I thought i remembered someone offering an index of entries of the Aguascalientes Marrages in an MS Word document form . Does anyone else know where this link or Database is posted. ?
I have just read the entry in the book "Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara" (p. 336, #1769) for the dispensation of Sebastian de Chavez and Maria Gertrudis Macias, for 3rd degree consanguinity. The record is dated 27 Sep 1754, Mezquital del Oro, Zacatecas. The dispensation was apparently granted 25 Feb 1746.
If I have read the entry correctly, Sebastian de Chavez is the grandson of Joseph de Valderrama (his wife is not named). Maria Gertrudis Macias is the granddaughter of Nicolas Macias Valadez. Nicolas Macias Valadez and Joseph de Valderrama are brothers, but Nicolas is from the first wife and Joseph from the second wife of their unnamed father.
Nicolas's wife is named; she is Juana de Anda. Are they the Nicolas Macias and Juana de Anda who were married in Santa Maria de los Lagos, Lagos de Moreno, on 16 Sep 1680?
I can find baptisms for several children for Nicolas and Juana, but not the son (Juan) who is the father of Maria Gertrudis.
I can find little information on the Valderramas: I have the marriage date for Sebastian's mother Tomasa de Valderrama and Phelipe de Chavez (casados: 7 Nov 1708 and velados: 8 Apr 1709), but nothing else.
Who is the father of Nicolas and Joseph, and who are their mothers?
Any assistance would be appreciated.
George Fulton
i'm sorry, helyn, but it is my married name and no research has been done.
I'm still trying to find my ggrandfather from Ojuelos de Jalisco and have had no luck at all...it's been almost a year. Can anyone help.
Searching for
Jose Refugio Cortez married to Alejandra Hernandez. Refugio and Alejandra had the following children
Antonio Cortez Hernandez 1909
Hilario Cortez Hernandez
Martina Cortez Hernandez
I had stop searching but decided to go back at it.... I was just getting disappointed that I was not getting anywhere. I also notice that LDS has not posted anything from Ojuelos nor any new updated from Guanajuato which is my mom side.
If anyone can help i would really appreciate it.
Thanks
1. Justo Sanchez-1 was born in Mexico.
Perfecta Gonzalez was born in Mexico. Justo Sanchez and Perfecta Gonzalez married. They had the following children:
2. i. Simon Sanchez was born in Mexico. He married Maria Leonarda Becerra on May 11, 1825 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
Generation 2
2. Simon Sanchez-2 (Justo-1) was born in Mexico.
Notes for Simon Sanchez: General Notes: Also listed as Simon Sanches.
Maria Leonarda Becerra daughter of Nicolas Becerra and Maria Apolonia Collazo was born in Mexico.
Notes for Maria Leonarda Becerra: General Notes: Also listed as Leonor Becerra, Maria Lenor Becerra, Maria Leonor Becerra and Leonarda Becerra.
Simon Sanchez and Maria Leonarda Becerra were married on May 11, 1825 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico. They had the following children:
i. Jose Nabor Sanchez was born in 1825 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on July 18, 1825 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
Notes for Jose Nabor Sanchez: General Notes: Also listed as Jose Nabor Sanchez Becerra.
3. ii. Tranquilina Sanchez was born in 1827 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico. She married Jose Maria Vasquez on May 27, 1862 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
iii. Jose Antonio Alejandro Sanchez was born in 1829 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on May 02, 1829 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
Maria Anacleta Sanchez was born in 1831 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico. She was christened on April 23, 1831 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
Ma. Cleta Sanchez was born in 1833 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico. She was christened on July 20, 1833 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
vi. Esteban Sanchez was born in 1835 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on August 09, 1835 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
vii. Canuto Sanchez was born in 1838 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on January 28, 1838 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
viii. Jose Arcadio Sanchez was born in 1841 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on January 20, 1841 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
ix. Quirino Sanchez was born in 1843 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on June 11, 1843 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
4. x. Arcadio Sanchez was born in 1845. He married Petra Martinez on January 27, 1875 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
xi. Epifanio Sanchez was born in 1847 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico. He was christened on April 11, 1847 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
5. xii. Esteban Sanchez was born in 1855 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico. He married Mauricia Martinez on November 03, 1875 in Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico.
One of my Durango lines is apparently from Ciudad Zacatecas: Miguel de Talavera, origen of Zacatecas City, son of Miguel de Talavera and Maria Angon, married Nicolasa Rita del Prado, daughter of Miguel Prado and Maria Josepha Paes in San Juan del Rio, Durango, on 3 Oct. 1749. I've looked online and so far cannot locate any Talaveras in that period in Zacatecas. Can anyone assist?
Alicia de San Jose, Ca.
Since you are doing research in Zac. Have you run into the last name Barron in the 1700's?. I am looking for a Jose Monico Barron who was born there about 1761. Also looking for a Justa Rufina Candelaria Paredes born abt 1762-63. Both apparently born in San Juan de Ahorcados, Zac.
I would appreciate a reply.
Elvira in ELP
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There are so many knowledgeable people on this site, I would like to know the best way to validate that the children who were baptized in San Juan are really the siblings of those baptized in San Diego de Alejandría.
Through IGI records, I found the following children of Juan Antonio De Anda, Gertrudis Padilla:
Jose Claro Anda Padilla
residence:Jalisco, Mexico
baptism/christening date:18 Aug 1822
baptism/christening place:
SAN JUAN DE LOS LAGOS,JALISCO,MEXICO
Jose Todosio Anda Padilla
residence:Jalisco, Mexico
baptism/christening date:06 Jun 1824
baptism/christening place:
SAN JUAN DE LOS LAGOS,JALISCO,MEXICO
José Luis De Jesus De Anda
birth:Mentidero residence: San Diego de Alejandría, Jalisco, Mexico
baptism/christening date:27 Aug 1826
baptism/christening place:
La Inmaculada Concepción, San Diego de Alejandría, Jalisco, Mexico
Nicolas De Guadalupe De Anda
birth: Mentidero
residence:San Diego de Alejandría, Jalisco, Mexico
baptism/christening date:16 Dec 1828
baptism/christening place:
La Inmaculada Concepción, San Diego de Alejandría, Jalisco, Mexico
Ma. De La Crus Anda Padilla
residence:Jalisco, Mexico
baptism/christening date:11 May 1831
baptism/christening place:
SAN JUAN DE LOS LAGOS,JALISCO,MEXICO
What are the chances of two Juan Antonio De Anda being married to two Gertrudis Padilla? I know the San Juande los Lagos and San Diego de Alejandría are very close to each other but why would a family not go to the same church for all of their children?
Hola,
Alguien sabe o me podría ayudar a encontrar el escudo de armas (si es que existe) de la familia Castelazo?? Por favor
Juan Bautista Castelazo Diaz se caso en Guanajuato el 2 de junio de 1869 con Maria Asunción Alaman (Nieta de Jose Mariano Sardaneta II Marques de Rayas), tuvieron varios hijos entre ellos Juan Bautista Castelazo Alamán que fué Gobernador de Guanajuato y Maria Castelazo Alaman mi bisabuela.
La leyenda familiar cuenta que el padre de Juan Bautista Castelazo, José Rodrigo Castelazo fue nombrado visconde de Regla pero nunca uso su titulo.
Muchas Gracias por su ayuda
Hi,
Can anybody help me to find the arms shield of the Castelazo family??? please
Juan Bautista Castelazo Diaz married in Guanajuato on june 2nd, 1869 with Maria Asunción Alamán (granddaughter of Jose Mariano Sardaneta II Marques de Rayas), they had several children, among them Juan Bautista Castelazo Alamán who was Governor of Guanajuato y Maria Castelazo Alaman my great grandmother.
The family history tells that the father of Juan Bautista Castelazo Diaz. Jose Rodrigo Castelazo Piña was named Viscount of Regla but he never used that title.
Thank you for your help.
Patricia Haro
I am looking for information on Leandro Esparza, in 1860 he worked as mayordomo on the Hacienda El Carro, which is now the town of Villa Gonzalez Ortega, Zacatecas. He is the father of Francisco Esparza, Francisco's mother was Maria Benita Esparza. I cannot find a record of their marriage. Benita seems to be from Aguascalientes. A relative in Zacatecas has Leandro's bible and it is in the native language of Nahautl! This relative also has a ledger from the Hacienda El Carro which has a page on the wages paid to Leandro in the year 1860. If any of this sounds familiar please let me known. Thank you.
Hola nuevamente me permito saludar respetuosamente a todos en este foro para solicitar de nueva cuenta ayuda para conocer el porque el censo de 1930 en FamilySearch se encuentran 99 municipios del Estado de Jalisco sin embargo no se encuentra el de el Municipio de Ameca,Jalisco alguien me pudiera indicar donde se encuentra el censo de esta localidad? creo que el municipio de Ameca es por mucho, mas grande que algunos otros que si se encuentran a que se debe que no se encuentre dicho censo? Gracias mil por su ayuda.
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Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 18:08:05 -0600
From: Salvador Quirarte
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Cc: Salvador Quirarte
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] REQUEST FOR ADVICE
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Hello to all friends from NuestrosRanchos:
I am about to start an investigation of the QUIRARTE genealogy of
Nochistlan, Zacatecas.
My research pretend to cover to different time lines:
1 - The oldest reference I have is from my grandparents Hermenegildo
Quirarte and Gumara Ruiz.
I have the bautism record of Hermenegildo, from April 13, 1858.. This
Bautism record states his Father was Refugio Quirarte and his mother was
Juana Romo.
>From Gumara Ruiz I have not found any record yet.
I never heard about brothers, sisters, cousins or uncles or other close
relatives on the Quirarte side out of a couple of old aunts named Marta Ruiz
and Amalia Ruiz Quirarte.
So I would like to get your advice in how and where to start digging
information.
2 - The second research focus in more recent happenings .
Hermenegildo and Gumara had two daughters and one son. Daughters were Maria
Quirarte Ruiz, Clotilde Evelia Quirarte Ruiz and Cesar Quirarte Ruiz.
Cesar Quirarte Ruiz (my father) was the younger . He was born in 1901 and
was a recognized violinist. He was for manuy years the first violin of the
National Philarmonic Orchestra of Mexico and later Director of the Simphonic
Orchestra of Jalapa, Veracruz .
His sister Clotilde Evelia Quirarte Ruiz was the first women born in the
State of Zacatetas awarded with a Masters and a Doctorate degree. Her
achivements were recognized by the Congress of the State of Zacatecas.
Clotilde wrote several books about the story and language of Nochistlan,
that I would like to find.
The three brothers left Nochistlan very young after the Mexican revolution
ended and settle in Mexico City, where they study and work.
I also have two copies of the Bauptism record of Maria Quirarte Ruiz.
Both with the name of Ma. Raquel Quirarte. One dated 26 Dec 1893 and the
other dated 6 March 1895.
I recall that my father Cesar Quirarte Ruiz told me he has another brother
born and died before he was born.This boy was Christianed Cesar.
So if there were two brothers named Cesar, perhaps they also have two girls
named Maria. Once the first passed away the second was born and also
received the same name of Maria..
My research is motivated by the fact I just discovered that in a small town
close to Nochistlan, named RANCHO ACULCO, the Public pre-school has been
named: Escuela Cesar Quirarte Ruiz.
I want to investigate if the name of the school is related to my father and
if so, why?
I called the Presidencia Municipal and nobody was able to explain me why the
school has that name.
Any help you can provide me in this subject will be very much appreciated.
Gracias y saludos
Salvador Quirarte
squirartetcn@gmail.com
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Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 21:09:31 -0800 (PST)
From: Alicia Carrillo
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] REQUEST FOR ADVICE
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Salvador,
I was in Nochistlan a few years ago when I walked into a book store and I was
able to find they had several copies of one of her books on Nochistlan.
I have one of those books but I believe it might be possible to find a copy for
you in Nochistlan. If you want, I can inquire with one of my cousins who still
lives there to see if he can find you a copy. You can contact me off-line about
this at, alliecar@pacbell.net
Your Ancestress was and is very famous in Mexico for the same reasons you just
mentioned, she had many academic accomplishments for a woman of her times. She
was also a champion of the rights of the indigenous people of Mexico and she
wrote extensively about their language and their traditions.
Because my family is from Nochistlan and because one of my surnames is Ruiz,
I've done a bit of research on Evelia Clotilde Quirarte.
Saludos,
Alicia de San Jose, Ca.
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From: Salvador Quirarte
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Cc: Salvador Quirarte
Sent: Wed, February 2, 2011 4:08:05 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] REQUEST FOR ADVICE
Hello to all friends from NuestrosRanchos:
I am about to start an investigation of the QUIRARTE genealogy of
Nochistlan, Zacatecas.
My research pretend to cover to different time lines:
1 - The oldest reference I have is from my grandparents Hermenegildo
Quirarte and Gumara Ruiz.
I have the bautism record of Hermenegildo, from April 13, 1858.. This
Bautism record states his Father was Refugio Quirarte and his mother was
Juana Romo.
>From Gumara Ruiz I have not found any record yet.
I never heard about brothers, sisters, cousins or uncles or other close
relatives on the Quirarte side out of a couple of old aunts named Marta Ruiz
and Amalia Ruiz Quirarte.
So I would like to get your advice in how and where to start digging
information.
2 - The second research focus in more recent happenings .
Hermenegildo and Gumara had two daughters and one son. Daughters were Maria
Quirarte Ruiz, Clotilde Evelia Quirarte Ruiz and Cesar Quirarte Ruiz.
Cesar Quirarte Ruiz (my father) was the younger . He was born in 1901 and
was a recognized violinist. He was for manuy years the first violin of the
National Philarmonic Orchestra of Mexico and later Director of the Simphonic
Orchestra of Jalapa, Veracruz .
His sister Clotilde Evelia Quirarte Ruiz was the first women born in the
State of Zacatetas awarded with a Masters and a Doctorate degree. Her
achivements were recognized by the Congress of the State of Zacatecas.
Clotilde wrote several books about the story and language of Nochistlan,
that I would like to find.
The three brothers left Nochistlan very young after the Mexican revolution
ended and settle in Mexico City, where they study and work.
I also have two copies of the Bauptism record of Maria Quirarte Ruiz.
Both with the name of Ma. Raquel Quirarte. One dated 26 Dec 1893 and the
other dated 6 March 1895.
I recall that my father Cesar Quirarte Ruiz told me he has another brother
born and died before he was born.This boy was Christianed Cesar.
So if there were two brothers named Cesar, perhaps they also have two girls
named Maria. Once the first passed away the second was born and also
received the same name of Maria..
My research is motivated by the fact I just discovered that in a small town
close to Nochistlan, named RANCHO ACULCO, the Public pre-school has been
named: Escuela Cesar Quirarte Ruiz.
I want to investigate if the name of the school is related to my father and
if so, why?
I called the Presidencia Municipal and nobody was able to explain me why the
school has that name.
Any help you can provide me in this subject will be very much appreciated.
Gracias y saludos
Salvador Quirarte
squirartetcn@gmail.com
I think I have found the surname "Si" associated with the my Trejo line -
does anyone know if there was a Chinese influence in Tlaltenango area?
This surname is of Chinese orientation.
Esperanza
Chicagoland area
Busco la genealogia de estos Tomas Macias Valadez y Antonia Perez tuvieron por lo menos 4 hijos JOseph bautizado 26 dic 1676, Maria b 1 oct 1682, Cristobal 8 oct 1684 y mi antepasada Ines Perez bautizada 23 feb 1687 todos en Aguascalientes.
Esta ultima Ines Perez (utilizo apellido de su madre) caso Joseph Ponce el 18 de abril de 1706 en Aguascalientes tuvieron varios hijos entre otros mi antepasada Mariana Perez fallecida 30 de enero de 1748 en Ags. casada con Miguel Martinez de Sotomayor no tengo matrimonio de estos pero la partida de defuncion identifica los padres de Mariana Perez como JOseph Ponce y Ines Perez.
Gracias,
Daniel
Hello to all friends from NuestrosRanchos:
I am about to start an investigation of the QUIRARTE genealogy of
Nochistlan, Zacatecas.
My research pretend to cover to different time lines:
1 - The oldest reference I have is from my grandparents Hermenegildo
Quirarte and Gumara Ruiz.
I have the bautism record of Hermenegildo, from April 13, 1858.. This
Bautism record states his Father was Refugio Quirarte and his mother was
Juana Romo.
From Gumara Ruiz I have not found any record yet.
I never heard about brothers, sisters, cousins or uncles or other close
relatives on the Quirarte side out of a couple of old aunts named Marta Ruiz
and Amalia Ruiz Quirarte.
So I would like to get your advice in how and where to start digging
information.
2 - The second research focus in more recent happenings .
Hermenegildo and Gumara had two daughters and one son. Daughters were Maria
Quirarte Ruiz, Clotilde Evelia Quirarte Ruiz and Cesar Quirarte Ruiz.
Cesar Quirarte Ruiz (my father) was the younger . He was born in 1901 and
was a recognized violinist. He was for manuy years the first violin of the
National Philarmonic Orchestra of Mexico and later Director of the Simphonic
Orchestra of Jalapa, Veracruz .
His sister Clotilde Evelia Quirarte Ruiz was the first women born in the
State of Zacatetas awarded with a Masters and a Doctorate degree. Her
achivements were recognized by the Congress of the State of Zacatecas.
Clotilde wrote several books about the story and language of Nochistlan,
that I would like to find.
The three brothers left Nochistlan very young after the Mexican revolution
ended and settle in Mexico City, where they study and work.
I also have two copies of the Bauptism record of Maria Quirarte Ruiz.
Both with the name of Ma. Raquel Quirarte. One dated 26 Dec 1893 and the
other dated 6 March 1895.
I recall that my father Cesar Quirarte Ruiz told me he has another brother
born and died before he was born.This boy was Christianed Cesar.
So if there were two brothers named Cesar, perhaps they also have two girls
named Maria. Once the first passed away the second was born and also
received the same name of Maria..
My research is motivated by the fact I just discovered that in a small town
close to Nochistlan, named RANCHO ACULCO, the Public pre-school has been
named: Escuela Cesar Quirarte Ruiz.
I want to investigate if the name of the school is related to my father and
if so, why?
I called the Presidencia Municipal and nobody was able to explain me why the
school has that name.
Any help you can provide me in this subject will be very much appreciated.
Gracias y saludos
Salvador Quirarte
squirartetcn@gmail.com
Hi everyone. I'm new to the group and I am excited to be a member.
I'm looking for any relatives of my Grandfather. Here is what I have so far.
My grandfather is Tiburcio Fernandez Luna. He was baptized on 16 Aug 1885 as Jose Tiburcio De Luna in Adjuntas del Refugio, Zacatecas, Mexico but was born on 11 Aug 1885 in Malanoche, Valparaiso, Zacatecas, Mexico. He first married Antonia Hernandez in 1910 and had three children, Euphemia Luna (b. 16 Aug 1915; d. before 1918), Simona Luna (b. 28 Oct 1913; d. 1920 in Texas) and another aunt who is still living. He married my grandmother Vicenta/Vienta Robles on 15 Feb 1918 and they had another 10 kids.
His known siblings are:
(1)Lino Luna (Jose Lino De Luna) born 1882 & baptized on 23 Sep 1882 in La Purisima, Valparaiso, Zacatecas, Mexico. Was married to Estefana Resendes and I believed he died on January 1967 in San Antonio, Bexar, Texas.
(2)Miguel Luna (Jose Miguel De Luna) born on 29 Sep 1892 in Malanoche, baptized on 02 Oct 1892 in Adjuntas del Refugio, Zacatecas. He wife's name was Louisa. Death date is unknown and I don't know if they had any children.
(3)Martin Luna (Jose Martin De Luna) born in 1888 and baptized on 15 Jan 1888 at La Purisima, Valparaiso, Mex. He was married to Josepha Ramos and as far as I know, had 7 children who are still living.
There is a story that there was a sister as well but I have no information on her, no name, birth or death dates. I also know that all four boys came to the U.S. in 1918. All but Lino settled in California. Lino stayed in Texas.
Their parents are Salome De Luna and Monica Fernandez. I have no birth or death dates for Salome but I know his father was Bonifacio De Luna and his mother was Maria Dolores Castro. Monica was born about 1860 and died on 20 Jan 1950 in Bexar, Texas. Her parents were Eugenio Fernandez and her mother was Gerarda Pinedo.
If you think we might be related, let me know!
Hello,
I have uploaded a pdf of a map, "Plano de todos los curatos de Nueva Galicia, 1780" by Domingo Anastasio de Ponce, that includes the boundaries of the parishes of Nueva Galicia. I scanned it in from the book "Cartografía histórica de la Nueva Galicia."
You can find it here: http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/19218
Although it's difficult to identify some locations, and some of them seem geographically incorrect, i hope it's useful.
Regards, Arturo G
I, too, like Google translator and as George stated, the accelerator is NOT always entirely accurate, but is adequate enough to give you a fair understanding of the translation. Sometimes it comes out really funny! I do understand, speak and write Spanish, however, I do not use the language often enough to always remember or even know the meaning of certain words, and as with all languages, if you do not use it, you will lose it!
The Google translator does not translate very large amounts at one time. I usually do a paragraph at a time. If it does not work, cut the paragraph down some more. Or as George stated, you may want to try a website translation. I have never tried this feature.
There is a tip I would like to share. If you have added the Google toolbar in Microsoft Explorer, you can add the Google translator accelerator by going to the search arrow in that toolbar. You can then highlight a word, paragraph, or page with your left mouse button, and then right-click your mouse button. You will see an arrow on the bottom or top of the highlighted area. Click on the arrow and you will see a menu box to the right. Click on Google Translate and it will take you to a new tab (page). On the left side of that page under Google Translate, change the first box to Spanish (or whatever language you want) and in the second box click English. The translation will be appear on the right hand side of the page. You can then copy and paste the translation to wherever you want. And since it is in a new tab, you can go back and forth to the original document and the translation. A big help when trying to make heads or tails of something you just found! I cannot translate AOL email into Google translate. I just cut and paste when it's not available. I also open an additional tab with word or email where I can deposit the new translation.
Another accelerator I use is the Google maps accelerator. I can highlight the text of most cities and countries, follow the same steps above, but select the Google maps and it will give me a map (also on a new tab) where you can click out to make the map bigger or click in to make it small enough to see the streets in a city. This is a huge help when I am trying to figure out whether my relative's document info is in the right location, or if I am checking the distance between towns and cities. Plus, I often copy the map to add to my document or just print it. Saves a lot of time in not having to pull that map up again later.
To add accelerators in Windows Explorer: Go to Internet Options in the Control Panel. Click on Programs box on top, then click "Manage Add-ons". I also like to use Dictionary.com and have added as an accelerator.
Another tip is one thing I started doing several months ago on Ancestry.com. I copy all the documents I find on FamilySearch.org and paste them directly into the person's profile under "Add Story". This adds everything that is on the document for anyone else who goes into that profile, including the document location numbers that FamilySearch.org gives all their document. This is a huge help to other researchers looking for proof or connections.
Hope this info helps. If anyone else has helpful tips, I would certainly appreciate them!
Best regards,
Judith (Gerry) Marentes
I opened up the TUTRAMITEENMEXICO site and found they have a US phone
number:
1-214-872-6483. You may try to call them and see if they have english
speaking personnel to help you.
Saludos de Salvador Quirarte
2011/1/29
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> 1. Re: Copy of an original civil record-translating website (Linda)
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> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 08:28:52 -0500
> From: Linda
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> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Copy of an original civil
> record-translating website
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> Hi,
> I've tried four different translation websites and none of them could
> translate the tutramiteenmexico.com website. Can anyone show me a
> website that will translate websites for the Spainish language
> challenged?
>
> Linda
>
>
>
> >
> > Leticia, a very fast an easy way to obtain a new copy of an Acta de
> > Nacimiento from many towns in Mexico is using the Service of a
> > specialized
> > agency named: TU TRAMITE EN MEXICO. Contact them to verify if they
> > have
> > coverage in the town you need.
> >
> > Their web site is: www.tutramiteenmexico.com , so you can look what
> > you have
> > to do.
> > The payment can be done in several banks or at any Oxxo store in
> > Mexico.
> >
> > Hope this info will help your friend.
> > Saludos
> > squirarte
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 11:22:22 -0800 (PST)
> From: gpf13@aol.com
> To: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Google language tools
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> 41&845dceee54a85cd7a53e292249a4bb4e@www.nuestrosranchos.org<41%26845dceee54a85cd7a53e292249a4bb4e@www.nuestrosranchos.org>
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> Try google language tools. http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en
>
> The translation can be somewhat rough, but it is usually adequate so can
> you get a reasonable understanding of what is being said.
>
> The site will also apparently do a whole webpage, but I've not used that; I
> just cut and paste the parts I'm interested in.
>
>
> George Fulton
> Pleasanton, CA
>
>
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>
Thank you for your suggestions. None of the translation sites work
for www.tutramiteenmexico.com website. I don't think it wants to be
translated.
Linda
Can anyone tell me if Ts in the past looked like Fs sometimes? I've not
noticed it before but then again I don't have many ancestors with surnames
beginning with a T. I've come across an ancestor with what looks clearly
like Falavera, but in a sibling's record is written Talabera. This is from
the early 1800s. Thanks for any feedback.--Raquel
Hi,
I've tried four different translation websites and none of them could
translate the tutramiteenmexico.com website. Can anyone show me a
website that will translate websites for the Spainish language
challenged?
Linda
>
> Leticia, a very fast an easy way to obtain a new copy of an Acta de
> Nacimiento from many towns in Mexico is using the Service of a
> specialized
> agency named: TU TRAMITE EN MEXICO. Contact them to verify if they
> have
> coverage in the town you need.
>
> Their web site is: www.tutramiteenmexico.com , so you can look what
> you have
> to do.
> The payment can be done in several banks or at any Oxxo store in
> Mexico.
>
> Hope this info will help your friend.
> Saludos
> squirarte
I don't seem to be able to break any further than what I now have for my
Luna line. I was able to find Maria Trejo's parents (Tomas Trejo and Maria
Espinoza). Might someone recognize these names as their ancestors as well?
Felix Luna and Maria Trejo married 1851… Gregorio Herrera and Fermin
Duran married 1859
Ambrosio Luna Trejo b: 1851 and Patricia Sandoval
Atanacio Luna Trejo b: 1855 and Maria Florencia Herrera Corchado
(I am a direct descendant of this line and have much of the information)
Margarito Luna Trejo b: 1853 and Regina Herrera married in
1876
Jose Jesus Luna Herrera, October 1877
Gregorio Luna Herrera b: 1878
Mi búsqueda de mis antepasados culmina por falta de más datos, en mi ascendiente Lorenzo Alvarez. Encuentro su boda en 1585 en lo que hoy es Lagos de Moreno Jalisco.
¿Alguien de ustedes tiene alguna sugerencia?
Gracias
Juan Ramón Alvarez
Leticia, a very fast an easy way to obtain a new copy of an Acta de
Nacimiento from many towns in Mexico is using the Service of a specialized
agency named: TU TRAMITE EN MEXICO. Contact them to verify if they have
coverage in the town you need.
Their web site is: www.tutramiteenmexico.com , so you can look what you have
to do.
The payment can be done in several banks or at any Oxxo store in Mexico.
Hope this info will help your friend.
Saludos
squirarte
2011/1/26
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> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 00:11:33 -0800 (PST)
> From: marionicia@yahoo.com.mx
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> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Copy of an original civil record
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> Hello everybody.
>
> Well, I don?t know which is the appropiate forum to place my request so
> appologize in advance.
>
> A lady friend of mine was born in Jer?cuaro, Guanajuato and needs a copy of
> his civil born record.
>
> She actually has it but with some mistakes, considered mistakes by the
> person attending in Registro Civil in Ensenada, Baja California, where she
> lives, so she is thinking she needs to travel to Jer?cuaro, Guanajuato.
>
> The copy she has is old and is handwritten, so maybe the mistakes where
> made by the person who made the copy from the original.
>
> This are the mistakes so far:
>
> name written as: Ma. de Lourdes Malag?n, the surname of the mother is
> omitted.
> a second time her name is written as: M. de Lourdes, letter "a" after M is
> omitted.
>
> In fact her father?s second name is Mondrag?n, and all his brothers and
> sisters are Mondrag?n except her. The good thing she has not to change it
> because her father?s second name in such record is written as Malag?n, so
> she is not worried about this mistake.
>
> Jer?cuaro is a Municipality in Guanajuato.
>
> What is to do? She hopes to get a fotostatic copy of the original record in
> the book to check if the same mistakes are in it.
>
> Or she wants to know if there is a person in Jer?cuaro who do this job and
> get and send her a good, and better if digitalized, record.
>
> And if so, how much would be the cost and send the payment instead of
> traveling from Ensenada to Jer?cuaro.
>
> Thank you for your attention. Leticia Leon Morales
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 08:59:53 -0800 (PST)
> From: gpf13@aol.com
> To: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Copy of original civil record
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> The best way for your friend to start would be to find out if there is a
> process for correcting errors in records. She should be able to find out by
> visiting the local registrar in the municipality where she lives.
>
> If it is possible, it may require an affidavit or other document, such as a
> sworn statement, from someone who has personal knowledge of what the record
> should be. The local registrar should be able to answer this question.
>
> George Fulton
> Pleasanton, CA
>
>
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