Hello Patricia -
I have been to Ayo El Chico also about 4 years ago when my husband and I took my mother there for the first time. In fact she was the first in her family to ever visit Ayo El Chico. We videotaped and photographed the whole event which I would like to turn into a documentary some day. I've been to Ayo El Chico twice. We made fast friends with the notary at the local church called La Nuestra Senora de la Soledad. Every time we have visited we made a donation to the church and brought some nice candys for the notary. They know me pretty well at the church now as I corresponded with a nice notary named Josefina who always did some research for me. On my last trip they allowed me to use my scanner to copy some records. I was very careful handling these very old parish records. You probably know more about the history of Ayo El Chico than I do and would very much like any info. that you might have on this area.

These are the names that I found per my Duenas line:
Found these on Batch No: M604479 Source Call No: 0280789
Jose Casimiro Duenas Christened: Mar 11, 1809, San Agustin, Ayo El Chico, Jal. Mexico
Parents are:
Juan de los Santos Duenas & Maria Antonia Abad de Jesus Damiana Olmos married Feb. 23, 1784 San Agustin, Ayo El Chico, Jal. Mexico
Children of Juan and Maria Antonia are:
Maria Jacinta Duenas born 1816 in La Agua Caliente, Jal. Mex., marries Juan Pablo Navarro on Feb. 19, 1835 in San Agustin, Ayo El Chico, Jal. Mex.

Maria Ynes Duenas born 1815 (don't know local yet), marries Mateo Aguilar on Feb. 12, 1840, San Agustin, Ayo El Chico, Jal. Mex.

Gregoria Duenas born 1800 (don't know local yet), marries Jose Senon Rodrigues on Feb. 8, 1815, San Agustin, Ayo El Chico, Jal. Mex.

Jose Maria Duenas born 1795 (don't know local yet), marries Juana Gertrudis Camargo on April 19, 1815, Ayo El Chico, Jal. Mex.

Jose Perfecto Duenas (no birth year or local yet), marries Antonia Gutierres on July 26, 1815, Ayo El Chico, Jal. Mex.

Nasaria Duenas born 1802 (don't know year or local yet), marries Jose Rosalino Camargo on Oct. 30, 1822, Ayo El Chico, Jal. Mex.

Check out batch M604481 where a line of Duenas can be found in Santa Rita. Perhaps there is a connection?? I didn't search for any offspring yet for any of these Duenas as I am still trying to trace the direct Luna line.
Let me know if I can provide more info.
Yolanda

----- Original Message ----
From: patricia burton
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2007 6:22:36 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jose Casimiro DUENAS

Dear Yolanda--

I just read your information and found it very
exciting. My husband and I returned from almost 3
weeks vacation in Jalisco, Mexico on Thursday. We
spent 2 days in Guadalajara before going out to the
countryside.

Most of my research for my husband who is a GODINEZ
Garcia has been in the ranchos of Atotonilco el Alto,
which is the municipio right next to the Municipio of
Ayotlan. In the past, it was called Ayo el Chico.
The majority of the time we spent renovating the
family home which is located in Santa Rita, Ayotlan,
Jalisco. While at the Guadalajara airport, I bought a
map of Jalisco and to my dismay found it did not show
Santa Rita, a small town of about 5,000 people. It
did show other nearby places and some of those are
even smaller than Santa Rita.

I have one Casimiro DUENAS for whom I am looking. He
is listed as the father of Jose Refugio DUENAS. He
was not married to the mother of Jose Refugio. She
was listed as Rafaela LUQUE. The information on the
parents of this illigitimate child comes from the
marriage record of Jose Refugio DUENAS and his wife,
Bernardina del Refugio CHOLICO. They wed in
Atotonilco el Alto on 26 April 1882. Most of the
time, it seems that she used the name of Refugio
CHOLICO and her birthdate was 20 May 1862 in
Salitrillo, Atotonilco el Alto, Jalisco, Mexico.
Other inportant family names on the tree of Bernardina
del Refugio are SEPULVEDA and MONTANO.

I have been looking for Calixta DUENAS born about 1857
in Valle, , Jalisco for almost 30 years. She was the
daughter of Anastacio DUENAS and Vicenta LOMELIN.
Except for Calixta's marriage to Fermin GUTIERREZ on
10 Feb 1876 in Atotonilco el Alto, Jalisco, I have not
been able to go any further back, only forward.
Apparently she was an orphan and I have not been able
to find birth, marriage, nor death information on her
parents.

If you have any further information on DUENAS lines in
the Ayo el Chico or Atotonilco el Alto areas, I would
like to hear about it.

I work at a Family History Center each week and I will
take your names along for those of the Ayo el Chico
area. I have a number of films on indefinte loan and
some cover the earlier years. I also have the 1930
Census of Ayo el Chico, which is a very good starting
point for researching. I will see if I can add
anything to what you have listed which seems to be
excellent.

I wish you well and hope to hear from you soon.

Patricia Diane Godinez AKA Patricia Burton
San Diego, Ca.

PS The GUTIERREZ names I have researched are from
Nochistlan, Zacatecas.

--- Yolanda Ochoa wrote:

> Hello Joseph,
> Here is my maternal family history per the group's
> request:
> 1)
>
> My grandparents:
> Petra Zuniga Luna:
> B: May 23, 1902, Ayo El Chico, Jalisco Mexico, D:
> Sept. 14, 1991, Los Angeles, California
> Lorenzo Cisneros Gutierrez:
> B: Aug. 10, 1895, Sierra Mojada, Coahuila Mexico, D:
> Sept. 22, 1975
> Marriage date: July 22, 1919, Los Angeles,
> California
> 2) My great grandparents:
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> Francisco Duenas Luna
>
> B: Oct. 4, 1881 Ayo El Chico, Jalisco, Mexico,
>
> D :Feb. 8, 1958 in Imperial Valley, Calif.
>
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>
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> Mercedes Gutierrez Zuniga:
> B: Sept. 24, 1878 in Ayo El Chico, Jalisco,
> Mexico
>
>
> D: May 22,1966, Imperial Valley, Calif.
>
> 3) Both sets of great great grandparents:
>
>
> Felix Alvarez Zuniga
> & Victoria Gonzales Gutierrez
>
>
> Married
> June 2, 1875 in Ayo El Chico, Jalisco Mexico
>
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> Esteban Diosdado Luna & Maria Del Refugio Duenas
>
>
> Married
> Feb. 11, 1863 in Ayo El Chico, Jalisco Mexico
>
> 4) Both sets of great great great grandparents:
>
>
> Jose Eligio Luna B: 1809 Agua Caliente, Chihuahua,
> Mexico
>
> Maria Guadalupe De Jesus Diosdado B: 1817 Ayo El
> Chico
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> Married June 15, 1836, Ayo El Chico, Jalisco Mexico
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> Jose Casimiro Duenas B: 1809 Ayo El Chico & Maria
> Gertrudis Rodriguez B:?
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> Married February 11, 1834, Atotonilco el Alto
> Jalisco,Mexico
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>
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>
>
> Francisco
> Bernardo Zuniga & Luisa Sanchez Alvarez
>
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> Married Feb. 8, 1834 in Ayo El Chico,
> Jalisco Mexico
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> Pioquinto Gutierrez & Maria
> Carmen Gonzales
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> Married Jan. 7, 1844 Ayo El Chico, Jalisco, Mexico
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> 5) Great great great great grandparents
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> Jose Antonio Luna & Josefa
> Navarro
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> Marriage date 1818?
> Jose Justo De
> Diosdado & Maria Rosalia de Jesus Camargo Ramires
> Married May 11, 1812, Ayo El Chico, Jalisco Mexico
>
>
>
> Jose de los
> Santos Duenas & Maria Antonia Abad de Jesus Damiana
> Olmos
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> Married Feb, 13, 1784 Ayo El Chico, Jalisco, Mexico
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> Jose Anastascio Bernardo Zuniga & Gertrudis Quintero
> Avino
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> Married
> June 14, 1802 in Ayo El Chico, Jalisco Mexico
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> Jose Alvarez
> & Maria Josefa Sanchez
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> Married June 11, 1793, Ayo El Chico, Jalisco Mexico
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> Santos Gutierrez
> & Clara Mendes marriage date unknown
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