Camarena. I did more investigating and found her baptismal record which provides the correct parents.

1) María Guadalupe Camarena (bap. 16/Oct/1861 in Arandas, Jalisco) is the daughter of Abundio Vasquez and María Ladislao Camarena

2) Abundio Vasquez is the son of Juan Nepomuceno Vasquez y Yniguez and María Prudencia Plasencia y Aramburo.

3) Juan Nepomuceno Vasquez (bap. 3/July/1804, Atotonilco, Jalisco) is the son of José Leon Vasquez and María De Jesus Yniguez

4) Joséph Leon Vasquez(bap 19/Apr/1750, Ayotlan, Jalisco) is the son of Ramon Vasquez and María Magdalena Perez

5) Ramon Vasquez and María Magdalena Perez

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María Ladislao Camarena (bap. 5/July/1840, Arandas ) is the daughter of Ygnacio Camarena and María de los Dolores Canchola

Ygnacio Camarena is the son of Francisco Camarena and Maria Guadalupe Mendez

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María Dolores Canchola is the daughter of Francisco Canchola and María Gertrudis Margarita Fuentes

Francisco Canchola is the son of Jose Felipe Canchola and Ana María Rodriguez

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María Margarita Fuentes is the daughter of Bernardino Fuentes and Mariana

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María de Jesús Yniguez is the daughter of Pedro Yniguez and María Nicolasa Romero

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María Prudencia Plasencia is the daughter of José Florencio “Felis” Plasencia and María Aramburo (Arambula)

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There are other mistakes in your file. My book, Mygenes2000, is not published yet, but you could correct many of those mistakes by looking at postings here in nuestrosranchos.org. My posting on “Christobal Villaseñor” is an example of a posting that you can gather much information from for your family tree : http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/23624?page=2

Thanks,
Rick A. Ricci
Source: Mygenes2000

In the study of genealogy i have often found instances where the person takes the surname of the mother instead of the father. Sometimes you will find instances where they take the surname of a grandparent, or greatgrandparent, instead of a parent. This happened often in the sixteenth and seventeenth hundreds in Nueva Galicia.

I forgot to add that José Feliciano “Felis” or “Felix” Plasencia” had “José Feliciano. Plasencia Alias Fierro” in a record.

José Feliciano Plasencia Alias Fierro is the son of Francisco Plasencia and Madalena Fierro

María Maxima Arambula (bap 8/July/1792) is the daughter of Juan José González de Arambula and María Petra Lucia Lopez De Elizalde

José Feliciano Plasencia Alias Fierro and María Maxima Arambula were married 9/Nov/1809 in Tepatitlan. Jalisco

Another ancestor of yours who also used multiple surnames is María Quiteriia Orosco (aka Losa, aka Ramirez). Quiteria was married to Bernardo Regalado.

Thank you,
Rick A. Ricci

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