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I got Francisco Munos de Nava married to Maria Gonzalez as the parents of two brothers (Juan Lopez and Andres Munos de Nava) who respectively married two sisters (Luisa Marques and Luisa de Tiscareno) daughters of Luis Tiscareno de Molina and Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza. Juan and Luisa Marques married first, August 30, 1650 in Aguascalientes, followed by Andres and Luisa, who were married on Sept 3, 1652. Juan and Luisa were the godparents of Andres and Luisa.
I also have Luisa de Nava, daughter of Francisco Munos de Nava and Maria Sanchez, who married Diego Alonso Gonzales de Hermosillo February 25, 1645, in Teocaltiche, Jalisco.
I got a few questions: Is Francisco Munos de Nava one and the same? If yes, is Maria Gonzalez and Maria Sanches the same person? Finally, does anyone has additional ancestral information on the Munos de Nava, Sanchez and Gonzalez lines I mentioned?

Thanks

Jaime Alvarado

Jaime,

Yes, it is the same Francisco Muñoz de Nava. He married María González abt.
1614 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco. Parents of María González were Pedro de
Huerta y Sánchez and María González de Rubalcava; her paternal grandparents
Pedro de Huerta and María Sánchez; her maternal grandparents Alonso González
de Rubalcaba and Beatriz López de Fuenllana. María used both her mother's
maiden name María Ganzález and her paternal grandmother's name María
Sánchez.

Bill Figueroa

Bill,
Thanks for your prompt reply about the question of Francisco Munoz de Nava and Maria Sanchez\Gonzalez. With that information I have been able to tie a couple of loose ends of the amazing web of my Tiscareno-Ruiz de Esparza-Gonzalez de Hermosillo-Munos de Nava lines. Thanks also for the names of the grandparents of Maria Gonzalez.

Sincerely

Jaime

Hello Jaime,

In reference to your question "...is Maria Gonzalez and Maria Sanchez the
same person?" Take a look at familysearch batch #F867689 sheet 042 Source
call #1396252 .... It shows Andres Munoz de Nava as son of Francisco Munoz
de Nava and Maria Sanchez .... Then Maria Sanchez as being the daughter of
Pedro de Huerta AND Maria Gonzales de Ruvalcaba!

Therefore it is quite possible that Maria Sanchez and Maria Gonzales are the
same person ... Of course without seeing the actual documentation it is just
conjecture, but it does seem plausible.

-Angelina-

Hello Angelina,

After seeing your message, I tried to look for the source you mentioned "#F867689 sheet 042 Source call #1396252" in familysearch.org, but had no luck. I am trying to find a document that shows that Maria Sanchez is the daughter of Pedro de Huerta and Maria Gonzalez de Ruvalcaba just like you mentioned, and that document would really come in handy. So far, I have not found any document that shows this. Could you please guide me as to how I can find it in familysearch.org? I am probably doing something wrong. These are the steps that I am doing.

1)Going to the familysearch.org website
2)Click "Search" on top of the page
3) On the section that says "Restrict Records by" I click on Batch Number
4)I enter the Batch Number that you mention, F867689, and I get no results.

Hello Jaime,

I found in "Somos Primos" Sept 2006 (I believe) an article (Descendants of
don Diego Alonso Ramirez de Pedroza) by John Inclan that states that Juan
Munos de Nava was married to Elvira Tiscareno. Then according to
familysearch batch #7516203 sheet 40 Source call #0884527 - she was also
daughter of Luis Ticareno de Molina and Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza. I don't
have any parents for this Juan Munos de Nava .... Could this have been a
third brother that married a third sister? Or could Elvira be one of your
Luisas? I believe John Inclan is part of this group, perhaps he can shed
light on this mystery.

-Angelina-

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