Going to Salt Lake City

Before going to the FHL in Salt Lake, you need to  check and see if
the films,that you want look at are there.  You can do this by
checking the Library Catalog, at Familysearch.org, if the films are in
the the FHL, it will say above the film number FHL International or
FHL USA, etc.  If it is in the vault, It will say Vault.  You can
order the film into the library by calling the Library at (801)
240-2334. That is the direct line to the International floor
attendants, just say that you want ot order a film, into the the
library.  It usually takes about 2 days to arrive.  Also, they give
priority to patrons, who come from outside of Utah, to use the library.

Also, when are you planning on going to the Library, in March?  Maybe
we can meet at the Library?

Thanks,
Jonathan

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Alicia Carrillo  wrote:
> 
> This may seem like a silly question to some, but for my birthday in
March, I plan on gifting myself a trip to Salt Lake City to do some

Going to Salt Lake City


In a message dated 2/7/2005 6:09:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, albertodua@... writes:

If you live in Los Angeles or the surrounding towns,
the LDS Family Center in Westwood (near UCLA) is also
excellent.  They have tons of microfilm from Mexico.

The optimist would say, "Oh yes that is absolutely true!! Very good!!"

 

The pessimist would say, "But they do not have all of them, especially not the ones that I need."

 

There the realist would say,  "Expect to have a really good time, but not as good as you had hoped."

 

I have been to the LA Family History Center many times before, with a list of microfilms I had wanted to look at, and then discovered to my dismay that they were not there.  So, not all the films are there.  But, yes they do have quite a few.

 

Regards,

Steven H.

 

 

Mexican Phone Books: Please!!!



I would like to put a standing order in. . .please please please buy me
a phone book. The next time anyone from the group or someone that the
group knows goes to Mexico I need a phone book. Believe me I'm good for
reimbursing you  for both your expenses and trouble. I need phone books
from any places in our target area state. . .hey and while you are
there why not get yourself a copy too! A great way to collect Oral
History.


I really really need help
with this.



thanks,



joseph



ps:



Joseph Puentes

13110 Meadow Ridge Drive

Rougemont, NC 27572


Fwd: LECTOR: THE HISPANIC BOOK REVIEW JOURNAL

In a message dated 2/5/2005 9:13:30 PM Pacific Standard Time, rcabello@floricantopress.com writes:

Bring Me More Stories. By Sally Benforado. Floricanto Press ISBN: 0915745674  $22.95

In these short tales, author Benforado weaves together the oral history of a family of Sephardic Jews, from their close knit home in Turkey to their new lives in America. They are stories of a heritage that spans the globe, of centuries-old traditions transported to a different world, and of people who held tightly to the ways of their ancestors, who, like them, left their homes to settle in a strange new land. Following their exodus from Spain in 1492, Sephardic Jews were not allowed to remain on Spanish territories. Any Sephardim who chose not to leave, had to convert to Catholicism. Many chose to emigrate and leave Spain, their ancestral land forever.The hardships faced upon leaving Spain were horrific for the Spanish Jews. Paris vividly describes the following: Although some Jews "traveled by

Going to Salt Lake City

Alicia, I have to agree with Evie.  I visited the FH Library in Salt 
Lake in November of 2003.  I found many films from Mexico were 
there, but not all of the specific films I was interested in.  When 
I asked about them I was informed that they were in the Vault and 
that it would take a couple of days to get copies of them sent to 
the library.  If you are only going for a few days it's best to call 
ahead and be prepared with the films you are most interested in 
viewing.  

I was only there for a few hours because I had missed a connecting 
flight to another destination, but it was a very productive visit.  
I had thought about gifting myself a trip to Salt Lake for my 
birthday (coincidentally in March also).  Hey, I guess great minds 
think alike!  :-)

Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Evie Villegas"  
wrote:
> Alicia, I made the trip several years ago and was disappointed to 
find that 
> all of the Mexico records were in the vault and, therefore,

Travel to Mexico

This is a good question and good idea. We will be going to Guadalajara first and proceeding to Nochistlan Zacatecas and then to Tlachichila Zacatecas in September for Las fiestas patronales. That is the feast of the patron saint of our hometown. We went last year for the first time ever and it was wonderful. This was a great opportunity to make contact with extended family who come back annually from near and far. Many came from Chicago, Texas, Oklahoma, California, Arizona, New Mexico and of course from throughout Mexico.
 
Most every town in Mexico has a feast for the patron saint of their town. You can try to log on to your town's website for that information. We on our trip last year were able get some oral family history from both the locals and those who were coming from out of town, state and country. It's a great opportunity to hear some history and lore regarding your town or city. We brought back 4 legal pages on of history of Tlachichila. They told of the founding fathers

Going to Salt Lake City

Evie,

 

I feel so dissappointed for you, I can't imagine going that far only to find that you're sooo close and yet unable to see any films or proceed with your research, that's why this group is invaluable to the novices who are learning to navigate the genealogical ropes.

 

Muchas Gracias a todos los genios de este grupo!............Alicia

Evie Villegas wrote:

Alicia, I made the trip several years ago and was disappointed to find that
all of the Mexico records were in the vault and, therefore, unavailable
without prior reservation.  Perhaps this situation has changed by now. 
However, I would suggest that you call or write and reserve those films you
wish to view, just to be sure.  Evie

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Going to Salt Lake City

Alberto, Steven, Kitty and Joseph,
 
Thanks to all of you for the great information, for the support and encouragement, I need it!!!
Alberto, If I'm ever in the Westwood area I'll make it a point to look it up. I live in San Jose, northern California so we do travel south from time to time. Maybe on my next visit I can put it on the places to visit list.
 
I'll keep you all posted on my progress................Alicia

Alberto Duarte wrote:


If you live in Los Angeles or the surrounding towns,
the LDS Family Center in Westwood (near UCLA) is also
excellent. They have tons of microfilm from Mexico.

Alberto.

--- sgapodaca wrote:

>
> That is not silly at all. I believe this is one of
> the best gifts you
> can give to yourself. I myself wanted to go to Salt
> Lake City in
> several occasions, but I just haven't had the time.
>
> According to some nice people that I met at a Family
> History Center a
> while back, you can just go to the Family History
> Library and check
> all the

Going to Salt Lake City

If you live in Los Angeles or the surrounding towns,
the LDS Family Center in Westwood (near UCLA) is also
excellent.  They have tons of microfilm from Mexico.

Alberto.

--- sgapodaca  wrote:

> 
> That is not silly at all. I believe this is one of
> the best gifts you 
> can give to yourself. I myself wanted to go to Salt
> Lake City in 
> several occasions, but I just haven't had the time. 
> 
> According to some nice people that I met at a Family
> History Center a 
> while back, you can just go to the Family History
> Library and check 
> all the films they have there. However, it is a good
> idea to call 
> them in advance just to make sure that some specific
> films you are 
> looking forward to check are there. They could be at
> another FHC in 
> the US at this time, but of course, if you have
> several surnames and 
> locations to research, I believe that a trip to Salt
> Lake City is 
> worth it. Well, that is just my opinion. I am sure
> that other members 
>

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Going to Salt Lake City

Alicia, I made the trip several years ago and was disappointed to find that
all of the Mexico records were in the vault and, therefore, unavailable
without prior reservation. Perhaps this situation has changed by now.
However, I would suggest that you call or write and reserve those films you
wish to view, just to be sure. Evie


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Going to Salt Lake City

That is not silly at all. I believe this is one of the best gifts you 
can give to yourself. I myself wanted to go to Salt Lake City in 
several occasions, but I just haven't had the time. 

According to some nice people that I met at a Family History Center a 
while back, you can just go to the Family History Library and check 
all the films they have there. However, it is a good idea to call 
them in advance just to make sure that some specific films you are 
looking forward to check are there. They could be at another FHC in 
the US at this time, but of course, if you have several surnames and 
locations to research, I believe that a trip to Salt Lake City is 
worth it. Well, that is just my opinion. I am sure that other members 
from this group will reply to your message and tell you what they 
think about your trip.

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? Located at 35 North West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah, 84150-
3400

Travel to Mexico

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Where in Mexico are you interested in going and
when?

Going to Salt Lake City



This may seem like a silly question to some, but for my birthday in March, I plan on gifting myself a trip to Salt Lake City to do some genealogical research. My question to those who are experienced at this is, do you need to request and reserve your film there ahead of time? or can you just arrive and make the request at the time of arrival?


Thanks for your help and if there's anything else I should know before I go, it would be great to glean that from this group.


Muchas Gracias, Alicia..................

Travel to Mexico

Josefina,


I might be interested in something like that, but it could be a problem if we are interested in visiting different areas. 

 

Alice   

 


josefina_gonsalez
wrote:


It would be very cool if members of the group were interested in
travelling to Mex. to visit some of these areas and get more
information. I wanted to go very badly last year, but found that I
would have to go it alone.  Is there anyone else out there who is in
this situation?





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Travel to Mexico

It would be very cool if members of the group were interested in 
travelling to Mex. to visit some of these areas and get more 
information. I wanted to go very badly last year, but found that I 
would have to go it alone.  Is there anyone else out there who is in 
this situation?




Listas De Passajeros


I know this website is for Cuba but there are a lot of resources
available through this site namely people and groups that have studied
this topic in depth and might be a good source to lead you to the
information you seek. If you find more info please post it to ranchos.


thanks,

joseph

http://www.cubagenweb.org/e-pass.htm



SHIPS AND PASSENGER LISTS for Mexico

go to the archives and look at these messages: #519





. . .and then there was the following related discussion awhile back:


Here are two other links to some registration instructions (one in
English, and another in Spanish) for the website:
 
 
 
 
Rosalinda
 
 
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okay here is my try:



1) Being very careful to only use the latest version of Microsoft
Internet Explorer go to:

http://aer.mcu.es/sgae/index_aer.jsp

2) then click on "Alta de usario"

Fill out the form making sure to scroll down to the place where you pick your login and password.

3) click "Acceptar"

and a pop up window will open with your "Tarjeta National de Investigador" number. Write this number down.

4) and

SHIPS AND PASSENGER LISTS for Mexico

I would like to know too.

Alberto.
--- yolanda medina-perez 
wrote:

> 
> Here I go again with the questions but no one that I
> have spoken to 
> has been able to help thus far.  I understand that
> there were at 
> least two ports of entry in Mexico back in the early
> 1800's, one was 
> in Vera Cruz and the other was Tampico. Quien Sabe? 
> Certainly there 
> must have been a trail of paper work MANIFESTS
> PASSENGER LISTS 
> BIRTHS AND DEATHS for the ships. BUT WHERE ARE THEY?
> I understand 
> that there is a site in Spain where passengers would
> 
> register "Indice de las Indias"  How does one go
> about getting 
> information at this site, where do I begin? or is
> there a place in 
> Mexico????
> 
> Yolanda
> 
> 
> 
> 


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SHIPS AND PASSENGER LISTS for Mexico

Here I go again with the questions but no one that I have spoken to 
has been able to help thus far.  I understand that there were at 
least two ports of entry in Mexico back in the early 1800's, one was 
in Vera Cruz and the other was Tampico. Quien Sabe?  Certainly there 
must have been a trail of paper work MANIFESTS PASSENGER LISTS 
BIRTHS AND DEATHS for the ships. BUT WHERE ARE THEY? I understand 
that there is a site in Spain where passengers would 
register "Indice de las Indias"  How does one go about getting 
information at this site, where do I begin? or is there a place in 
Mexico????

Yolanda




Books from Berkeley: Haciendas/AguascalientesYLosAltos/Governors/Maps/Militar/SanMiguelElAlto/

Well I guess everyone is noticing that I've discoved the UC Berkeley
library's online catalog. UC Berkeley has a fabulous collect of
materials for all three of our target area states and Mexico in general.
I'd suggest you all spend sometime cruising around their catalog.


Again if any of you feel that your inbox is starting to get cluttered
then either go to Yahoo and change your subsciption from individual
emails to the Digest version or let me know and I'll do it for you.


I wished I lived close enough to go to the Bancroft Library often. I
would go there and to SLC as often as I could.


joseph
=================================

Title Por las haciendas de Jalisco / Olivia Campos de Gallo ; prologo
de Jose Maria Muria.

  	Author 	Campos de Gallo, Olivia.
  	Edition 	1a ed.

Place/Publisher Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico : Universidad de
Guadalajara,

  	Date 	1998.
  	Description 	120 p. : ill. ; 23 cm.
  	Notes 	Includes bibliographical references (p. 118).
  	Subject

San Miguel el Alto/Arandas


Title
size="-1">Apuntes geograficos, estadisticos e historicos del municipio
de San Miguel el Alto, estado de Jalisco, Mex.
  Author
size="-1">
href="http://sunsite5.berkeley.edu:8000/WebZ/QUERY?sessionid=01-51706-432733644&termsrch-pa%3D=Medina+de+la+Torre%2C+Francisco*&next=html/resultsframe.html&bad=error/badsearchframe.html&entitytoprecno=1:entitycurrecno=1:numrecs=20:key1=Date:direction1=d:key2=Author:direction2=a:key3=Title:direction3=a:key1=Date:direction1=d:key2=Author:direction2=a:key3=Title:direction3=a"
target="main">Medina de la Torre, Francisco.
 
  Place/Publisher
size="-1">Arandas, Jalisco, E. Medina,
  Date
size="-1">1908.
  Description
size="-1">2 p. l., 133 p., 1 l. 22 cm.
  Series
size="-1">
href="http://sunsite5.berkeley.edu:8000/WebZ/QUERY?sessionid=01-51706-432733644&termsrch-se%3A=Santamir%23ia+collection+Miscellaneous+pamphlets&next=html/resultsframe.html&bad=error/badsearchframe.html&entitytoprecno=1:entitycurrecno=1:numrecs=20:key1=Date:direction1=d:key2=Author:direction2=a:key3=Title:direction3=a"
target="main">Santamir#ia collection. Miscellaneous pamphlets.

[v.3]

 Santamir#ia collection. Miscellaneous pamphlets. [v.3]

  Subject Headings
size="-1">
href="http://sunsite5.berkeley.edu:8000/WebZ/QUERY?sessionid=01-51706-432733644&termsrch-su%3D=San+Miguel+el+Alto+Mexico&next=html/resultsframe.html&bad=error/badsearchframe.html&entitytoprecno=1:entitycurrecno=1:numrecs=20:key1=Date:direction1=d:key2=Author:direction2=a:key3=Title:direction3=a"
target="main">San Miguel el Alto (Mexico)
 

  Geographical Access
size="-1">Mexico - Arandas
  Holdings
Bancroft
F1391.S2M4;


Nochistlan/Folklore/Teocaltiche/Chimalhuacanos/Lagos/


Title Genealogia
de Nochistlan antiguo reino de la Nueva Galicia en el siglo XVII segun
sus archivos parroquiales / Jose Luis Vazquez y Rodriguez de Frias.
  Author Vazquez y Rodriguez de Frias, Jose Luis. 
  Edition 1. ed.
  Place/Publisher Ciudad Juarez, Mexico : Editorial El Labrador,
  Date [2001]
  Description xx, 475 p. : ill. ; 29 cm.
  Notes Includes index.

  Subject Headings Mexico -- Genealogy. 

Vasquez family. 

Rodriguez family. 

  Geographical Access Mexico - Ciudad Juarez
  Holdings
Bancroft CS110
.V39 2001;

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Atotonilco/LosAltos/LaMuerte/Tequila/Chichimecas/

Title Compilacion de datos para la historia de Atotonilco el Alto,
Jalisco / Luis Orozco Vazquez.
  Author Orozco Vazquez, Luis. 
  Place/Publisher [Mexico : s.n.,
  Date between 1986 and 1992]
  Description viii, 376 p. : ill., maps ; 22 cm.
  Notes Includes bibliographical references (p. 370-371).

  Subject Headings Atotonilco el Alto (Mexico) -- History. 

  Geographical Access Mexico - Mexico City
  Holdings
Bancroft
F1391.A89 O761 1986;

Bancroft
Library closed Summer 2005, reopening in temporary quarters during
2005-2007. For construction information:
http://bancroft.berkeley.edu/info/move/; or 510 643-3871.
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Musica de Los Altos de Jalisco


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Add BookMark  Title Musica campesina de Los Altos de Jalisco. Sound recording
[1. ed.]
  Place/Publisher [Mexico] Instituto Nacional de Antropologia e Historia.
  Date INAH 17.
  Description 1 disc. 33?/? rpm. 12 in.
  Notes Title from container.

Program notes and texts of the songs in Spanish (4 p.) inserted in
container.

El
pajonal; jarabe-cancion. El gallito; jarabe. Los cebolleros de Santa
Ana abajo; corrido. Sones de danza de apaches. El triste valle donde yo
naci; cancion. Los panaderos; jarabe.--Antonio; cancion. El pavido
navido; jarabe. Corrido del maiz caro. El sauz; jarabe. Corrido del
Jiri Alte~no. El cubanita; danza habanera.

Traditional songs, ballads, and dances from the Los Altos district of
the State of Jalisco; performed by