Nuestros Ranchos Site

A small group of Nuestros Ranchos members, residing in Northern California and the Bay Area, meet quarterly to discuss genealogy research. For our last meeting we had a tour of the Bancroft Library led by the Curator of the Western Americana Collection. We normally rotate the location of the meetings.

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Meeting in Northern California

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I want to come but would prefer if we could meet halfway say in Kansas.
what do you think?

joseph

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Joseph Puentes
http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)

MariaCortez wrote:
> A small group of Nuestros Ranchos members, residing in Northern California and the Bay Area, meet quarterly to discuss genealogy research. For our last meeting we had a tour of the Bancroft Library led by the Curator of the Western Americana Collection. We normally rotate the location of the meetings.
>
> Our next meeting is scheduled for March 17th, from 10:30 am to 1:30 pm. The location will be the Raley's Event Center in Elk Grove. All Nuestros Ranchos members are welcome to join us. If you are interested in attending and would like more information, please contact me.
>
> Maria Cortez

Meeting in Northern California

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> That would be quite a commute! We'll have to make it a point to go to the
> next Hispanic Genealogy Conference in SLC this year. Has the date been set
> yet?
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> Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 16:13:31 -0500
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> I want to come but would prefer if we could meet halfway say in Kansas.
> what do you think?
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> joseph
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Meeting in Northern California

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Yay!!!! I vote for Kansas...it's halfway! Marge:)

On Feb 3, 2007, at 3:13 PM, Joseph Puentes wrote:

> I want to come but would prefer if we could meet halfway say in Kansas.
> what do you think?
>
> joseph
>
> ===================
>
> Joseph Puentes
> http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
> http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)
>
>
> MariaCortez wrote:
>> A small group of Nuestros Ranchos members, residing in Northern
>> California and the Bay Area, meet quarterly to discuss genealogy
>> research. For our last meeting we had a tour of the Bancroft Library
>> led by the Curator of the Western Americana Collection. We normally
>> rotate the location of the meetings.
>>
>> Our next meeting is scheduled for March 17th, from 10:30 am to 1:30
>> pm. The location will be the Raley's Event Center in Elk Grove. All
>> Nuestros Ranchos members are welcome to join us. If you are
>> interested in attending and would like more information, please
>> contact me.
>>
>> Maria Cortez

Meeting in Northern California

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Joseph, Kansas is a great place. Seeing that I'm from Kansas. :-)
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Puentes"
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Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Meeting in Northern California

>I want to come but would prefer if we could meet halfway say in Kansas.
> what do you think?
>
> joseph
>
> ===================
>
> Joseph Puentes
> http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
> http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)
>
>
> MariaCortez wrote:
>> A small group of Nuestros Ranchos members, residing in Northern
>> California and the Bay Area, meet quarterly to discuss genealogy
>> research. For our last meeting we had a tour of the Bancroft Library led
>> by the Curator of the Western Americana Collection. We normally rotate
>> the location of the meetings.
>>
>> Our next meeting is scheduled for March 17th, from 10:30 am to 1:30 pm.
>> The location will be the Raley's Event Center in Elk Grove. All Nuestros
>> Ranchos members are welcome to join us. If you are interested in
>> attending and would like more information, please contact me.
>>
>> Maria Cortez

My Velasco Lines

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My Velasco lines that I've traced are Eustacia Velasco born abt. 1830 in Calvillo, Ags. and my other Velasco line is Jose Jesus Velasco born abt. 1820 also in Calvillo.I've found the marriage for Jose Jesus. On IGI, but need to order the film to find his parents.

Fiesta del 20 de Enero - Papaqui's

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http://nochistlan.gob.mx/20enero.html

Enrique,

I checked the site and under Regidor/Parque y Mercado you will find Ingeniero Hector Duran Avelar, he's my first cousin. His mom and my dad (deceased) were brother and sister. My aunt lives in San Jose 75% of the time and in Nochistlan the rest of the time.

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Air Travel Suggestion

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On this past trip to Nochistlan, instead of flying into Guadalajara, I found that flying into Aguascalientes was easier, less crowded and much closer to most of towns the nuestros ranchos group is doing research. For example, Nochistlan is one hour away, Teocalitche is 40 minutes awas, Jalostotitlan is 45 minutes, La Estancia, 45 minutes....you get the idea.

Most towns have websites maintained by the local goverment, (Presidencia) or by the Club Sociales organized by "paisanos" in the U.S.

Alicia, have you been to Nochistlan? South San Francisco and San Jose have large Nochistlense communities.

Alicia Carrillo wrote:
Enrique,

Thanks for posting this, maybe someday I will get the opportunity to be there for this festival.

Alicia

----- Original Message ----
From: enrique legaspi
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Saturday, February 3, 2007 5:09:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Fiesta del 20 de Enero - Papaqui's

I begin to write a summary of the the San Sebastian Feast, but my attempts to describe it could not do it justice to the essence of the feast. Instead, I suggest you go to the link above which describes in Spanish the Feast, its origin and the devotion of the people in Nochistlan.

On nuestros ranchos site I posted some photos I took of the feast.

enjoy!

Enrique

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Santelices in Zacatecas

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Arturo,
Thank you so much. Agustina Santelices was my grandmother, and this incident is indicative of the elusiveness I've encountered tracing her family. It's interesting that this unknown procurador Santelices and Agustina's father, Francisco Santelices's Panuco marriage are the only Santelices mentioned in relation to Zacatecas. Most Santelices are either from DF or Puebla. A handful are found in GTO and Queretero. Would this procurador have been living in Zacatecas or been making his recommendation from DF? Your knowledge and opinios are greatly appreciated. Again, Arturo, thank you so much for all that you do. Alice

Jose Maria Mercado

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Thank you very much, can you check one more, Antonio Salazar 74n

Leticia Salazar

Fiesta del 20 de Enero - Fotos!

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http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/14686

pulsen (click) para ir a Nochistlan.

enrique legaspi wrote:
http://nochistlan.gob.mx/20enero.html

[Fwd: GEN-HISPANIC Digest, Vol 2, Issue 7]: Knight's Templar

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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: GEN-HISPANIC Digest, Vol 2, Issue 7
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2007 23:02:23 -0700
From: gen-hispanic-request@rootsweb.com
Reply-To: gen-hispanic@rootsweb.com

Accessing Senores de Zacatecas

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http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/15662

Arturo,
I really hate to bother you again, but I'd really like to read the Los Senores list. After I follow your instructions to Daniel and click the nuestros ranchos user's guide, the same thing happens when I click the second volume of Los Senores. A small icon at the bottom left says it is downloading from site, but where is it? Nothing appears before or after the downloading asking whether I want to open, save, etc. Please, what am I doing wrong.. Thank you so much, Alice -- arturo.ramos2@gmail.com wrote:

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Accessing Senores de Zacatecas

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Arturo, I got it to work! And what's even better, is that I found two of my family's names--Onate and Santelices! The Onates are quite well known, but the Santelices are unheard of. Anything you could tell me about Santelices 127 would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again for all you do. Alice

--- arturo.ramos2@gmail.com wrote:

From: arturoramos
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Accessing Senores de Zacatecas
Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2007 17:52:45 -0800 (PST)

Daniel:

After logging in to Nuestros Ranchos, go to the link:

Or go to Files - Books and Articles

You will see there are two files as attachments to that folder. The names are listed alphabetically with the first file A-L and the second L-Z.

You can rotate the document within Adobe. I suggest you save the file and then open it from your desktop as each one is 2MB...

If you are having trouble using the site, I suggest you download the Nuestros Ranchos User Guide which is available in the Files - References section.

Santelices in Zacatecas

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The only mention of the surname Santelices is of a procurador (attorney general) by that name (no first name given) recommending that a tribunal show leniancy to a group of miners... The source document is Archivo Historico del Palacio de la Mineria, Elecciones de 1792, decision del procurador, Mexico, 1 Dec 1792.

Camino in Zacatecas

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Arturo, At the risk of sounding totally computer illiterate, how do I view the names? I've tried clicking on the volumes and it says downloading from nuestros...but I never see anything. What am I doing wrong? Sorry, and thanks so much, Alice

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Camino in Zacatecas

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Arturo I am not very familiar with the book Senores de Zacatecas, but I did
find a name in I recognize: Mercado, Jose Maria 409n are you able to give me
any info on that name, thanks
Leticia Salazar

Jose Maria Mercado

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The name is referenced in talking about the insurgentes, or revolutionaries for Independence that graduated from the Universidad de Guadalajara...

Algunos insurgentes egresaron, no obstante, de los colegios seminarios y de la universidad de Guadalajara como Jse Maria Mercado, Jose Maria Cos, Pedro Moreno o liberales como Valentin Gomez Frias quien sera admas el representante de Zacatecas en las Cortes en 1822-1823. Castaneda (1988) refering to Castaneda, Carmen, Circulos de Poder en la Nueva Espana, Mexico, CIESAS-Porrua, 1988.

Volunteers Needed - Busco Voluntarios

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http://nochistlan.gob.mx/20enero.html

Busco voluntarios para terminar el Guia de Usuario de Nuestros Ranchos (español sigue abajo)
Volunteers needed to finish Nuestros Ranchos User Guide

Thanks to the efforts of volunteers, we got the Nuestros Ranchos User Guide started and about halfway finished last summer. The project has been sitting gathering dust and I would like to get it completed as I think it will be very useful for the new members who are not familiar with all of the functions of the site. There is a Spanish and an English version. The outlines are finished, they just need to have meat put on the bones (along with some screen prints). Please let me know if you can help...

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Fiesta del 20 de Enero - Papaqui's

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On nuestros ranchos site I posted some photos I took of the feast.

enjoy!

Enrique

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Volunteers Needed - Busco Voluntarios

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Sr. Arturo:

No se mucho de computadoras pero si en algo le puedo ayudar, me pongo a sus órdenes.

Atte.
Fernando Pérez

----- Original Message ----
From: arturoramos
To: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 5:55:39 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Volunteers Needed - Busco Voluntarios

Busco voluntarios para terminar el Guia de Usuario de Nuestros Ranchos (español sigue abajo)
Volunteers needed to finish Nuestros Ranchos User Guide

The missing sections are:

Section D.
7. Searching GEDCOM database
8. Using the Films database

Sección E. Account and File Maintenance
1. Updating your files (delete/reupload)
2. Updating your profile
3. Changing your password/username
4. Changing your mailing list subscriptions

You can find the document at:

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/14123

==ESPAÑOL==

Gracias a los esfuerzos de voluntarios, el verano pasado comenzamos y terminamos la mitad de un Guia de Usuario de Nuestros Ranchos. El proyecto quedo abandonado y me gustaría terminarlo porque creo que sera bastante útil para los nuevos miembros que no quedan familiarizados con las funciones del sitio Nuestros Ranchos. Existe una versión en español asi como una en ingles. Los esbozos quedan terminados y falta solamente añadir texto (y algunas imágenes). Por favor dejenme saber si pueden ayudar con este proyecto.

Las secciones que faltan son las siguientes:

Seccion D.
7. Búsquedas en la base de datos GEDCOM
8. Usar la base de datos de rollos de microfilmación

Sección E. Mantenimiento de cuenta y archivos
1. Actualizar sus archivos (borrar/montar nueva versión)
2. Actualizar su perfil
3. Cambiar su nombre de usuario o contraseña
4. Cambiar sus subscripciones de listas de correo-e

You can find the document at:

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/14123

Voluntario para Guia de Usuario

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Fernando,

Gracias por la oferta de ayudar. Podrias traducir el documento de ingles a espanol si logramos escribirlo en ingles? Esa es una tarea que no requiere mucho conocimiento de computadoras en si, pero si un poco de terminos tecnicos (del internet). Creo que Victor, quien traducio lo que ya tenemos, lo hizo muy bien y leyendo lo que el hizo se pueden aprender muchos de los terminos si no los sabes.

Que te parece? Te animas?

Lobato and Tafoya

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Does anyone have Lobato or Tafoya from Michoacan or Sombrete?

Espazo in a baptismal document

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http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/15658

I have the listing of racial descriptions, but I have just found a description that I do not have referenced and could not find a translation out on the Internet. Is anyone familiar with the term "Espazo." It is the racial description on the baptismal document of Serapia Ledesma Baldivia born September 8, 1832 in San Miguel El Alto, Jalisco. Any help would be appreciated.

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Espazo in a baptismal document

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Sorry my english.

The only thing that I could find was on the Wikipedia espazo is in Gallego lenguage, and it means a space but I couldn´t find something about racism.

Regards
Fernando Pérez

----- Original Message ----
From: Maureen Bejar
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 9:12:02 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Espazo in a baptismal document

Maureen Bejar

Espazo

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Maureen:

Can you scan and upload the document? Could it by any stretch of the imagination (imagine really bad handwriting and worn out paper) be espanol and not espazo? It is strange that they were still keeping racial information in 1832. I thought the Plan de Iguala after Mexican independence banned racial classification and seperate treatment based on caste.

Espazo in baptismal documents

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Dear Arturo and Fernando:
Thank you for trying. I will scan the document. I thought the practice was banned also and for some of the documents on the film, there no racial description, but then they started again sporadically. I think maybe some of the priests did not get the message! Anyway, abbreviations were used all over this microfilm with names included, however espanol was usually abbreviated Esp. and then a small "l" above the period. I will upload a sample of that also. I was wondering if they used Espazo for a Mestizo father and an Espanol mother. The funny thing was that this was a girl, but there was an "o" at the end. For the most part they were using Mestiza for a girl and Mestizo for a boy. I could not understand why this one was Espazo and not Espaza.

Espazo

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Dear Arturo and Fernando:
I scanned two documents and tried to put them in my album, but the links did not work, so I am trying to resolve the issue. After scanning and blowing the one with Espazo up really big, I noticed something. The "J" in Jose underneath the supposed "z" in Espazo makes the "n" look like a "z". Arturo, you are correct, really bad handwriting and old documents that are bleeding through just made this hard to read. It is Espano! So sorry, but I will try to scan the documents anyway, so you might see that the racial descriptions were still going on in 1831 and 1832 at San Miguel El Alto. I will let you know the node when I successfully scan to two.

Racial descriptions in 1830 documents San Miguel El Alto

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I have scanned two baptismal documents from the 1830's of Antonio Gutierrez Gomez 1831 and Serapia Ledesma Baldivia 1832. On Serapia's if enlarged you can see the "J" in "Jose" under the "n" in "Espano" made Espano look like Espazo. In any event, you may see that the priests were still making racial distinctions at San Miguel El Alto sporadically throughout the 1830's. Please see links:

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/15657

Espazo in a baptismal document

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Would it be possible it is only careless handwritting? maybe espanol is the correct term they want to inscribe.

Fernando Perez escribió: Maureen:

Sorry my english.

The only thing that I could find was on the Wikipedia espazo is in Gallego lenguage, and it means a space but I couldn´t find something about racism.

Regards
Fernando Pérez

----- Original Message ----
From: Maureen Bejar
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 9:12:02 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Espazo in a baptismal document

Maureen Bejar

Espazo in a baptismal document

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Hello everyone,

I also have scanned birth certificates from San Miguel el Alto from the 1830's and I have not seen the word "espazo" on mine. Could it be "esposo" meaning husband?
Is there anywhere I can see the documents that you say have the word "espazo"?

Rick

Espazo turned out to be Espano

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Dear Rick:
I have downloaded Serapia's baptismal document and it was the case as Arturo suggested of really bad handwriting. One of the other letters made the "n" in Espano look like the word Espazo. Please see the link under the Albums section from my earlier posting.

Maureen Bejar

Espazo turned out to be Espano

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Maureen,

You are absolutely correct. Don't you wish they had a typewriter back then?

By the way, is this the only family in San Miguel that you're researching?
Many of my ancestors came from San Miguel, Jalos, Tepa and surroundings. I
just started my ancestor research about a year ago and if you want to we can
compare info.

Which families link you to San Miguel and Los Altos?

Rick

rickrod.com@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
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Bejar
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 4:18 PM
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Espazo turned out to be Espano

Dear Rick:
I have downloaded Serapia's baptismal document and it was the case as
Arturo suggested of really bad handwriting. One of the other letters made
the "n" in Espano look like the word Espazo. Please see the link under the
Albums section from my earlier posting.

Maureen Bejar

[Fwd: Somos Primos February 2007 Table of Contents lq4]

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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Somos Primos February 2007 Table of Contents lq4
Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 15:50:13 -0500 (EST)
From: MIMILOZANO@aol.com
To: MIMILOZANO@aol.com

Click here: Somos Primos

Books

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Some of you might be already aware of this source for books: LibrosLatinos.com
They are located in Redlands, Ca. and will ship world wide.
You can either search through their catalogues or go to their Search area and type in your area of interest (Jalisco, Zcatecas, Aguascalientes)

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Bookstores in Links - Librerias en Viculos

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I have added a section on specialty bookstores, including Borderlands, Libros Latinos and Ricardo Rodriguez's online catalogue in the links section and have made the links section bilingual (at least the category headings now dynamically get translated).

He agregado una seccion sobre librerias especializadas, incluyendo Bordelands, Libros Latinos y el catalogo virtual de Ricardo Rodriguez en la seccion de vinculos y esa seccion ahora es bilingue (por lo menos las categorias se traducen dinamicamente).

Books

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Hi
LibrosLatinos is a great bookstore!!! Run by an exceptionally nice person!!
Great books.

Mickey

-----Original Message-----
From: 1gnzlz@verizon.net
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 10:32 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Books

Some of you might be already aware of this source for books: LibrosLatinos.com
They are located in Redlands, Ca. and will ship world wide.
You can either search through their catalogues or go to their Search area and
type in your area of interest (Jalisco, Zcatecas, Aguascalientes)
You might find some books of interest to you.

Last year I bought "Jalostotitlán a Travez de Los Siglos, Vol. #1" from them.

John Gonzalez
Wildomar, CA.

Books

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John,
What was your opinion on this book as far as Genealogical information?

To me this books richness was about the history of Jalostotitlan. In my opinion if your looking for family tree's ONLY or Genealogical information then I would not recommend this book. Below is an Index of the Chapter covered in this book.

Capitulo 1 Aspectos Geograficos
Cap 2 Antecedentes Historicos
3 El Pueblo Tecuexe
4 Caxcanes, Aztecas y Chichimecas
5 La Conquista de Nueva Galicia y Jalostotitlan
6 La Guerra del Mixton
7 Consideraciones sobre la Conquista y Evangelacion
8 Jalostotitlan en el siglo XVI
9 " " XVII
10 " " XVIII
11 Jalostotitlan hasta el inicio de la guerra de Independencia
12 " " en la Guerra de Independencia

Maria Gutierrez-Uhlenburg

John Gonzalez <1gnzlz@verizon.net> wrote:
Some of you might be already aware of this source for books: LibrosLatinos.com
They are located in Redlands, Ca. and will ship world wide.
You can either search through their catalogues or go to their Search area and type in your area of interest (Jalisco, Zcatecas, Aguascalientes)
You might find some books of interest to you.

Last year I bought "Jalostotitlán a Travez de Los Siglos, Vol. #1" from them.

John Gonzalez
Wildomar, CA.

Opinion

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Hi Maria:

My personal opinion as far as Genealogical information is concerned is:

The book contains very little information as far as family trees are
concerned, but a lot of interesting information about the movements of the
founding families of "Los Altos" (page 117) Listed under "Troncos
Familiares Pricipales" are the following: 1-Lomelí, Gallo, Gonzalez.
2-Padilla, Reynoso. 3-Issasi, Serrano, SanRoman, Ortiz de Parada,
Hermosillo. 4- Perez, Franco, Padilla, Jimenez, Reynoso,Gonzalez. 5-Barba,
Gonzalez. Each Group (1through 5) in a different area of Los Altos.

I personnaly found the book valuable because it mentions the founding
families of Jalostotitlán (pgs 144-145) : Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo (B
1591) and his wife, Ana Gonzalez Florida. I have been able to trace my
direct descendency on my paternal grandfather's side all the way back to
them through LDS church records from Jalostotitlán. (11 generations plus 2
more beyond them) Of course, they were just one one of the founding
families.

I would recommend this book to anybody that either has roots from Jalos, or
is interested in learning about the history of this area of Los Altos de
Jalisco.

I have no idea what Volume II of this book covers, but I would like to find
out...Do you have it?

John González
Wildomar, CA
1gnzlz@verizon.net

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----- Original Message -----
From: "MARIA E GUTIERREZ"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Books

John,
What was your opinion on this book as far as Genealogical information?

To me this books richness was about the history of Jalostotitlan. In my
opinion if your looking for family tree's ONLY or Genealogical information
then I would not recommend this book. Below is an Index of the Chapter
covered in this book...

Opinion

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Hi John,
No, unfortunately I do not have volume II of the book Jalostotitlan A Traves De Los Siglos.

My parent's just came back from Jalisco, Mexico and my father lives in a little town next to Jalostotitlan called Teocaltitan. My father knows I have a great interest in the history and genealogy of Los Altos de Jalisco. So when I asked him if he saw any new books, he said that there was a new book coming out about Teocaltitán de Guadalupe, Jalisco.

Yes, I definately agree with you about recommending this book to anyone who has roots in this area.

Maria Gutierrez-Uhlenburg
John Gonzalez <1gnzlz@verizon.net> wrote:
Hi Maria:

My personal opinion as far as Genealogical information is concerned is:

I would recommend this book to anybody that either has roots from Jalos, or
is interested in learning about the history of this area of Los Altos de
Jalisco.

I have no idea what Volume II of this book covers, but I would like to find
out...Do you have it?

John González
Wildomar, CA
1gnzlz@verizon.net

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----- Original Message -----
From: "MARIA E GUTIERREZ"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Books

John,
What was your opinion on this book as far as Genealogical information?

To me this books richness was about the history of Jalostotitlan. In my
opinion if your looking for family tree's ONLY or Genealogical information
then I would not recommend this book. Below is an Index of the Chapter
covered in this book...

re-introduction for Welester G. Alvarado

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Quirian Saldivar Gomez ( my gg grandmother ) born Jan. 3rd 1821 in Villa de Santiago , married Candelario Alvarado Oct. 26 1844 in Villa de SantiagoJuan Jose Saldivar Rodriguez de Montemayor y Ayala my ggg grandfather from Guaxuco aka Villa de Santiago married Maria Ygnacia Gomez Alanis on Sept. 29 1817 also in Cauxco Jose Gregorio Saldivar de Montemayor my gggg grandfather from Cauxco married to Jacinta Rodriguez Ayala ( not sure if Monterrey or Cauxco married )Agustin Saldivar de la Garza my ggggg grandfather from from Cauxco married Ana Josefa Rodriguez de Montemayor Juan Saldivar Salinas my gggggg grandfather from Cauxco married Ysabel de la Garza Montemayor Agustin Saldivar Farias my ggggggg grandfather from Zacatecas married Ana SalinasVicente Zaldivar my gggggggg grandfather from Zacatecas married to Maria Farias Sosa So far that's all I have . On another note Villa de Santiag was called different names at different times , it was called CAUXCO , CAUJUCO , EL VALLE

Libro de Venta: Jalostotitlan a traves de los siglod

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Cuando estuve en Colotlan el mes pasado pase por el centro universitario norte de la Universidad de Guadalajara y en la libreria encontre un tesoro de libros. Compre varios que me interesaban a mi y uno que me parecio le interesaria a algun miembro del grupo...

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Libro de Venta: Jalostotitlan a traves de los siglod

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Arturo,

Aunque no soy de Jalostitlan, este libro me interesa. Por favor pongame en la lista de personas que desean comprar el libro. Fuero del foro me comunico con usted para saber a donde enviar el cheque.

Muchas Gracias de antemano;
Alicia

----- Original Message ----
From: arturoramos
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 5:07:24 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Libro de Venta: Jalostotitlan a traves de los siglod

JALOSTOTITLAN A TRAVES DE LOS SIGLOS. Tomo I. De la Prehispanía a la Independencia. 2a ed

Autor: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio.
Descripcion: Historia municipal con lista de lideres religiosos y seculares en apendice
Imprenta: Guadalajara, Acento Editorial, 2001
Condicion: 264p., photos, illus., tablas, wrps, 4to

Lo vendo a cualquier miembro que lo quiera... $30 incuyendo el envio.

Pienso recopilar la lista de los libros que tengo y compartirla con el grupo para que si alguien quiere que le busque algun dato. Espero que miembros con bibliotecas grandes puedan hacer lo mismo.

Libro de Venta: Jalostotitlan a traves de los siglod

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Hi there Arturo ,

I'm interested in the book as well , can you check and see how much it would cost to send it back to Mexico ( Monterrey ) or can I have the library in Guadalajara mail it to me . In not then let me know how much it will cost and I will deposit the money to your bank from my bank here .

Welester

> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 17:39:40 -0800> From: alliecar@pacbell.net> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Libro de Venta: Jalostotitlan a traves de los siglod> > Arturo,> > Aunque no soy de Jalostitlan, este libro me interesa. Por favor pongame en la lista de personas que desean comprar el libro. Fuero del foro me comunico con usted para saber a donde enviar el cheque.> > Muchas Gracias de antemano;> Alicia> > > ----- Original Message ----> From: arturoramos > To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 5:07:24 PM> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Libro de Venta: Jalostotitlan a traves de los siglod> > > Cuando estuve en Colotlan el mes pasado pase por el centro universitario norte de la Universidad de Guadalajara y en la libreria encontre un tesoro de libros. Compre varios que me interesaban a mi y uno que me parecio le interesaria a algun miembro del grupo...> > JALOSTOTITLAN A TRAVES DE LOS SIGLOS. Tomo I. De la Prehispanía a la Independencia. 2a ed> > Autor: Gutiérrez Gutiérrez, José Antonio.> Descripcion: Historia municipal con lista de lideres religiosos y seculares en apendice> Imprenta: Guadalajara, Acento Editorial, 2001> Condicion: 264p., photos, illus., tablas, wrps, 4to> > Lo vendo a cualquier miembro que lo quiera... $30 incuyendo el envio.> > Pienso recopilar la lista de los libros que tengo y compartirla con el grupo para que si alguien quiere que le busque algun dato. Espero que miembros con bibliotecas grandes puedan hacer lo mismo.> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos General Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> general(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos General Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> general(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
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Libro de Venta: Jalostotitlan a traves de los siglod

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Hola Arturo, a mi también me interesa mucho adquirir dico texto, gran parte de mi familia proviene de ahí. Qué procede? Te envío mi dirección? Cómo deposito?
mil gracias
paco herrera
Alicia Carrillo escribió:
Arturo,

Aunque no soy de Jalostitlan, este libro me interesa. Por favor pongame en la lista de personas que desean comprar el libro. Fuero del foro me comunico con usted para saber a donde enviar el cheque.

Muchas Gracias de antemano;
Alicia

JALOSTOTITLAN A TRAVES DE LOS SIGLOS. Tomo I. De la Prehispanía a la Independencia. 2a ed

Lo vendo a cualquier miembro que lo quiera... $30 incuyendo el envio.

Pienso recopilar la lista de los libros que tengo y compartirla con el grupo para que si alguien quiere que le busque algun dato. Espero que miembros con bibliotecas grandes puedan hacer lo mismo.

Libro ya vendido

Comment

Perdon por la confusion, deberia haber explicado que solamente tengo un ejemplar del libro mencionado y ya como Alicia Carrillo fue la primera para pedirmelo se lo vendere a ella. Perdon si no me explique bien.

libro de jalostotitlan

Comment

Joseph,
Please put me on the list to purchase this book. My aunts, uncle and cousins are all descendants of Pedro Lozano, of Jalostotitlan. I would love to learn more about the town than just baptisms, marriages and deaths of these ancestors.
Thanks, Lucy Sweeney

libro de jalostotitlan

Comment

sorry you'll have to email the original message poster. I don't know
about ordering or purchasing this book.

joseph

===================

Joseph Puentes
http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)

nimma2 wrote:
> Joseph,
> Please put me on the list to purchase this book. My aunts, uncle and cousins are all descendants of Pedro Lozano, of Jalostotitlan. I would love to learn more about the town than just baptisms, marriages and deaths of these ancestors.
> Thanks, Lucy Sweeney
>

No more Jalostotitlan books

Comment

Lucy

I only had one copy of the book and already sold it to Alicia, who was the first person to reply to my message. I should have known better and bought a bunch.

Arturo

Libros de Los Altos de Jalisco

Comment

Saludos a todos,

A los que todavia les interesa obtener los libros de "Jalostotitlan atraves de los Siglos, volumenes 1 y 2", yo se los puedo conseguir, los libros que necesiten.

Si les interesa, mandenme un e-mail a rickrod.com@gmail.com para saber cuantos libros pedir. El costo es de $30 dolares por libro, mas aparte lo que me cobren del envio, ya sea a EU o dentro de Mexico.

Ademas, tengo varios libros y DVDs en venta de la region de Los Altos (Arandas, Canadas de Obregon, Jalostotitlan, Pegueros, San Diego de Alejandria, San Julian, Teocaltiche, Tepatitlan, Valle de Guadalupe), asi como los libros de Retonos de Espana en la Nueva Galicia, tomos 1 y 2 (y proximamente los siguientes tomos) y varios mas, para el que les interese solo me dice y le mando la lista de lo que tengo.

Gracias y hasta luego colegas genealogistas,

Ricardo

Libros de Los Altos de Jalisco

Comment

Me gustaria saber la lista de libros disponibles
sobre los altos de jalisco.

Carlos
--- rickrod wrote:

>
> Saludos a todos,
>
> A los que todavia les interesa obtener los libros de
> "Jalostotitlan atraves de los Siglos, volumenes 1 y
> 2", yo se los puedo conseguir, los libros que
> necesiten.
>
> Si les interesa, mandenme un e-mail a
> rickrod.com@gmail.com para saber cuantos libros
> pedir. El costo es de $30 dolares por libro, mas
> aparte lo que me cobren del envio, ya sea a EU o
> dentro de Mexico.
>
> Ademas, tengo varios libros y DVDs en venta de la
> region de Los Altos (Arandas, Canadas de Obregon,
> Jalostotitlan, Pegueros, San Diego de Alejandria,
> San Julian, Teocaltiche, Tepatitlan, Valle de
> Guadalupe), asi como los libros de Retonos de Espana
> en la Nueva Galicia, tomos 1 y 2 (y proximamente los
> siguientes tomos) y varios mas, para el que les
> interese solo me dice y le mando la lista de lo que
> tengo.
>
> Gracias y hasta luego colegas genealogistas,
>
> Ricardo
>
>

Hola a todos de nuevo,He

Comment

Hola a todos de nuevo,

He subido la informacion de los libros que puedo conseguir junto con el costo de cada libro al siguiente link:
http://www.tienda.mijalisco.com/lista.html
La gran mayoria de los libros y dvds estan disponibles, solo hay uno o dos que no lo estan. Todos los libros y dvds son originales.
Hoy fui a comparar costos de envio a EU y dentro de Mexico, asi que el que guste que le mande unos libros o dvds me lo hace saber a mi correo: rickrod.com@gmail.com y les digo lo que sale cada envio, ya que depende de la cantidad y del peso de los libros.

El libro de Retonos de Espana en la Nueva Galicia, Tomo 1 esta agotado por el momento pero me dijeron hoy donde lo imprimen que a mediados del siguiente mes lo van a reimprimir. Los que lo quieran me pueden ir dejando su informacion y en cuanto esten listos les aviso y se los mando. El tomo 2 de esta serie esta disponible todavia pero esta por agotarse muy pronto. Tambien lo van a reimprimir el siguiente mes y se los puedo tener listo entonces.
Los tomos 3 al 8, me dijeron que don Mariano Gonzalez-Leal no los va a poder tener listos hasta el fin de este ano, pero yo los tendre informados si salen a la venta antes.

Bueno, gracias por todo y que esten todos muy bien.

Su servidor,

Ricardo

Libros de Los Altos de Jalisco

Comment

Hola Carlos,

He creado un sitio en internet temporal donde tengo la información de los
libros con los que cuento en este momento junto con el costo de cada uno.
El sitio es http://www.tienda.mijalisco.com/lista.html

El único inconveniente de acá es el envío ya que es algo caro pero ni modo,
no hay de otra, yo les paso el cargo del envío a costo. El cargo total del
envió oscila entre los $10 y $30 dólares, dependiendo de la cantidad y peso
de los libros.

Si te interesan algunos libros de la lista me avisas y para decirte cuanto
sale enviarlos. Si hay algún lugar en particular que te interese me dices e
intentaré ir a ver si lo puedo conseguir.

Bueno Carlos, hasta luego y que estés muy bien.

Saludos,

Ricardo

rickrod.com@gmail.com

-----Original Message-----
From: general-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:general-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Juan Correa
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:42 PM
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Libros de Los Altos de Jalisco

Hola:

Me gustaria saber la lista de libros disponibles
sobre los altos de jalisco.

Carlos
--- rickrod wrote:

Libros de Los Altos de Jalisco

Comment

Hola Ricardo:

Me interesan los libros que tienes, puedes mandarme un listado de
los libros que
tienes y cuanto cuestan.

Vivo en la ciudad de Guadalajara, Jalisco, es posible comprarlos
directamente
aqui en mi ciudad, en donde estas tu?.

Mi e-mail es: vigotal@gmail.com

Saludos:

Tomas Alejandro Villegas Gomez.

2007/1/29, rickrod :
>
>
> Saludos a todos,
>
> A los que todavia les interesa obtener los libros de "Jalostotitlan
> atraves de los Siglos, volumenes 1 y 2", yo se los puedo conseguir, los
> libros que necesiten.
>
> Si les interesa, mandenme un e-mail a rickrod.com@gmail.com para saber
> cuantos libros pedir. El costo es de $30 dolares por libro, mas aparte lo
> que me cobren del envio, ya sea a EU o dentro de Mexico.
>
> Ademas, tengo varios libros y DVDs en venta de la region de Los Altos
> (Arandas, Canadas de Obregon, Jalostotitlan, Pegueros, San Diego de
> Alejandria, San Julian, Teocaltiche, Tepatitlan, Valle de Guadalupe), asi
> como los libros de Retonos de Espana en la Nueva Galicia, tomos 1 y 2 (y
> proximamente los siguientes tomos) y varios mas, para el que les interese
> solo me dice y le mando la lista de lo que tengo.
>
> Gracias y hasta luego colegas genealogistas,
>
> Ricardo
>
>

Libros de Los Altos de Jalisco

Comment

Mi papa me compro el libro "Jalostotitlán a través de los siglos," Volumen Primero en Jalostotitlán, Jalisco, Mexico. Mi libro tiene un insigno de la Universidad de Guadalajara. Pregunta porque deben de tambien vender este libro alamejor en la Universidad o una tienda.

Yo se que aveces tambien venden estos libros en algunas boticás grandes donde venden medecina. Tambien cuando fui a (San Miguel o' Santana) donde esta el camino de los martires, tenian una tienda con libros de los Altos.

Maria Elena Gutierrez-Uhlenburg

Tomás Alejandro Villegas Gómez wrote:
Hola Ricardo:

Me interesan los libros que tienes, puedes mandarme un listado de
los libros que
tienes y cuanto cuestan.

Vivo en la ciudad de Guadalajara, Jalisco, es posible comprarlos
directamente
aqui en mi ciudad, en donde estas tu?.

Mi e-mail es: vigotal@gmail.com

Saludos:

Tomas Alejandro Villegas Gomez.

Miguel Caldera and Maria Cid

Forums

http://charltonhestonworld.homestead.com/ElCid1.html

Linda,
I think Cid is "Gallego", which might mean that it originates from Portugal.

Comments

Cid

Comment

Pardon me for interrupting the conversation about the name "Cid". The name has an Arabic origin. In the mid-eleventh century a great leader of the Christian forces emerged. The Arabic-speaking people called him "al said" (or "sayyid"). The Andalusian dialect used the expressiion "el sidi". The words mean "lord" as in "senor". It was an outward recognition of the man's military, political and administrative tyalents. His name is usually written as "Rodrigo Diaz de Vivar". Some writers call him "Ruy". He was from the town of Vivar, Spain about six miles from Burgos. Burgos is due north of Madrid close to the Cantabrian coast. Google and read the Wikipedia article. It's short and mostly accurate.

David in Albany

-----Original Message-----
>From: Latina1955@aol.com
>Sent: Jan 29, 2007 7:35 PM
>To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Miguel Caldera and Maria Cid
>
>Linda,
>I think Cid is "Gallego", which might mean that it originates from Portugal.

Cid

Comment

Dispensen. Se me olvido que hay socios quienes prefieren leer los mensajes en espanol. Simplemente les recuerdo que el nombre 'Cid' tiene origen arabe. Recuerden la historia de la Reconquista en Espana. Un guerrero valiente y capaz recibio el sobrenombre de 'al said' o 'el sayyid' entre los musulmanes en la Espana del siglo once. En Andalusia se decia 'el sidi'. El significado es 'senyor' en conocimiento del respeto que se gano. El nombre cristiano fue: Rodrigo Diaz de Vivar (o Ruy). Don Rodrigo era original del pueblo de Vivar cerca de Burgos, Espana. Burgos se encuentra en el mapa al norte de Madrid, cerca de la costa Cantabrica. Hagan una busqueda Google de y lean el articulo breve e informativo acerca de este sumamente importante protagonista de la historia iberica.

David en Albany, CA

-----Original Message-----
>From: "David P. Delgado"
>Sent: Jan 30, 2007 1:09 PM
>To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cid
>
>Pardon me for interrupting the conversation about the name "Cid". The name has an Arabic origin. In the mid-eleventh century a great leader of the Christian forces emerged. The Arabic-speaking people called him "al said" (or "sayyid"). The Andalusian dialect used the expressiion "el sidi". The words mean "lord" as in "senor". It was an outward recognition of the man's military, political and administrative tyalents. His name is usually written as "Rodrigo Diaz de Vivar". Some writers call him "Ruy". He was from the town of Vivar, Spain about six miles from Burgos. Burgos is due north of Madrid close to the Cantabrian coast. Google and read the Wikipedia article. It's short and mostly accurate.
>
>David in Albany
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Latina1955@aol.com
>>Sent: Jan 29, 2007 7:35 PM
>>To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>>Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Miguel Caldera and Maria Cid
>>
>>Linda,
>>I think Cid is "Gallego", which might mean that it originates from Portugal.

David P. Delgado

Cid

Comment

Yes, I had read about this also. There was a movie made about "El Cid" (link below) where Charleton Heston portrayed him. Very interesting. El Cid means "The Lord," from what I can understand...Thanks for sharing this very interesting information about our cultural history...

Cristina

http://charltonhestonworld.homestead.com/ElCid1.html

~~~~~

Sí, también había escuchado ésto. Arriba incluí enlace a más información sobre ésta parte tan interesante de nuestra historia cultural y sobre la pelicula que se realizó con Charleton Heston como protagonista...

"David P. Delgado" wrote:
Dispensen. Se me olvido que hay socios quienes prefieren leer los mensajes en espanol. Simplemente les recuerdo que el nombre 'Cid' tiene origen arabe. Recuerden la historia de la Reconquista en Espana. Un guerrero valiente y capaz recibio el sobrenombre de 'al said' o 'el sayyid' entre los musulmanes en la Espana del siglo once. En Andalusia se decia 'el sidi'. El significado es 'senyor' en conocimiento del respeto que se gano. El nombre cristiano fue: Rodrigo Diaz de Vivar (o Ruy). Don Rodrigo era original del pueblo de Vivar cerca de Burgos, Espana. Burgos se encuentra en el mapa al norte de Madrid, cerca de la costa Cantabrica. Hagan una busqueda Google de y lean el articulo breve e informativo acerca de este sumamente importante protagonista de la historia iberica.

David en Albany, CA

David P. Delgado

Cid

Comment

Dear Group,
Many cultures have epic poems that originated as oral history and were eventually written. Among the most famous are Homer's the Iliad and the Odyssey from Greece, The Song of Roland from France, and El Cid from Spain. I love that stuff!! Alice

--- cavilah@sbcglobal.net wrote:

From: La Plus Belle
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cid
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:34:02 -0800 (PST)

Cristina

http://charltonhestonworld.homestead.com/ElCid1.html

~~~~~

David en Albany, CA

David P. Delgado

Cid

Comment

When I first told my husband that I had linked with the famous Rodrigo Diaz Bivar (aka El Cid), he simply rolled his eyes and proceeded to tell there was "no such person," it's a myth... ok, what did I know, I actually believed him. But with time and more research I was able to convince him that El Cid was real...
Viva El Cid... my 33rd Great Grandfather

Pat Silva Corbera
Tracy CA USA

AliceBB wrote:
Dear Group,
Many cultures have epic poems that originated as oral history and were eventually written. Among the most famous are Homer's the Iliad and the Odyssey from Greece, The Song of Roland from France, and El Cid from Spain. I love that stuff!! Alice

--- cavilah@sbcglobal.net wrote:

From: La Plus Belle
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cid
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:34:02 -0800 (PST)

Cristina

http://charltonhestonworld.homestead.com/ElCid1.html

~~~~~

David en Albany, CA

David P. Delgado

Cid

Comment

PS.. If the Spanish conquistadores had had the foresight and appreciation that the Romans had of the Greek civilization and hadn't tried to totally destroy the Mexica/Azteca libraries and culture, we would have wonderful epic poems the indigenous emperors themselves had written. It sustains my belief in the inherent wisdom of mankind, when I read that some of our group members feel it just as important to seek our indigineous roots as those from Europe. Alice

--- alicebb@netscape.com wrote:

From: AliceBB
To:
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cid
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:28:58 -0800

--- cavilah@sbcglobal.net wrote:

From: La Plus Belle
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cid
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:34:02 -0800 (PST)

Cristina

http://charltonhestonworld.homestead.com/ElCid1.html

~~~~~

David en Albany, CA

David P. Delgado

Cid

Comment

David,

I wish you would interrupt more often, you speak with such knowledge and wisdom and it is always a joy to listen to those who have something valuable to share. So many wise and knowledgeable people in the group.......one of the many joys of belonging to Nuestros Ranchos to have so many people knowledgeable not only about Mexican history but the history of the world.

Thank you Ranchos Members

David,
Deberia de interumpir con mas frecuencia, habla usted tan elocuentemente y con sabiduria. Siempre es un gran placer eschuchar cuando alguien tiene algo valioso para contribuir con todos. Es el orgullo de este grupo el tener a tantos participantes con conocimiento no solo de la historia de Mexico sino de la historia de el munod. Que orgullo ser un miembro de Nuestros Ranchos.

Gracias a Todos los de Ranchos

----- Original Message ----
From: David P. Delgado
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:09:11 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cid

David in Albany

Cid

Comment

Check out the writings of the Tlatoani of Texcoco, Nezahuacoytl

AliceBB wrote: PS.. If the Spanish conquistadores had had the foresight and appreciation that the Romans had of the Greek civilization and hadn't tried to totally destroy the Mexica/Azteca libraries and culture, we would have wonderful epic poems the indigenous emperors themselves had written. It sustains my belief in the inherent wisdom of mankind, when I read that some of our group members feel it just as important to seek our indigineous roots as those from Europe. Alice

--- alicebb@netscape.com wrote:

From: AliceBB
To:
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cid
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:28:58 -0800

--- cavilah@sbcglobal.net wrote:

From: La Plus Belle
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cid
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:34:02 -0800 (PST)

Cristina

http://charltonhestonworld.homestead.com/ElCid1.html

~~~~~

David en Albany, CA

David P. Delgado

Cid

Comment

Thanks, Robert. Your message brought back memories of my mother. She was a teacher in Mexico and introduced me to precolombian history and the wonderful poetry of the Mexica king Nezahuacoytl. Alice

--- tehuima2@yahoo.com wrote:

From: robert hernandez
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cid
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 19:55:57 -0800 (PST)

Check out the writings of the Tlatoani of Texcoco, Nezahuacoytl

--- alicebb@netscape.com wrote:

From: AliceBB
To:
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cid
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 18:28:58 -0800

--- cavilah@sbcglobal.net wrote:

From: La Plus Belle
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cid
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:34:02 -0800 (PST)

Cristina

~~~~~

David en Albany, CA

David P. Delgado

Cid

Comment

when you have time can you post a very simple straight line report
showing your connection, that is unless it is already there (just post
the URL in that case). I've always wondered if my Diaz were somehow part
of his Diaz. Would be fun to see how you make your way back that far. so
interesting. thanks.

joseph

===================

Joseph Puentes
http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)

Patricia Corbera wrote:
> When I first told my husband that I had linked with the famous Rodrigo Diaz Bivar (aka El Cid), he simply rolled his eyes and proceeded to tell there was "no such person," it's a myth... ok, what did I know, I actually believed him. But with time and more research I was able to convince him that El Cid was real...
> Viva El Cid... my 33rd Great Grandfather
>
> Pat Silva Corbera
> Tracy CA USA
>
> AliceBB wrote:
> Dear Group,
> Many cultures have epic poems that originated as oral history and were eventually written. Among the most famous are Homer's the Iliad and the Odyssey from Greece, The Song of Roland from France, and El Cid from Spain. I love that stuff!! Alice
>
> --- cavilah@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
> From: La Plus Belle
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cid
> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:34:02 -0800 (PST)
>
> Yes, I had read about this also. There was a movie made about "El Cid" (link below) where Charleton Heston portrayed him. Very interesting. El Cid means "The Lord," from what I can understand...Thanks for sharing this very interesting information about our cultural history...
>
> Cristina
>
> http://charltonhestonworld.homestead.com/ElCid1.html
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cid
>
> ~~~~~
>
> Sí, también había escuchado ésto. Arriba incluí enlace a más información sobre ésta parte tan interesante de nuestra historia cultural y sobre la pelicula que se realizó con Charleton Heston como protagonista...
>
> "David P. Delgado" wrote:
> Dispensen. Se me olvido que hay socios quienes prefieren leer los mensajes en espanol. Simplemente les recuerdo que el nombre 'Cid' tiene origen arabe. Recuerden la historia de la Reconquista en Espana. Un guerrero valiente y capaz recibio el sobrenombre de 'al said' o 'el sayyid' entre los musulmanes en la Espana del siglo once. En Andalusia se decia 'el sidi'. El significado es 'senyor' en conocimiento del respeto que se gano. El nombre cristiano fue: Rodrigo Diaz de Vivar (o Ruy). Don Rodrigo era original del pueblo de Vivar cerca de Burgos, Espana. Burgos se encuentra en el mapa al norte de Madrid, cerca de la costa Cantabrica. Hagan una busqueda Google de y lean el articulo breve e informativo acerca de este sumamente importante protagonista de la historia iberica.
>
> David en Albany, CA
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>> From: "David P. Delgado"
>> Sent: Jan 30, 2007 1:09 PM
>> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cid
>>
>> Pardon me for interrupting the conversation about the name "Cid". The name has an Arabic origin. In the mid-eleventh century a great leader of the Christian forces emerged. The Arabic-speaking people called him "al said" (or "sayyid"). The Andalusian dialect used the expressiion "el sidi". The words mean "lord" as in "senor". It was an outward recognition of the man's military, political and administrative tyalents. His name is usually written as "Rodrigo Diaz de Vivar". Some writers call him "Ruy". He was from the town of Vivar, Spain about six miles from Burgos. Burgos is due north of Madrid close to the Cantabrian coast. Google and read the Wikipedia article. It's short and mostly accurate.
>>
>> David in Albany
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>>> From: Latina1955@aol.com
>>> Sent: Jan 29, 2007 7:35 PM
>>> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Miguel Caldera and Maria Cid
>>>
>>> Linda,
>>> I think Cid is "Gallego", which might mean that it originates from Portugal.
>>>
>
>
>
> David P. Delgado

Cid

Comment

Joseph,

Sources ~ Various sources were used including:
~ Manuel Abranches de Soveral
http://pwp.netcabo.pt/soveral/mas/DomFernando.htm
(Mr. Soveral is a noted published Portuguese historian)
~ Genea Portugal - Sapo
~ Familias da Ilha da Madeira and Porto Santo
~ Nobiliário da Ilha da Madeira, por Henrique Henriques de Noronha
~ The Catholic Encyclopedia, Vol. III

33 - Rodrigo Diaz Bivar (Campeador) b. abt 1043 Bivar-Burgos, Spain d. 10
July 1099 Valencia, Spain
Rodrigo m. Regent Ximena Gomes Diaz, daughter of Gomes de Gormas.
32 - Elvira Cristina Rodrigues Bivar m. Ramiro Sanchez son of Sancho Garcez
and Constanca de Maranon. Ramiro was the son of Garcia III King of Navarre
nickname: o de Najera
31 - Garcia IV Ramirez (King)
30 - Branca (Princess)
29 - Alfonso VIII b. 11 Nov 1155 Spain
28 - Branca de Castilla (Queen)
27 - Louis IX (Saint) b. 25 April 1214 (France)
26 - Branca de Franca (Princess)
25 - Afonso de Lacerda (Prince)
24 - Afonso de Lacerda
23 - Carlos de Lacerda (Count)
22 - N. de Lacerda (first name not known)
21 - Martim Goncalves de Lacerda
20 - Isabel Pereira de Lacerda
19 - Goncalo Aires Ferreira
18 - Eva Gomes Ferreira
17 - Brites Vaz Ferreira
16 - Ignez Moniz
15 - Guiomar Moniz
14 - Ignez Alvares da Rua

~From this point down, my pedigee charts were prepared by the now retired
director of the Madeira, Portugal Archives ~
Time Frame ~ abt 1485 to present
13 - Branca de Atouguia
12 - Rodrigo Alvares da Costa
11 - Leonor da Costa
10 - Jorge Pinto da Costa
9 - Isabel de Amil
8 - Joao Barreto
7 - Agueda Cesar Abreu Andrade
6 - Jacome Cesar de Lira
5 - Agueda Cesar e Lira
4 - Pedro Homem d'El-Rei
3 - Ana Delfina Cesar
2 - Ana Cesar Ferreira
1 - Maria Augusta Rodrigues
Maternal Grandfather - Antonio da Silva Se' b. 1881 Lombo da Estrela,
Calheta, Madeira, Portugal

Pat Silva Corbera
California USA

p.s. comments and or corrections/additions welcomed

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Puentes"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cid

joseph

===================

Joseph Puentes
http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)

Patricia Corbera wrote:
> When I first told my husband that I had linked with the famous Rodrigo
> Diaz Bivar (aka El Cid), he simply rolled his eyes and proceeded to tell
> there was "no such person," it's a myth... ok, what did I know, I actually
> believed him. But with time and more research I was able to convince him
> that El Cid was real...
> Viva El Cid... my 33rd Great Grandfather
>
> Pat Silva Corbera
> Tracy CA USA
>
> AliceBB wrote:
> Dear Group,
> Many cultures have epic poems that originated as oral history and were
> eventually written. Among the most famous are Homer's the Iliad and the
> Odyssey from Greece, The Song of Roland from France, and El Cid from
> Spain. I love that stuff!! Alice
>
> --- cavilah@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
> From: La Plus Belle
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cid
> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 14:34:02 -0800 (PST)
>
> Yes, I had read about this also. There was a movie made about "El Cid"
> (link below) where Charleton Heston portrayed him. Very interesting. El
> Cid means "The Lord," from what I can understand...Thanks for sharing this
> very interesting information about our cultural history...
>
> Cristina
>
> http://charltonhestonworld.homestead.com/ElCid1.html
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Cid
>
> ~~~~~
>
> Sí, también había escuchado ésto. Arriba incluí enlace a más información
> sobre ésta parte tan interesante de nuestra historia cultural y sobre la
> pelicula que se realizó con Charleton Heston como protagonista...
>
> "David P. Delgado" wrote:
> Dispensen. Se me olvido que hay socios quienes prefieren leer los mensajes
> en espanol. Simplemente les recuerdo que el nombre 'Cid' tiene origen
> arabe. Recuerden la historia de la Reconquista en Espana. Un guerrero
> valiente y capaz recibio el sobrenombre de 'al said' o 'el sayyid' entre
> los musulmanes en la Espana del siglo once. En Andalusia se decia 'el
> sidi'. El significado es 'senyor' en conocimiento del respeto que se gano.
> El nombre cristiano fue: Rodrigo Diaz de Vivar (o Ruy). Don Rodrigo era
> original del pueblo de Vivar cerca de Burgos, Espana. Burgos se encuentra
> en el mapa al norte de Madrid, cerca de la costa Cantabrica. Hagan una
> busqueda Google de y lean el articulo breve e informativo acerca de este
> sumamente importante protagonista de la historia iberica.
>
> David en Albany, CA
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>> From: "David P. Delgado"
>> Sent: Jan 30, 2007 1:09 PM
>> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cid
>>
>> Pardon me for interrupting the conversation about the name "Cid". The
>> name has an Arabic origin. In the mid-eleventh century a great leader of
>> the Christian forces emerged. The Arabic-speaking people called him "al
>> said" (or "sayyid"). The Andalusian dialect used the expressiion "el
>> sidi". The words mean "lord" as in "senor". It was an outward recognition
>> of the man's military, political and administrative tyalents. His name is
>> usually written as "Rodrigo Diaz de Vivar". Some writers call him "Ruy".
>> He was from the town of Vivar, Spain about six miles from Burgos. Burgos
>> is due north of Madrid close to the Cantabrian coast. Google and read the
>> Wikipedia article. It's short and mostly accurate.
>>
>> David in Albany
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>>> From: Latina1955@aol.com
>>> Sent: Jan 29, 2007 7:35 PM
>>> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Miguel Caldera and Maria Cid
>>>
>>> Linda,
>>> I think Cid is "Gallego", which might mean that it originates from
>>> Portugal.
>>>
>
>
>
> David P. Delgado

Notice

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Lo siento pero tengo que decir lo siguiente:

Comments

Notice

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I added mine in Joseph- Thanks- Jessica
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Gonzalez" <1gnzlz@verizon.net>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:05 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Notice

Lo siento pero tengo que decir lo siguiente:

Hace algunos dias hice mi inspección final para determinar quienes serían
eliminados del grupo a partir del dia
primero de Febrero, 2007. Pero luego ayer noté que algunos han enviado
genealogias al area del grupo:
"files"==>"Member Genealogies" SIN notificar a los miembros del grupo Y
sin informarme a mi.

Si le envié un mensaje en el cual le avisaba que necesitaba mandar su
genealogia antes del dia 31 de Enero del 2007
Y si envió sus datos a "files" Y no me lo hizo saber...Que no le sorprenda
si se encuentra eliminado del grupo de todos modos.
La comunicación es esencial aquí y se requiere notificar a alguien.
Es muy dificil llevar control de todos los miembros, expedientes, datos y
todo lo demas que tengo que hacer fuera del grupo
si no hay buena comunicación.
Si usted es una de esas personas, le sujiero me envíe un mensaje los mas
pronto posible dirigido a: NR@JosephPuentes.com
de no hacerlo, tendra que pasar por el proceso completo de inscripción otra
vez (que es bastante facil)

Joseph Puentes

Campos Genealogy from Jerez, Zacatecas

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Campos GEDCOM from Jerez, Zacatecas has been posted.

Thanks,

Steve Campos

Fundadores Nueva Galicia

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If you mean the book "Fundadoes de Nueva Galicia" The author is Guillermo Garamedia Leal.
He sells his books though Borderland Bookstore in San Antonio www.borderlandbooks.com.
--
Esther A. Herold

Libros de Los Altos de Jalisco

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Hola Ricardo ,

Me llamo Welester G. Alvarado y vivo en Monterrey , Mexico estoy interesado en los libros " Jalostotitlan atraves de los Siglos , Vol. 1 y 2 . Dime cuanto cuesta aqui en Mexico con el envio .

31 Jan 2007

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Many in the group have already complied, but many have not. If you've
already submitted your genealogy just relax. . .you're a life member of
the Nuestros Ranchos group.

For those that haven't submitted their work I get a little nervous when

Comments

31 Jan 2007

Comment

I've only started this year, but i have about a dozen
names in family tree maker. can i submit what i have
so far? they go directly to jalisco so there's no
trouble tying them to that area. and how can i upload
them from family tree maker? thanks!
Lavaniya Jimenez
--- Joseph Puentes wrote:

>
> Many in the group have already complied, but many
> have not. If you've
> already submitted your genealogy just relax. .
> .you're a life member of
> the Nuestros Ranchos group.
>
> For those that haven't submitted their work I get a
> little nervous when
> it comes time to remove members from the list. I
> wish everyone would
> just buckle down and send in their representative
> genealogies showing
> their connection to Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or
> Aguascalientes.
>
> This is the second to the last notice I'm going to
> send out. I'll
> probably send out the last notice right after the
> new year. Then
> suddenly on 01 Feb 2007 the group should show 30-50
> less members. Please
> don't let this be you. On that day or shortly
> thereafter I will be
> deleting the memberships of all who have not done
> one of the following things:
>
> 1) emailed moderator@nuestrosranchos.org with a
> request for the specific
> amount of time you'll need beyond 31 Jan 2007 to
> submit your genealogy*.
>
> *Note you might be a new researcher with very little
> or nothing to
> submit. In this case you'll be able to meet this
> requirement by sending
> in a short account of your family's "Oral History"
> relating your roots
> to Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or Aguascalientes.
>
> 2) send moderator@nuestrosranchos.org an email with
> your
> "representative" tree showing your connection to
> Jalisco, Zacatecas,
> and/or Aguascalientes. [Note: not your gedcom is not
> required, or every
> document you ever discovered or your whole life's
> genealogical work,
> just a simple "representative" tree showing your
> connection to our area
> of research]
>
> Please don't wait until the last minute. Email me
> soon so we can start
> making up your folder in the private to members only
> area of the group.
>
> joseph
>
> ===================
>
> Joseph Puentes
> http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
> http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American
> History)
>
> ====================================================
>
> En Espanol:
>
> Voy a mandar esta noticia otra vez, la ultima vez,
> en la primer semana
> de Enero de 2007
>
> *Aquellos miembros nuevos no deben de preocuparse
> con esto; la razon es
> que ya reuni su "arbol representativo" el cual
> enseña su respectiva
> conexion a la region de nuestra investigacion:
> Jalisco, Zacatecas y
> Aguascalientes.*
>
> *Por el momento existen 175 miembros con solo 105
> geneologias remitidas,
> esto da razon a que aquellos miembros sin remitir su
> geneologia personal
> deben de hacerlo lo mas rapido que sea posible, ya
> que la fecha critica
> del 31 de Enero 2007 pronto llegara. En este fecha
> empezare anular su
> calidad de miembro con la **excepción de los
> miembros que han actuado de
> la siguiente manera:***
>
> 1) Correspondido con moderator@nuestrosranchos.org
> solicitando
> una extension más
> allá del 31 de Enero 2007 para remitir su *"arbol
> representativo"**. El
> correo electronico debe de contener el tiempo
> explicito necesario de la
> extension solicitada.
>
> **En el caso que usted sea nuevo a la investigacion
> con muy poco o nada
> que pueda remitir, entonces podra cumplir con el
> requisito enviando un
> breve escrito de la "historia oral familiar" que
> indique la relacion de
> sus raices a Jalisco, Zacatecas y Aguascalientes.*
>
> *2) Enviar a **moderator@nuestrosranchos.org
> ** un correo
> electronico con su
> "arbol representativo" que explique su conexion a
> Jalisco, Zacatecas o
> Aguascalientes. [Aclaración: Su archivo "gedcom" no
> es necesario; ni
> copias de cualquier documento descubierto o su
> trabajo geneologica en su
> totalidad, solo un "arbol representativo" que enseñe
> su relación a la
> region]*
>
> *Por favor no espere hasta el ultimo momento -- es
> urgente. Envieme por
> correo electronico para formar su "carpeta de
> archivo" disponible
> exclusivamente a "solo miembros".*
>
> joseph
> moderator@nuestrosranchos.org
>
> ===================
>
> Joseph Puentes
> http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
> http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American
> History)
>
>
>
>

How To Create An RTF file in FTM: 31 Jan 2007

Comment

yes you can and later if you want to update your folder that is
definitely possible. here are instructions on how to make a report from
family tree maker. Most important thing is not to include individuals
that are living both for privacy and security reasons. After you make up
the report send it to me in an email and I'll make up a private folder
for your. Here are those instructions:

okay here is how to do it.

1) First go to the oldest individual.

2) Then go to "View" and

3) then to "Genealogy Report"

4) then go to "Contents" and

5) "Number of generations to show" and pick a number that does not show
any living relatives. Probably around your grandparents. After the
report is exactly like you want it

6) then go to "File" and

7) down to "Export Genealogy report" pick the option for .rtf and save
it someplace with the name of that oldest relative and the date.

8) attach it to an email and send it to moderator@nuestrosranchos.org
with the following information:

a) Your full name
b) Your Nuestros Ranchos User Name
c) Your Nuestros Ranchos Subscription email address
d) the name of this report (maybe the name of the oldest two individuals
or just the surnames)
e) the geographical area you are researching: Specific Ranchos and the
Larger Town/Cabezera for the specific Ranchos.

lavaniya sutton wrote:
> I've only started this year, but i have about a dozen
> names in family tree maker. can i submit what i have
> so far? they go directly to jalisco so there's no
> trouble tying them to that area. and how can i upload
> them from family tree maker? thanks!
> Lavaniya Jimenez
> --- Joseph Puentes wrote:
>
>
>> Many in the group have already complied, but many
>> have not. If you've
>> already submitted your genealogy just relax. .
>> .you're a life member of
>> the Nuestros Ranchos group.
>>
>> For those that haven't submitted their work I get a
>> little nervous when
>> it comes time to remove members from the list. I
>> wish everyone would
>> just buckle down and send in their representative
>> genealogies showing
>> their connection to Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or
>> Aguascalientes.
>>
>> This is the second to the last notice I'm going to
>> send out. I'll
>> probably send out the last notice right after the
>> new year. Then
>> suddenly on 01 Feb 2007 the group should show 30-50
>> less members. Please
>> don't let this be you. On that day or shortly
>> thereafter I will be
>> deleting the memberships of all who have not done
>> one of the following things:
>>
>> 1) emailed moderator@nuestrosranchos.org with a
>> request for the specific
>> amount of time you'll need beyond 31 Jan 2007 to
>> submit your genealogy*.
>>
>> *Note you might be a new researcher with very little
>> or nothing to
>> submit. In this case you'll be able to meet this
>> requirement by sending
>> in a short account of your family's "Oral History"
>> relating your roots
>> to Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or Aguascalientes.
>>
>> 2) send moderator@nuestrosranchos.org an email with
>> your
>> "representative" tree showing your connection to
>> Jalisco, Zacatecas,
>> and/or Aguascalientes. [Note: not your gedcom is not
>> required, or every
>> document you ever discovered or your whole life's
>> genealogical work,
>> just a simple "representative" tree showing your
>> connection to our area
>> of research]
>>
>> Please don't wait until the last minute. Email me
>> soon so we can start
>> making up your folder in the private to members only
>> area of the group.
>>
>> joseph
>>
>> ===================
>>
>> Joseph Puentes
>> http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
>> http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American
>> History)
>>
>> ====================================================
>>
>> En Espanol:
>>
>> Voy a mandar esta noticia otra vez, la ultima vez,
>> en la primer semana
>> de Enero de 2007
>>
>> *Aquellos miembros nuevos no deben de preocuparse
>> con esto; la razon es
>> que ya reuni su "arbol representativo" el cual
>> enseña su respectiva
>> conexion a la region de nuestra investigacion:
>> Jalisco, Zacatecas y
>> Aguascalientes.*
>>
>> *Por el momento existen 175 miembros con solo 105
>> geneologias remitidas,
>> esto da razon a que aquellos miembros sin remitir su
>> geneologia personal
>> deben de hacerlo lo mas rapido que sea posible, ya
>> que la fecha critica
>> del 31 de Enero 2007 pronto llegara. En este fecha
>> empezare anular su
>> calidad de miembro con la **excepción de los
>> miembros que han actuado de
>> la siguiente manera:***
>>
>> 1) Correspondido con moderator@nuestrosranchos.org
>> solicitando
>> una extension más
>> allá del 31 de Enero 2007 para remitir su *"arbol
>> representativo"**. El
>> correo electronico debe de contener el tiempo
>> explicito necesario de la
>> extension solicitada.
>>
>> **En el caso que usted sea nuevo a la investigacion
>> con muy poco o nada
>> que pueda remitir, entonces podra cumplir con el
>> requisito enviando un
>> breve escrito de la "historia oral familiar" que
>> indique la relacion de
>> sus raices a Jalisco, Zacatecas y Aguascalientes.*
>>
>> *2) Enviar a **moderator@nuestrosranchos.org
>> ** un correo
>> electronico con su
>> "arbol representativo" que explique su conexion a
>> Jalisco, Zacatecas o
>> Aguascalientes. [Aclaración: Su archivo "gedcom" no
>> es necesario; ni
>> copias de cualquier documento descubierto o su
>> trabajo geneologica en su
>> totalidad, solo un "arbol representativo" que enseñe
>> su relación a la
>> region]*
>>
>> *Por favor no espere hasta el ultimo momento -- es
>> urgente. Envieme por
>> correo electronico para formar su "carpeta de
>> archivo" disponible
>> exclusivamente a "solo miembros".*
>>
>> joseph
>> moderator@nuestrosranchos.org
>>
>> ===================
>>
>> Joseph Puentes
>> http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
>> http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American
>> History)
>>
>>
>>
>>

How To Create An RTF file in FTM: 31 Jan 2007

Comment

I'm not sure if I've done this right. Is there
something I need to do to get less reports? Thanks=)
By the way, the family research i'm doing is for my
husband's family, his name is J. Gabriel Jimenez
Castillo.

Lavaniya Jimenez
chula801
chula801@yahoo.com
Jimenez, Hernandez, Pena, Castillo
Mascota, Jalisco

--- Joseph Puentes wrote:

> yes you can and later if you want to update your
> folder that is
> definitely possible. here are instructions on how to
> make a report from
> family tree maker. Most important thing is not to
> include individuals
> that are living both for privacy and security
> reasons. After you make up
> the report send it to me in an email and I'll make
> up a private folder
> for your. Here are those instructions:
>
> okay here is how to do it.
>
> 1) First go to the oldest individual.
>
> 2) Then go to "View" and
>
> 3) then to "Genealogy Report"
>
> 4) then go to "Contents" and
>
> 5) "Number of generations to show" and pick a number
> that does not show
> any living relatives. Probably around your
> grandparents. After the
> report is exactly like you want it
>
> 6) then go to "File" and
>
> 7) down to "Export Genealogy report" pick the option
> for .rtf and save
> it someplace with the name of that oldest relative
> and the date.
>
> 8) attach it to an email and send it to
> moderator@nuestrosranchos.org
> with the following information:
>
> a) Your full name
> b) Your Nuestros Ranchos User Name
> c) Your Nuestros Ranchos Subscription email address
> d) the name of this report (maybe the name of the
> oldest two individuals
> or just the surnames)
> e) the geographical area you are researching:
> Specific Ranchos and the
> Larger Town/Cabezera for the specific Ranchos.
>
>

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31 Jan 2007

Comment

John, can you translate this and send it back to the group right away if
you get a chance:

Sorry but I need to say this. A few days ago I went through and did my
final survey of who was going to be unsubscribed on 1 Feb 2007, but then
yesterday I noticed that some have gone in and submitted genealogies
into the "files" --> "members genealogies" Area of the group AND not
said anything about it to the group OR informed me.

If I sent you an email saying you are need to submit your genealogy
before 31 Jan 2007 AND you submitted your work into the "files" area AND
you didn't tell me. . .well don't be surprised if you get unsubscribed
anyway. Communication is king around her and you need to say something.
I can't keep track of all people and folders and everything that I'm
doing outside the group without good communication.

If you are one of those people I'd send an email to me ASAP:
NR@JosephPuentes.com or you might have to go through the process all
over again (mind you it is easy enough).

joseph

===================

Joseph Puentes
http://H2Opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History)

Familysearch Indexing of Digitized Films

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In case you didn't know, the LDS project for digitizing films is going much faster than anyone expected. They have now begun projects where volunteers can extract documents online using special software that you can download. I did it tonight just to see what it was like and it is amazingly simple to do. It looks like it is mostly the 1900 census for the moment. I think this has to do with the standardization of the documents which makes it possible for volunteers with minimal or no training to find the information and enter it correctly.

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Familysearch Indexing of Digitized Films

Comment

Well, I guess that leaves us Mac-ers out.:( I just went online and
it's only for IEs. Marge:)
On Jan 28, 2007, at 10:26 PM, arturoramos wrote:

>
> In case you didn't know, the LDS project for digitizing films is going
> much faster than anyone expected. They have now begun projects where
> volunteers can extract documents online using special software that
> you can download. I did it tonight just to see what it was like and
> it is amazingly simple to do. It looks like it is mostly the 1900
> census for the moment. I think this has to do with the
> standardization of the documents which makes it possible for
> volunteers with minimal or no training to find the information and
> enter it correctly.
>
> I would love to see them put up an extraction project related to our
> research area! I have already written them to inquire about when this
> might be.
>
> If you get a chance and have some free space on your hard drive (the
> software is pretty large), try downloading the software and extracting
> a batch or two of the census... every little bit counts:
>
> http://www.familysearchindexing.org/en/index.jsp

Huizar families

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