Ancestry.mx Mexican records

Hello everyone,
I always thought that getting a paid subscription to Ancestry.com was not useful since most of what they have from Mexico you can search for free on Familysearch, but last night I tried their free access offer that other NuestrosRancheros have mentioned and I kept finding record after record that I didn't have. It seems they have indexed a lot or records that Familysearch hasn't indexed yet, or at least hadn't the last time I checked. All the ones I have found so far are civil records from the 20th Century, and I have tied a lot of lose ends. Totally worth it.
Just go to Ancestry.mx, logon with your regular Ancestry.com credentials and see if you find anything interesting. Free access to Mexican records is available until Día de Muertos, Monday November 2nd.
Have a nice search!
Victoriano Navarro

Alonso

Danny as promised here are some of the Alonsos
the first Ceria Alonso (LKM3-SXQ) daughter of Ricardo Alonso and Maria Mercedes Lopes
sister of Maria de Grasia Lopes who in her second marriage married Cruz Alonso.they are in the 1930 census in Azogueros, Salinas, SLP.

The third important Alonso is Petra Alonso 1760 (LKYS-XJK)married to Manuel Rodriguez. I hit a brick wall.

Hope you can help me. Thanks,

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Researching De Alba and Cervantes of Jalisco, Mexico

I have been working on this line for many years, but hit a brick wall a couple of years ago with extending the family lines back further. Here is the marriage record that is the last of the documented information on the family:

Francisco Cervantes married Maria de Alva on 15 Oct 1614 in Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco, México. His father is listed as Pedro Cervantes, no mother listed. Her parents were listed as Alonso de Alva and Leonor de Retamosa. Anyone familiar or connected with this lines, I would be happy to exchange notes or data. You can contact me at juanik979@att.net. Thanks

FW: Somos Primos November 2015

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From: mimilozano@somosprimos.com [mailto:mimilozano@somosprimos.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 1:15 AM
To: mimilozano@aol.com
Subject: Somos Primos November 2015

http://somosprimos.com/sp2015/spnov15/spnov15.htm

Dear Primos, Friends, and Family:

The month of November, a wonderful reminder about what is important in
life: family and friends.
If we are also enjoying good health, we are indeed blessed.

This year, I have even more reasons to be grateful; an important west coast heritage project has successfully come together and resulted in a Unit of Study which will enlarge historic understanding of the Spanish/Mexican colonizers in a more positive, inclusive manner.

Historically, the interrelationships between the early California native tribes and the Spanish colonizers in California has not been presented with respect for both sides.

Demeaning the natives and demonizing the Spanish clearly reinforced the American Manifest Destiny perspective of California as an uncivilized wilderness in need and deserving of invasion.

Debuting November 5th at an event at the Heritage Museum of Orange County is a 4th Grade Unit of Study prepared by Santa Ana Unified School District, CA, Common Core Curriculum specialists, Marta Moyer and Jennifer Wood:

California Bilingual Constitution, 1849.

Big Idea (Enduring Understanding) : This is the goal . .
Native Californians, Californios, and newly arriving immigrants joined together in giving structure and shape to California.
Essential Questions: Children will be discussing . . .
1. Prior to the 1850s, why did CA attract a diverse population?
2. How did internal and external factors affect the culture and economics of CA?
3. How were the contributions of the Spanish and Mexican people validated in the creation of the CA Constitution?

Among other discussions, the unit includes the traditional Spanish/Mexican laws observing women's legal and property, and anti-slave laws which proceeded those of the United Sates.

As you know Somos Primos is divided by location and subject to
facilitate speed reading for busy readers. Although the Unit of Study,
California Bilingual Constitution, 1849 is about California history, the its coastal location, and the presence of gold profoundly affected U.S.
the westward movement, California and its people need to be understood.

For too long the East Coast perspective of the building of our nation has dominated the general sentiments. Our ancestor's contributions have been ignored. It is needful for their contributions to be honored. I am thankful to be able to say that this Unit of Study moves in that direction.

Read more about how the Unit was developed, who is responsible, and about the November 5th meeting in California. If you have primos and friends who live in Southern California, they may want to attend.

God bless America, and enjoy the activism of your primos.
Mimi

TABLE OF CONTENTS

UNITED STATES
Celebrating the Hispanic Legacy of Valor during Hispanic Heritage Month Celebrating California's Birthdate, written and illustrated by Eddie Martinez América Española by José Antonio López To those Latinos who can't speak Spanish by John Paul Brammer Pew Spanish Language Future

What's Wrong with this Picture? By Ray John de Aragon La Leyenda Negra, Series 4, By Felipe de Ortego y Gasca
"That One May Smile and Smile and be a Villain [Still]"
Labor Day passed here without fanfare by Herman Sillas LULAC and Orgullosa Celebrate Latina's Contributions to American

Linda Mazon Gutierrez: 2015 Phoenix Advocate of the Year by LATINA Style Audrey Esparza, newcomer to primetime Mexican Animated, Un Gallo' Con Muchos Huevos Racks Up Big in Box Office The Latino Lens, National Association of Latino Independent Producers Oscar Manuel Laurel from Laredo, Texas, distinguished career Truth Bomb: Disastrous Economic "Recovery" By Jason W. Stevens Latinas & Success: 14 inspiring professional Latinas share principles to succeed

HERITAGE PROJECTS
Three Rivers eager to whitewash civil rights watershed by Elaine Ayala
562 federally-recognized tribes
Juana, You Will Always Live . . .Author Paul. O. Briones Newest educational initiative from the TSHA, WEBINARS Past Forward, A Conference of the National Trust for Historic Preservation New leadership at Presente.org.
Cuenta Conmigo Fundraising campaign

HISTORIC TIDBITS
Japanese Surrender - Amazing Footage Sept 2, 1945.
The American civil war, then and now
La vuelta a España de Cuba, Puerto Rico y Filipinas September 29th, 1856 -- First Polish Church in American Consecrated October 1st, 1837 -- General Texas Land Office opens Session Recordings from 2015 National Rosenwald Schools Conference Killing Zapata Celebrations of the 500 years Fundación Puerta de América

HISPANIC LEADERS
Louise Ano Nuevo Kerr, Pioneer Chicana Historian 1938-2015
Latino Muralist 'Antonio Ramos' 1988-2015 Alex Nieto, Native American Activist 1977 - 2015
Yolie Hernandez, una Comadre October 7, 2015
Larry Kirkpatrick, Texas Historian and Researcher 1943 - 2015

LATINO PATRIOTS
Worn Out Flags and Eyesore for Vetsy Dianne de Guzman Tortillas in Vietnam, all in 1968 by Luis Ramirez Borinqueneers Congressional Gold Medal Alliance

EARLY LATINO PATRIOTS
Order of Granaderos y Damas de Gálvez in Washington, D.C.
Heritage Project: Bernardo de Gálvez Statue Plaza.
Spanish Adelantados, not Conquistadores

SURNAMES
Descendents of Governor Juan Bautista Elguezabal Los Sánchez Navarro Los Ponce de León

DNA
DNA from 4,500-year-old Ethiopian reveals surprise about ancestry of Africans

FAMILY HISTORY
Establish cyberspace communication with town where heritage originates Genealogy by Barry, October 9, 2015

EDUCATION
Carnegie Corporation of New York 2015 Academic Leadership Awards Ethnic Studies for All White House selects Latino Scholarship Directory as Education Bright Spot Common Core Principles A Breakthrough: The Mexican American Digital History Project

CULTURE
Sergio Hernandez discusses his art as an instrument of Chicano activism.
Leticia Lebron aka LAK6, the latest superhero from Darryl Makes Comics How Native Speakers Ruined Spanish for Everyone Else by Jonathan Marcantoni “Political Salsa y Más” blog

BOOKS AND PRINT MEDIA
ISLA, The International Society of Latino Authors NNPA and NAHP Join Forces to Create National Advertising Task Force New America Media Luis Guzman to receive NALIP Latino Lens Legacy Award A Landmark Tejana Thesis

ORANGE COUNTY, CA
Nov 5th: Remembering California's Bilingual Constitution Nov 7th: San Juan Capistrano Celebration of Life Nov 7th: 2015 LULAC Orange County Eight Hispanic Women of the Year Nov 14th: SHHAR: Margie de la Torre Aguirre, Origins of LULAC, Initial
Cause for Involvement in Orange County & LULAC's Relevance Today Photo from SHHAR October meeting
Film: "On Two Fronts: Latinos & Vietnam."
What is the Grand Jury?

LOS ANGELES COUNTY
The House of Aragon by Michael S. Perez, Chapter 12: A Candle Lit, a Flame Extinguished October 29th: Raul Anguiano's Centennial VIP Reception Maria Guirado de Downey, 7th First Lady of California Fort Moore gets a special visitor by Marilyn Mills Chicano Moratorium Panel was Held October 20 L.A. River Habitat Restoration by Lucy Guanuna History of Olvera Street grapevines

CALIFORNIA
Nov 4 and Nov 10: Paul Espinosa Film Series Nov 9: Spain, Our Forgotten Ally in the American Revolutionary War Juan Rodríguez Cabrillo Fernando Javier de Rivera y Moncada The Californios: In the Face of Conquest Garcia-Romero Family Outing Return to Delano: 50th Anniversary of Delano Grape Strike by Maria E.
Garcia
Del Día de la Raza y el mes de la Hispanidad, San Diego The Plan de Santa Bárbara and the take-over of Chicano Park, San Diego Mike Acosta and Others' Childhood Memories, through the Southwest, between 1940-1970s

NORTHWESTERN, US
Alma L. Pond Mormon - Mexican Missionary Trailblazers - Faustino Gracia Almaguer 1880-19??
A Crash Course on Mormon Cursing

SOUTHWESTERN, US
The Lady in Blue, Sor Maria Jesus de Agreda Billy the Kid and Family Memories by Ray John de Aragon A Little California History . . . Big Surprise ending Some Early Mora, New Mexico History: Chapters 10-12 by Louis F. Serna Memorial Crosses Along Tijuana-San Diego Border The Deportation of Innocence The Refusal of Carmelita Torres
Chihuahua: King of NAFTA Chile

TEXAS
36th TX State Hispanic Genealogical & Historical Conference Oct 2nd, 1835 - Texas Revolution begins at Gonzales Oct 13th, 1845 -- Voters overwhelmingly approve annexation Some History of the Gutierrez Family in Cameron County
and Later Harlingen Compiled by Norman Rozeff Sembradores de Aztlan Oral History Project Henri Castro: Empresario colonization of the Republic of Texas Foot and Wagon Bridge, Laredo, Texas, 1899 Guerrero Viejo (Tamaulipas) in the 1980s and 1990s by Gilberto Quezada Preserving Early Texas History, September 23, Lardo Rotary Club First Families, Lest We Forget

MIDDLE AMERICA
Oklahoma Black board from 100 years ago…

EAST COAST
Girl breaks security barrier, hands Pope Francis letter The 40th Anniversary National Meeting of the Granaderos y Damas de Gálvez
held in Washington D.C. Oct -9/10th September 8, 1565 founding of the San Agustín de la Florida.
King Felipe VI and Queen Letizia at Galvez Portrait Tristan De Luna In Florida, New World History

AFRICAN-AMERICAN
Rag Radio Podcast: Michael Hurd on Black History in Texas Our Prison Debate Team Beat Harvard's, Here's How We Did It

INDIGENOUS
1759, Indians defeat Spanish force on Red River 1844, Sam Houston and the widow of Ben-Ash Mexican site yields new details of sacrifice of Spaniards Legends & Myths of the Popol-Vuh by Carlotta Giangualano Why Do So Many Americans Think They Have Cherokee
Blood? The history of a myth by Gregory D. Smithers

SEPHARDIC
Michael S. Perez and his new Yamaka, SHHAR
Jewish Roots of the Colonial Spanish Southwest Rediscover your Hebrew roots with the Illuminated Torah:
Read God's Word in Hebrew and English Israel’s memorial to 9/11 Sephardic Hispanic Heritage: 13 Facts About ‘Latino Jews’
Portugal Granting Citizenship to Exiled Sephardic Jews Sephardic Jews in Galitzian Poland and Environs The End of Yemen's Jews Shanghai Jewish Ghetto

ARCHAEOLOGY
Vast replica recreates prehistoric Chauvet cave

MEXICO
Colonial church emerges from falling Mexican reservoir Antonio Guerrero Aguilar Presentation, Universidad Autonoma de Zacatecas Spain is no longer the center of the Spanish culture Networking & outreach: Sociedad Genealógica y de Historia Familiar de México Tree murals in Colonial Mexican Art The Tiled Churches of Puebla: San Francisco 169th Aniversario de la Batalla de Monterrey de 1846 Al santo de la paz y la alegría: San Francisco de Asís Sabina Loghin: Romanian immigrant to hybrid artist by Luisa Muniz Matrimonio del Peninsular Don Julio Carabaza y Doña Cristina Ruby Families of Galeana, Nuevo Leon, Mexico, Volume Five Bautismo de María Luisa Saturnina Hidalgo Y Los Insurgentes en la Provincia de Coahuila El matrimonio de Valentín E. Wynter y Clotilde González Acta de defunción del General Francisco Villa El Dr. Brooks II Coloquio, Genealogía e Historia de la Familia efectuado en Aguascalientes On the Bacon Trail, Fighting for an Education by Rodolfo F. Acuña

CARIBBEAN REGION
Las Raíces de la Conquista de México

CENTRAL & SOUTH AMERICA
Cotopaxi volcano in Ecuador erupting
La India Catalina: Indian Princess, caught between two cultures.
Flora Tristán boarded Le Mexicain on April 7, 1833 Two Indigenous Solar Engineers Changed Their Village in Chile By Marianela Jarroud

PHILIPPINES
Gender Equality, Part 2: by Eddie AAA Calderón, Ph.D.
Employment Opportunity in the World, the Case of Filipino Nurses By Eddie AAA Calderón, Ph.D.
Joseph L. Bautista
US to Protect Child Farmworkers From Pesticides

SPAIN
La historia en el cine
El Mirador Espagnol
Orígenes de la Leyenda Negra
Fuente: "El Arcón de la Historia de España"
El Mirador Espagnol
Orígenes de la Leyenda Negra
Fuente: "El Arcón de la Historia de España"
El monolito de las cabezas cortadas de Dingle El secreto catalán de Moctezuma:
El linaje de Moctezuma por Jordi Soler

INTERNATIONAL
Christians being attacked in German's Sharia Refugee Shelters by Soeren Kern The 43: Story of How UK Jews Fought a Wave of Post-War Anti-Semitism by Cahal Milmo The "Islamic Inquisition" and the Blasphemy Police Chamorro, native language of Guam and Northern Mariana Islands.
Exploraciones ibericas Publicaciones de la Hakluyt Society de Londres

Loma Larga (Ocotlan), Jalisco *and* Aguascalientes photos

Does anyone in this group known anything of Loma Larga in Jalisco? It is near Ocotlan. It has shown up on some of the baptismal/birth records in one of my lines. I've googled it but am finding very little online about the place, so I'm hoping someone here might know more about the place or point out where I might be able to learn more. To be more specific, I'm interested in learning about the history of the place not the current situation there.
Also, during my internet surfing I ran across someone selling some historical photos of Aguascalientes. I'm sharing the link in case anyone here would be interested. As far as I can tell this is still an active offer that was posted in June (but keep in mind that my spanish is limited):http://area1.doplim.com.mx/vendo-coleccion-de-tarjetas-postales-antigua…

Cindy (Barela) Fahrbach
email: genie_research@hotmail.com
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Researching: Banegas, Barela, Cutler,
De La O, Fahrbach, Jimenez, Keller,
May, Navarro, Starnes, Utley, Ybarra
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Texas Manifest Coding

Has anyone researched the coding notation on a Texas Manifest written years later on the same manifest? I'm curious as to what this means ( see bottom writing on attachment). I'm hoping it means my grandfather was alive all through 1954. The last record I found of him is dated 1919.

912/3 121: I - 404 lwn - San Antonio 9/15/52

I have similar coding on the bottom of my grandmother's 1919 manifest listing a date of 1932 and "Dallas".... and she was actually living in Dallas at that particular time noted.

Great-grands in Spanish

Hi,
I know that great-grandfather/mother is bisabuelo/a in Spanish, but what is the proper way for saying, for example, 3rd great-grandfather? Or third time great-grandfather? (GGG-grandfather) I'd like to send a message to a potential cousin and my limited spanish vocabulary doesn't reach that far. I wasn't able to find it in my spanish-english dictionary.
Google translate is suggesting: tres veces bisabuelo. Is that correct?
Thanks in advance!

Cindy (Barela) Fahrbach
email: genie_research@hotmail.com
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Researching: Banegas, Barela, Cutler,
De La O, Fahrbach, Jimenez, Keller,
May, Navarro, Starnes, Utley, Ybarra
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Research Digest, Vol 117, Issue 20 gratis great father

Hi Cindy:

First come your padre than follow abuelo, bisabuelo, tratará-abuelo, tratará-tratara-abuelo and than add a tratara after each generation. Each tatara indicates a further generation.

Great father = abuelo
Great great father = bisabuelo
Great great great father = tratara abuelo = padre del bisabuelo
Great great great great father = tratara tatara abuelo = abuelo del bisabuelo

I read that after the tratará-abuelo follow chozno, but I think there ist a word that we mexican can generally do not understand.

Cheers,

Martha

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Dias de la Huerta

I can only make out the names of Francisco Dias de Huerta y Juana Lopez de ???
father Sebastian Dias de Huerta is married to Ana ????

And Juana's Parents are Francisco Lopez de ??? with Felipa Gutierrez de Guanajuato

The following is the IM of 1698. Does anyone know their names? I couldn't find them in Familysearch. Thanks!!

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-B7TH-G?cc=1804458&wc=3PS9-…

Research Digest, Vol 117, Issue 18

Encounter informacion sober Melchor Perez de la Torre ,padre de Catalina Mejia de la Torre casada con mi ancestro directo Pedro de Ledezma, Melchor Perez de la Torre ,hijo de Don Diego Perez de la Torre juez de reciedencia bajo Don Nuño de Guzman el conquistador y primer gobernador de Nueva Galicia y lo sucedio a Don Nuño de Guzman como el segundo gobernador de Nueva Galicia.
Melchor Perez de la Torre casado con su Esposa legitima Maria Alvarez, tuvieron tres hijas, Catalina Mejia de la Torre casada con Pedro de Ledezma,

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> I have not researched the De Leon in my direct line. Maternal 7th Great
> Grandmother Rosalia De Leon (abt 1650) married Sebastian Coronado (abt 1650
> in Aguascalientes) they had several children including Nicolas Coronado de
> Leon who married Antonia Gonzales de la Vega. Hope it helps a little.
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> On familysearch.org you can find this juan Antonio married to Rivas 3 of the
> children were born in san felipe and 1 (questionable child) was born in san
> luis potosi. There are others names juan Antonio (9NS1-S7P BORN 1695),
> K862-39S born 1703 and M9CJ-P5X born in 1697. my relatives are Juan Gallegos
> de Cabrera MGM2-N78 born 1659 married to Petra Marmolejo. they have a son
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Carvajal - (Zacatecas) Maria de los Angeles Carvajal

I am researching Maria de los Angeles Carvajal. Just saw her name last night, from the new records at Ancestry.Com
b ~1800-1811
d. April 3, 1873 at Hacienda Mirador, Valparaiso, Zacatecas
The death registry reports she is the daughter of Trinidad Carvajal and Andrea Rodriguez.
Married to Francisco Pasillas.

Thank you to all the indexers!

Juan Antonio Gallegos and Antonia De Ribas

I have hit a brick wall for several months. I'm trying to find information about my 6th great grandfather Juan Antonio Gallegos (born abt 1690 - 1700) and his wife Antonia De Ribas. I have found several of their sons and daughters, including my 5th great grandfather, Miguel Deonicio Gallegos; they all were baptized in San Felipe, Guanajuato and born in La Quemada, Guanajuato and El Estano, Guanajuato. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Testamento 1676 Sombrerete, Zacatecas, Mexico of Pedro Dias De Llano

There is this document reference number: CONTRATACION,5360,N.81

For Pars: http://www.archivesportaleurope.net/web/guest

It has a testamento that starts Imagen 25 for Pedro Dias De Llano, who is of Asturias, that passed away at Villa De Llerenas of Sombrerete, Zacatecas, Mexico.

Can someone help deciper this one line? "En La Noa......." year 1606

It is the year 1606 Pasajero de Indias documdent for "Joan De Angon" on the very top of first page there is a line which has the name of the ship he traveled on which says:

"En La Noa............"

I can make out the other words which is the name of the ship. "Noa" is the class of ship. so that is how I know right away it is talking about the name of the ship he traveled on.

Here is a copy of first page:

http://oi58.tinypic.com/rsbqeo.jpg

The link:

http://pares.mcu.es/ParesBusquedas/servlets/Control_servlet?accion=3&&t…

Reference number for Pars website: CONTRATACION,5295,N.10

http://www.archivesportaleurope.net/web/guest

I have another way to find the name of the ship where Joan De Angon traveled on.

You can do a search for "Lista De Pasajeros" and add the year 1606 in the Pars website.

When you do a search for "Lista De Pasajeros" in Pars. It gives you a number of documents that contains names of ships and lists of names of people that was on board each ship.

Maria Marcela de los Dolores Delgado

Maria was to marry Jose Serapia Escalante vuido de Juana Juliana Monsebais but she passed before the six month penance was given for primer grado. I couldn't read exactly how it was primer grado but it sounded as if she had had an illicit relationship before not sure with whom. Thanks for the help

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15239-47745-59?cc=1804458 : accessed 17 October 2015), Pinos > San Matías > Información matrimonial 1799 > image 10 of 608; paróquias Católicas, Zacatecas (Catholic Church parishes, Zacatecas).

Beatriz de Mayorga daughter of Alvaro Marin de Peñaloza

Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

I found the Will of my ancestor Beatriz de Mayorga on the Aguascalientes site and it mentions her son my direct ancestor Joseph Martin de Sotomayor. Could someone possibly tell me what it says about Joseph Martin de Sotomayor. I put giant yellow parenthesis around the passage.

Danny C. Alonso

Cuquio baptisms

I'm looking for the baptism of an illegitimate child that was probably
baptized in Cuquio around 1785 -1790. His name was Atanacio, son of
Felipa, and the last name might have not been given, or if given, it
was probably Peres, Rivera, Velasquez, or Gonzalez. Atanacio might
have been listed as Indio or mestizo.

It seems that the only available films are are for legitimate children
(e.g., "Bautismos 1772-1788" & "Bautismos 1789-1796").

Does anyone know illegitimate births were included in other Cuquio
church books, or perhaps went to another town for such a baptism?

Arturo G

Chavez from Ameca, Calvillo, possibly Jalpa?

I am trying to go further on my Chavez family. I hope any of these names sound familiar to someone out there. My ancestor Cesario Chávez married Maria Paula Lopez y Ayon in Ameca on 17 September 1800. Through his marriage certificate I found he was born around 1762 in a place called Valle de Huejucar which I found, thanks to info from other members, is the same place as today’s Calvillo, Aguascalientes. His parents are mentioned as José María Chávez and María de la Encarnación Velasco. I haven’t been able to find his baptism certificate from that time since the records from Calvillo don’t go that far back.

On the other hand, I found two baptism records from nearby Tabasco, Zacatecas who may be Cesario’s sisters:

Luisa Feliciana Chavez, born in “el puesto del Capulin”, baptized on 1 sep 1748. Her parents were Joseph Chavez and Maria Velasco.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15087-18372-13?cc=1804458&wc…

Jospha Maria Gregoria Chavez, born in “Ojo Caliente”, baptized on 27 apr 1754. Her parents were Joseph de Chavez and Ma. de la Encarnacion Velasco. Guejucar, aka Calvillo, is also mentioned in this record.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15087-19620-14?cc=1804458&wc…

I assume Ojo Caliente is the same place found near Calvillo, but what about El Capulin? Is there a location with that name in that area?

Are there other parishes in the area where I should look as well during this time period?

While browsing in Ameca, I found a marriage record for Jose Maria Chavez and Maria Rita Vitalia Alvarez on 15 may 1790. He is mentioned to be from Jalpa and born around 1768 and has the same parents as my ancestor Cesario Chavez and the two girls previously mentioned:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18566-73201-19?cc=1874591&wc…

Unfortunately, I just realized that there are no records of Jalpa for that time period, either. Am I getting out of luck? I will appreciate any advice.

Steve in NC