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To Richard R.--
My husband has OLMOS in his family tree. His OLMOS are from the Ayo el Chico area. Can you be more specific with your Luis LOMELINI and OLMOS details?
Thanks.
Sincerely,
Patricia BURTON
San Diego, Ca.
--- On Sun, 2/22/09, Ricci, Richard wrote:
> From: Ricci, Richard
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Luis LOMELINI???
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Sunday, February 22, 2009, 7:47 PM
> the lomelin olmos line descends from luis lomelin and not
> carlos
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org on behalf
> of patricia burton
> Sent: Sun 2/22/2009 7:36 PM
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Luis LOMELINI???
>
>
>
> To Richard R.--
>
> My husband comes from the LOMELI/LOMELIN/ LOMELINI line. I
> have worked on part of the lines of Miguel HIDALGO, namely
> the ones that come from the GALLAGA part of the family.
> Would you please give some details on this brother of Carlos
> LOMELINI and how he fits into the Padre Miguel HIDALGO
> family tree? Many thanks.
>
> Sincerely,
> Patricia BURTON
> San Diego, Ca.
>
>
> --- On Sat, 2/21/09, Ricci, Richard
> wrote:
>
> > From: Ricci, Richard
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thank You
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 2:18 PM
> > My notes have him as Carlos' brother. He is also
> the
> > ancestor of one of miguel Hidalgos lines. Miguel
> Hidalgo
> > Costilla descends from both brothers. The
> Lomelin's from
> > Puebla and Mexico City descend from Luis. Back then
> the
> > records show lomelin. Before that it is Lomellini or
> > lomelini. It wasn't until later that people
> started
> > dropping the n. In Portugal the lomelin line added an
> o to
> > make Lomelino. And the stories are true about one
> branch
> > leaving Genoa , going to Spain and cornering the slave
> trade
> > there. There rest of the family was into more
> legitimate
> > businesses.
> > There is a famous book that uses the Lomelini as the
> main
> > characters in the book. I have own a copy of the book
> but I
> > lent it to my niece and she hasn't returned it
> yet. I
> > have not read it because she was visiting when it
> arrived
> > and immediately asked to borrow it.
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org on
> behalf
> > of Daniel M?ndez del Camino
> > Sent: Fri 2/20/2009 11:46 PM
> > To: Patty Hoyos
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thank You
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > wHAT INFO DO OU HAVE ON LUíS LOMELINI? I HAVE NEVER
> HEARD
> > OF HIM JUST CARLO. -tHANKS. dANIEL
> >
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Luis LOMELINI and OLMOS
Joseph (Guiseppe) Luis Lomelin, brother to Jn.Carlo Domingo Lomelin, was married Maria del Olmo
Joseph Luis Lomelin and Maria del Olmo were the parents of Maria Lomelin del Olmo
Maria Lomelin del Olmo and Juan de Viilasenor Reus y Patino Peirerea were the parents of Pedro Viilasenor
Just recently somone posted a genealogy showing the relationship among the leaders of the revolution. You can follow the rest of the line there to Miguel Hidalgo Costilla. There are lots of genealogies, some from well known genealogist, purporting to show his family tree. They have some mistakes but there is a reason for those mistakes because of circumstances. I have the documentation showing how it was an uncle or grandparent raising the child due to early deaths.
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From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org on behalf of patricia burton
Sent: Mon 2/23/2009 5:06 AM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Luis LOMELINI and OLMOS
To Richard R.--
My husband has OLMOS in his family tree. His OLMOS are from the Ayo el Chico area. Can you be more specific with your Luis LOMELINI and OLMOS details?
Thanks.
Sincerely,
Patricia BURTON
San Diego, Ca.
--- On Sun, 2/22/09, Ricci, Richard wrote:
> From: Ricci, Richard
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Luis LOMELINI???
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Sunday, February 22, 2009, 7:47 PM
> the lomelin olmos line descends from luis lomelin and not
> carlos
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org on behalf
> of patricia burton
> Sent: Sun 2/22/2009 7:36 PM
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Luis LOMELINI???
>
>
>
> To Richard R.--
>
> My husband comes from the LOMELI/LOMELIN/ LOMELINI line. I
> have worked on part of the lines of Miguel HIDALGO, namely
> the ones that come from the GALLAGA part of the family.
> Would you please give some details on this brother of Carlos
> LOMELINI and how he fits into the Padre Miguel HIDALGO
> family tree? Many thanks.
>
> Sincerely,
> Patricia BURTON
> San Diego, Ca.
>
>
> --- On Sat, 2/21/09, Ricci, Richard
> wrote:
>
> > From: Ricci, Richard
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thank You
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 2:18 PM
> > My notes have him as Carlos' brother. He is also
> the
> > ancestor of one of miguel Hidalgos lines. Miguel
> Hidalgo
> > Costilla descends from both brothers. The
> Lomelin's from
> > Puebla and Mexico City descend from Luis. Back then
> the
> > records show lomelin. Before that it is Lomellini or
> > lomelini. It wasn't until later that people
> started
> > dropping the n. In Portugal the lomelin line added an
> o to
> > make Lomelino. And the stories are true about one
> branch
> > leaving Genoa , going to Spain and cornering the slave
> trade
> > there. There rest of the family was into more
> legitimate
> > businesses.
> > There is a famous book that uses the Lomelini as the
> main
> > characters in the book. I have own a copy of the book
> but I
> > lent it to my niece and she hasn't returned it
> yet. I
> > have not read it because she was visiting when it
> arrived
> > and immediately asked to borrow it.
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org on
> behalf
> > of Daniel M?ndez del Camino
> > Sent: Fri 2/20/2009 11:46 PM
> > To: Patty Hoyos
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thank You
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > wHAT INFO DO OU HAVE ON LUíS LOMELINI? I HAVE NEVER
> HEARD
> > OF HIM JUST CARLO. -tHANKS. dANIEL
> >
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Luis LOMELINI and OLMOS
The descent from Jn carlo D. Lomelin, if I remember correctly is that his daughter from Maria Benavides Ramos is named maria lomelin.
Maria Lomelin and Nicolas perez Contreras have a child by the name of juana contreras who married Pedro Gallaga Mandarte. They were the parents of Juan Fernando Gallaga Mandarte the maternal grandfather of miguel hidalgo costilla's mother.
From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org on behalf of Ricci, Richard
Sent: Mon 2/23/2009 8:39 AM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Luis LOMELINI and OLMOS
Joseph (Guiseppe) Luis Lomelin, brother to Jn.Carlo Domingo Lomelin, was married Maria del Olmo
Joseph Luis Lomelin and Maria del Olmo were the parents of Maria Lomelin del Olmo
Maria Lomelin del Olmo and Juan de Viilasenor Reus y Patino Peirerea were the parents of Pedro Viilasenor
Just recently somone posted a genealogy showing the relationship among the leaders of the revolution. You can follow the rest of the line there to Miguel Hidalgo Costilla. There are lots of genealogies, some from well known genealogist, purporting to show his family tree. They have some mistakes but there is a reason for those mistakes because of circumstances. I have the documentation showing how it was an uncle or grandparent raising the child due to early deaths.
________________________________
From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org on behalf of patricia burton
Sent: Mon 2/23/2009 5:06 AM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Luis LOMELINI and OLMOS
To Richard R.--
My husband has OLMOS in his family tree. His OLMOS are from the Ayo el Chico area. Can you be more specific with your Luis LOMELINI and OLMOS details?
Thanks.
Sincerely,
Patricia BURTON
San Diego, Ca.
--- On Sun, 2/22/09, Ricci, Richard wrote:
> From: Ricci, Richard
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Luis LOMELINI???
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Sunday, February 22, 2009, 7:47 PM
> the lomelin olmos line descends from luis lomelin and not
> carlos
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org on behalf
> of patricia burton
> Sent: Sun 2/22/2009 7:36 PM
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Luis LOMELINI???
>
>
>
> To Richard R.--
>
> My husband comes from the LOMELI/LOMELIN/ LOMELINI line. I
> have worked on part of the lines of Miguel HIDALGO, namely
> the ones that come from the GALLAGA part of the family.
> Would you please give some details on this brother of Carlos
> LOMELINI and how he fits into the Padre Miguel HIDALGO
> family tree? Many thanks.
>
> Sincerely,
> Patricia BURTON
> San Diego, Ca.
>
>
> --- On Sat, 2/21/09, Ricci, Richard
> wrote:
>
> > From: Ricci, Richard
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thank You
> > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> > Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 2:18 PM
> > My notes have him as Carlos' brother. He is also
> the
> > ancestor of one of miguel Hidalgos lines. Miguel
> Hidalgo
> > Costilla descends from both brothers. The
> Lomelin's from
> > Puebla and Mexico City descend from Luis. Back then
> the
> > records show lomelin. Before that it is Lomellini or
> > lomelini. It wasn't until later that people
> started
> > dropping the n. In Portugal the lomelin line added an
> o to
> > make Lomelino. And the stories are true about one
> branch
> > leaving Genoa , going to Spain and cornering the slave
> trade
> > there. There rest of the family was into more
> legitimate
> > businesses.
> > There is a famous book that uses the Lomelini as the
> main
> > characters in the book. I have own a copy of the book
> but I
> > lent it to my niece and she hasn't returned it
> yet. I
> > have not read it because she was visiting when it
> arrived
> > and immediately asked to borrow it.
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org on
> behalf
> > of Daniel M?ndez del Camino
> > Sent: Fri 2/20/2009 11:46 PM
> > To: Patty Hoyos
> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Thank You
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > wHAT INFO DO OU HAVE ON LUíS LOMELINI? I HAVE NEVER
> HEARD
> > OF HIM JUST CARLO. -tHANKS. dANIEL
> >
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Perstorello
I am getting many emails asking for clarification on the connection between the perez franco de paredes line and the perstorello rodriguez Ferreira family from Portugal and the extremadura.
There are several points that I must cover.
1.)Not all the Franco de paredes but the ones that descend from Alonso Perestorello and Luisa Paredes y Franco.
2.)The two most preimminent genealogist of los altos,nochistlan & zacatecas, Jaime Holcombe and Mariano Gonzalez Leal disagreed on the parents of Alonso Perstoriello.
3.)Jaime Holcombe wrote that
Alonso is the son of Diego Rodriguez Herrera (Fererrra) and Isabel hernandez Munoz. He as 3 sons from this relationship. The 3 sons are
Alonso Perestorello
Diego Rodriguez
Francisco Rodriguez
I followed the information gathered from this information
to speculate that Diego Rodriguez Ferrera is from the rodriguez perestorello ferrera family that does descend from the perestorello family of Bartholome.
i followed the line from diego rodriguez Herrera ( ferriera) and Isabel hernandez Munoz back. I was doing research on someone else (Lomelin) when I accidentally stumbled on a couple of records that led me to these speculations.
For those of you that have Alonso Perestorello as son of Andrés Pérez y Franco de Rosillo, and María Toriello (Torielli). this line does not make sense. If Alonso Perestoriello is the son of andres perez and maria Toriello then my work does not connect to them.
These are only speculations, even though they are based on available data. I need to pull a marriage certificate in huelva, spain that should add more infomation and I am not going to spain any time soon.