Interesting reading about the Limon last name my mom is from yahualica Jalisco do you know where does the Limon come from I have heard they have shepardic lineage. I would love to know more about this. Cualquier información será muy agradecida

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> 3. Familia de Juan Magdaleno de Don Diego & Micaela
> S?nchez-Lim?n (PacoHernandez73@msn.com)
> 4. Explanation of relationships given in dispensations (Danny Alonso)
> 5. Re: Explanation of relationships given in dispensations (Armando)
> 6. Explanation of relationships given in dispensations (Danny Alonso)
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> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 16:27:30 -0700 (PDT)
> From: PacoHernandez73@msn.com
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> No...thank you (as in your work on the Hermosillos de Montesa)!! All I can
> say is consult the original sources I have cited with Web sources, and really
> look at the troncos and other genealogical data. That's where the real
> goodies are located. In more than one source I have seen Nicol?s de Aguirre
> mentioned as Nicol?s P?rez de Aguirre (see the details of this one here
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18411-65664-27?cc=1874591&wc…
> ), and his wife Mar?a Andrea Alvarez with the full surname Alvarez Tostado.
> I frankly do not know where Nicol?s got the "P?rez" nor where Mar?a Andrea
> Alvarez got the "Tostado" from, but they are obvious indicators that these
> were actual surnames still hidden deeper within the ancestries of their
> families. In other words, mysteries that have yet to reveal their hidden
> secrets. Take the surname Ovalle. Diego Magdaleno and Mariana de Aguirre had
> a daughter called Manuela, who preferred the surnames Oballe (Ovalle),
> Magdaleno, and Aguirre. Ovalle is obviously a reference to Lorenza de Ovalle,
> mother of Diego Magdaleno. She was still referred to as Manuela de Oballe, in
> the 1740s and 1750s when her children were getting married in San Juan de los
> Lagos. Careful not to mix up the names...so close attention. Mariana de
> Aguirre (married to Diego Magdaleno) had a sister named Rosa de Aguirre, bc
> 1670 (married to Eugenio Guzm?n y Prado, b 1666, h.l de Melchor Guzm?n y
> Prado & Jacinta Guerrero-Guti?rrez de Valdivia). Diego Magdaleno and Mariana
> Aguirre, had a son named Juan Francisco Xavier Magdaleno de Don Diego, born
> ca. 1673 (aka Juan Magdaleno or Juan de Don Diego) married to Micaela
> S?nchez de Mendoza y Lim?n (aka Micaela de Mendoza, Micaela Lim?n, Micaela
> S?nchez), daughter of Blas S?nchez de Lara y Mendoza (Blas S?nchez de
> Mendoza) and Mar?a Mart?n-Lim?n de Zayas y Ortega (Mar?a Lim?n or Mar?a
> de Zayas). The names Juan, Diego, Andrea, Mar?a, Rosa, etc., pop up
> frequently in these ancestries, so one has to be careful identifying the
> correct ones. Even more diligent one has to be, when there are mistakes in
> the original sources. And regarding Mar?a Andrea Alvarez "Tostado"...I am
> not thoroughly convinced about her parentage. Not quite "sold" on the
> "official story", if there really is one. Still working on that little
> root-branch of the family tree. SFHL
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 17:53:13 -0700 (PDT)
> From: PacoHernandez73@msn.com
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Familia de Nicol?s (P?rez) de Aguirre &
> Mar?a Andrea Alvarez
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> Aqu? me limitar? en exponer lo que tengo sobre la presente generaci?n - la
> familia de Nicol?s P?rez de Aguirre y de Mar?a Andrea Alvarez Tostado.
> Queda en debate abierto de donde sacaron ambos el utilizar los apellidos
> P?rez y Tostado, y por qu? sus descendientes los perpetuaron. Hip?tesis
> abundan pero verificaci?n falta. Nicol?s P?rez de Aguirre aka: Nicolas de
> Aguirre Born: Abt. 1630 in El Valle de Jalostotitl?n, Jalisco, M?xico Died:
> Unknown .. +Mar?a Andrea Alvarez Tostado aka: Maria Alvarez & Andrea Alvarez
> & Mar?a Andrea Alvarez Born: Abt. 1636 in El Valle de Jalostotitl?n,
> Jalisco, M?xico Married: Abt. 1654 in San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco,
> M?xico Died: Unknown 1..... Catarina de Aguirre y Alvarez aka: Catarina de
> Aguirre Born: Abt. 1655 in Los Aguirres, San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco,
> M?xico Died: Unknown Note: Tuvo una hija fuera de matrimonio con padre no
> conocido, llamada Juana de Aguirre, nacida hacia 1673, en San Juan de los
> Lagos. ....... +N. N., "Padre no conocido" Born: Abt. 1650 in San Juan de los
> Lagos, Jalisco, M?xico Never married Died: Unknown 2..... Mar?a-Anna de
> Aguirre y Alvarez aka: Mariana de Aguirre y Mendoza Born: Abt. 1657 in La
> Estancia de los Aguirres, San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco, M?xico Died:
> Unknown Note: Do?a Mariana de Aguirre, espa?ola; originaria y vecina de Los
> Aguirres, San Juan de los Lagos; hija leg?tima de don Nicol?s de Aguirre y
> de do?a Mar?a Andrea ?lvarez; cas? con Don Diego Magdaleno, antes de
> 1672, en San Juan de los Lagos. ........ +Diego Magdaleno y Ovalle aka: Diego
> Magdaleno Born: Abt. 1647 in Tanganc?cuaro, Michoac?n, M?xico Married:
> Bef. 1672 in San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco, M?xico Died: Unknown Note: Don
> Diego Magdaleno, espa?ol; orig. de Tanganc?cuaro, Obispado de Michoac?n, y
> vecino de San Juan de los Lagos; h.l. de don Diego Magdaleno y de do?a
> Lorenza de Ovalle y Li?bana; se cas? con Do?a Mariana de Aguirre, antes de
> 1672, en San Juan de los Lagos. Father: Diego Magdaleno Mother: Lorenza de
> Ovalle y Li?bana 3..... Juan de Aguirre y Alvarez aka: Juan de Aguirre Born:
> Abt. 1660 in Los Aguirres, San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco, M?xico Died:
> Unknown ........ +Mar?a de Amador Gallegos Born: Abt. 1665 in Santa Mar?a
> de los Lagos, Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco, M?xico Married: 15 February 1683 in
> Santa Mar?a de los Lagos, Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco, M?xico Died: Unknown
> Father: Gabriel Gallegos Mother: Juliana Guti?rrez-Guerrero de Amador y
> Ch?vez Fragoso 4..... Joseph de Aguirre, el Viejo Born: Abt. 1662 in Los
> Aguirres, San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco, M?xico Died: Unknown ........
> +N.N. "Esposa de Joseph de Aguirre, el Viejo" 5..... Joseph Antonio P?rez de
> Aguirre aka: Joseph de Aguirre Born: Abt. 1665 in Los Aguirres, San Juan de
> los Lagos, Jalisco, M?xico Died: Bef. 26 June 1737 in San Juan de los Lagos,
> Jalisco, M?xico ........ +Polonia Ram?rez Born: Abt. 1669 in Santa Mar?a
> de los Lagos, Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco, M?xico Married: Bef. March 1687 in
> Santa Mar?a de los Lagos, Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco, M?xico Died: Unknown
> 6..... Nicol?s P?rez de Aguirre aka: Nicolas de Aguirre Born: Abt. 1668 in
> Los Aguirres, San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco, M?xico Died: Unknown ........
> +Josepha Gonz?lez Born: Abt. 1672 in San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco, M?xico
> Married: Abt. 1690 in San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco, M?xico Died: Unknown
> 7..... Rosa Mar?a de Alvarez y Aguirre aka: Rosa Mar?a de Aguirre Born:
> Abt. 1670 in Los Aguirres, San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco, M?xico Died: Aft.
> 11 February 1753 in San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco, M?xico ........ +Eugenio
> de Guzm?n y Prado aka: Eugenio Guzman Born: 19 December 1666 in
> Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, M?xico Married: Abt. 1695 in Santa Mar?a de
> los Lagos, Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco, M?xico Died: Bef. 29 June 1746 in San
> Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco, M?xico Father: Melchor de Guzm?n de Ayala y
> Prado Mother: Jacinta Guerrero-Guti?rrez de Valdivia 8..... Andrea de
> Aguirre y Alvarez Tostado aka: Andrea Alvarez de Aguirre Born: Abt. 1672 in
> Los Aguirres, San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco, M?xico Died: Unknown ........
> +Juan D?az-Picazo aka: Juan Picazo Born: Abt. 1670 in San Juan de los Lagos,
> Jalisco, M?xico Married: Abt. 1695 in San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco,
> M?xico Died: Bef. 18 April 1718 Father: N. D?az-Picazo 9..... Mar?a de la
> Piedad de Aguirre y Alvarez aka: Maria de Aguirre Born: Abt. 1675 in Los
> Aguirres, San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco, M?xico Died: Unknown ........
> +Clemente de Contreras aka: Clemente Contreras Born: Abt. 1673 in El Valle de
> Jalostotitl?n, Jalisco, M?xico Married: Bef. January 1701 in San Juan de
> los Lagos, Jalisco, M?xico Died: Unknown
> ____________________________________________________________ Incluyo como
> algunas de mis fuentes las siguientes 4 dispensas: 1. Dispensa matrimonial de
> Diego de Aguirre & Felipa de Ornelas y S?nchez - 1715, San Juan de los Lagos
> Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic Church Records, 1590-1979, Guadalajara, Di?cesis
> de Guadalajara, Matrimonios 1694-1796 [Image 186-192 of 557].
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18410-35226-67?cc=1874591&wc…
> 2. Dispensa matrimonial de Luis Antonio de Pedroza & Mar?a-Francisca Xaviera
> de la Concepci?n Alvarez - 1774, San Juan de los Lagos Mexico, Jalisco,
> Catholic Church Records, 1590-1979, Guadalajara, Di?cesis de Guadalajara,
> Matrimonios 1775-1776 [Image 184-182 of 199].
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18433-34331-96?cc=1874591&wc…
> 3. Dispensa matrimonial de Joseph-Francisco de Contreras & Anna Mar?a
> Guzm?n - 1794, San Juan de los Lagos Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic Church
> Records, 1590-1979, Guadalajara, Di?cesis de Guadalajara, Matrimonios 1794
> [Image 115-125 of 1576].
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18411-65664-27?cc=1874591&wc…
> 4. Dispensa matrimonial de Ger?nimo Berdi? & Ana Mar?a P?rez de Aguirre -
> 1804, San Juan de los Lagos Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic Church Records,
> 1590-1979, Guadalajara Di?cesis de Guadalajara, Matrimonios 1804, parte 1
> [Image 584 of 798]
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18416-29867-23?cc=1874591&wc…
> Por favor analicen cada fuente con cuidado por que muy dentro explican
> detalladamente los linajes como escriben los apellidos. Atentamente, Tu primo
> Paco Steven Francisco Hern?ndez L?pez (Steven Francisco Hern?ndez Gami?o
> y L?pez de los Reyes)
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 21:21:56 -0700 (PDT)
> From: PacoHernandez73@msn.com
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Familia de Juan Magdaleno de Don Diego &
> Micaela S?nchez-Lim?n
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> Esta es la familia de Juan Francisco Xavier Magdaleno de Don Diego, conocido
> variablemente como Juan de Don Diego, Francisco Xavier Magdaleno y Juan
> Magdaleno, pero parece ser que ?l y su prole optaban por utlizar el curioso
> apelativo ?Don Diego?. Al investigarlo a ?l, sus hijos y nietos, era
> aparente que Don Diego era un apellido que llevaba el mismo uso que el
> original Magdaleno. Ya despu?s algunos descendientes combinaron los
> apelativos formando el apellido compuesto ?Magdaleno de Don Diego?. Para
> la descendencia limitada en Lagos de esta generaci?n, fue por un tiempo tan
> com?n llamarse Don Diego como Magdaleno. Juan Francisco Xavier Magdaleno de
> Don Diego & Micaela S?nchez de Mendoza y Lim?n tuvieron 6 hijos
> documentados: Juan Francisco Xavier Magdaleno de Don Diego aka: Juan de Don
> Diego Born: Abt. 1673 in San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco, M?xico Died:
> Unknown Father: Diego Magdaleno Mother: Maria-Anna de Aguirre ... +Micaela
> S?nchez de Mendoza aka: Micaela Limon & Micaela de Mendoza & Micaela Sanchez
> Born: Abt. 1676 in San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco, M?xico Married: Bef. June
> 1693 in San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco, M?xico Died: Unknown Father: Blas
> S?nchez de Lara y Mendoza Mother: Mar?a Mart?n-Lim?n de Zayas y Ortega
> 1..... Mar?a de la Piedad Magdaleno de Don Diego aka: Maria de Don Diego
> Born: 13 March 1694 in Jalostotitl?n, Jalisco, M?xico Died: Aft. 18 January
> 1739 in San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco, M?xico ........+Agust?n de
> Valderrama Born: 30 August 1689 in Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, M?xico
> Married: 6 February 1715 in Nuestra Se?ora de la Asunci?n, Jalostotitl?n,
> Jalisco, M?xico Died: Aft. 18 January 1739 in San Juan de los Lagos,
> Jalisco, M?xico Father: Melchor de Valderrama Mother: Nicolasa Monta??s
> 2..... Juan Francisco Magdaleno de Don Diego aka: Juan de Don Diego Born: 7
> January 1698 in Jalostotitl?n, Jalisco, M?xico Died: Unknown
> ........+Mar?a de la Encarnaci?n S?nchez aka: Maria Sanchez Born: Abt.
> 1700 in Jalostotitl?n, Jalisco, M?xico Married: Abt. 1718 in San Juan de
> los Lagos, Jalisco, M?xico Died: Unknown Father: Francisco S?nchez Mother:
> Mar?a Delgado 3..... Pedro Magdaleno de Don Diego Born: 17 February 1699 in
> Jalostotitl?n, Jalisco, M?xico Died: Bef. August 1704 in Jalostotitl?n,
> Jalisco, M?xico 4..... Juan-Joseph Magdaleno de Don Diego aka: Joseph de Don
> Diego Born: 1701 - 1702 in Jalostotitl?n, Jalisco, M?xico Died: Unknown
> ........+Juana de Urz?a aka: Juana Urzua Born: Abt. 1711 in Santa Mar?a de
> los Lagos, Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco, M?xico Married: 15 May 1729 in Santa
> Mar?a de los Lagos, Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco, M?xico Died: Unknown Father:
> Miguel de Urz?a Mother: Antonia P?rez 5..... Pedro Joseph Magdaleno de Don
> Diego aka: Pedro de Don Diego Born: 1 August 1704 in Jalostotitl?n, Jalisco,
> M?xico Died: Unknown ........+Mar?a-Magdalena S?nchez de Mendoza aka:
> Magdalena Sanchez Born: Abt. 1710 in La Laja, Santa Mar?a de los Lagos,
> Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco, M?xico Married: 9 October 1729 in Santa Mar?a de
> los Lagos, Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco, M?xico Died: Unknown Father: Manuel
> S?nchez de Lara y Mendoza Mother: Rosa Mar?a de Cervantes Villase?or
> 6..... Francisco Xavier Magdaleno de Don Diego aka: Francisco de Don Diego
> Born: 20 June 1707 in Jalostotitl?n, Jalisco, M?xico Died: Unknown ........
> +Mar?a-Isabel de Ornelas Born: 23 July 1708 in El Puesto de Mololoa, Santa
> Mar?a de los Lagos, Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco, M?xico Married: 14 July 1731
> in Santa Mar?a de los Lagos, Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco Died: Unknown Father:
> Marcos P?rez de Ornelas Mother: Mar?a L?pez
> _________________________________________________________ Juan Francisco
> Xavier Magdaleno de Don Diego & Micaela S?nchez de Mendoza y Lim?n se
> casaron en 1693, o antes, probablemente en San Juan de los Lagos o en
> Jalostotitl?n. No existe acta de matrimonio, pero s? existen numerosas
> dispensas matrimoniales entre sus descendientes que comprueban su
> ascendencia. Juan Francisco Xavier Magdaleno de Don Diego fue hijo de Don
> Diego Magdaleno y Ovalle y de Do?a Mariana de Aguirre y Alvarez. Micaela
> S?nchez de Mendoza y Lim?n fue hija de Blas S?nchez de Lara y Mendoza y de
> Mar?a Mart?n-Lim?n de Zayas y Ortega. Veanse las fuentes de las siguientes
> 6 dispensas matrimoniales. ____________________________________________ 1.
> Dispensa matrimonial de Antonio M?ximo de Aldana & Mar?a Andrea de
> Villalobos - 1786, Santa Mar?a de los Lagos, Lagos de Moreno Fueron
> dispensados de un parentesco en cuarto grado puro de consanguinidad. Mexico,
> Jalisco, Catholic Church Records, 1590-1979, Guadalajara, Di?cesis de
> Guadalajara, Matrimonios 1786 [Image 575-580 of 681] -
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18401-14115-26?cc=1874591&wc…
> Fuente: "M?xico, Jalisco, registros parroquiales, 1590-1979," images,
> FamilySearch
> (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18401-14115-26?cc=1874591&wc…
> : accessed 30 May 2015), Guadalajara > Di?cesis de Guadalajara > Matrimonios
> 1786 > image 575 of 681; parroquias Cat?licas, Jalisco (Catholic Church
> parishes, Jalisco). ____________________________________________ 2. Dispensa
> matrimonial de Joseph Ildefonso Gonz?lez & Mar?a-Antonia Magdaleno - 1787,
> Encarnaci?n de D?az. Fueron dispensados de un parentesco en tercer grado
> puro de consanguinidad. Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic Church Records, 1590-1979,
> Guadalajara, Di?cesis de Guadalajara, Matrimonios 1787 [Image 84-88 of 2786]
> -
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18411-50260-2?cc=1874591&wc=…
> Fuente: "M?xico, Jalisco, registros parroquiales, 1590-1979," images,
> FamilySearch
> (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18411-50260-2?cc=1874591&wc=…
> : accessed 30 May 2015), Guadalajara > Di?cesis de Guadalajara > Matrimonios
> 1787, parte 1 > image 84 of 824; parroquias Cat?licas, Jalisco (Catholic
> Church parishes, Jalisco). ____________________________________________ 3.
> Dispensa matrimonial de Joseph Benito Antonio de Parga & Mar?a Guadalupe
> Guzm?n - 1796, Encarnaci?n de D?az Fueron dispensados de un parentesco en
> cuarto grado puro de consanguinidad. Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic Church
> Records, 1590-1979, Guadalajara, Di?cesis de Guadalajara, Matrimonios 1796
> [Image 127-131 of 2319] -
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18425-24837-38?cc=1874591&wc…
> Fuente: "M?xico, Jalisco, registros parroquiales, 1590-1979," images,
> FamilySearch
> (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18425-24837-38?cc=1874591&wc…
> : accessed 30 May 2015), Guadalajara > Di?cesis de Guadalajara > Matrimonios
> 1796, parte 1 > image 127 of 1176; parroquias Cat?licas, Jalisco (Catholic
> Church parishes, Jalisco). ____________________________________________ 4.
> Dispensa matrimonial de Joseph Vicente Mac?as Valadez & Mar?a Guadalupe
> Garc?a - 1798, San Juan de los Lagos Fueron dispensados de dos parentescos
> de consanguinidad en tercero con cuarto grado. Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic
> Church Records, 1590-1979, Guadalajara, Di?cesis de Guadalajara, Matrimonios
> 1798 [Image 922-928 of 1963] -
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18413-95664-32?cc=1874591&wc…
> Fuente: "M?xico, Jalisco, registros parroquiales, 1590-1979," images,
> FamilySearch
> (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18413-95664-32?cc=1874591&wc…
> : accessed 30 May 2015), Guadalajara > Di?cesis de Guadalajara > Matrimonios
> 1798, parte 1 > image 922 of 1192; parroquias Cat?licas, Jalisco (Catholic
> Church parishes, Jalisco). ____________________________________________ 5.
> Dispensa matrimonial de Jos? Francisco Guzm?n & Mar?a Cecilia Mac?as -
> 1800, Encarnaci?n de D?az Fueron dispensados de un parentesco en cuarto
> grado puro de consanguinidad. Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic Church Records,
> 1590-1979, Guadalajara, Di?cesis de Guadalajara, Matrimonios 1800 [Image
> 713-719 of 1090] -
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18414-25053-85?cc=1874591&wc…
> Fuente: "M?xico, Jalisco, registros parroquiales, 1590-1979," images,
> FamilySearch
> (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18414-25053-85?cc=1874591&wc…
> : accessed 30 May 2015), Guadalajara > Di?cesis de Guadalajara > Matrimonios
> 1800 > image 713 of 1090; parroquias Cat?licas, Jalisco (Catholic Church
> parishes, Jalisco). ____________________________________________ 6. Dispensa
> matrimonial de Jos? Francisco Severiano Magdaleno de Don Diego & Mar?a de
> los Dolores de Parga - 1802, Encarnaci?n de D?az Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic
> Church Records, 1590-1979, Guadalajara, Di?cesis de Guadalajara, Matrimonios
> 1802 [Image 152-157 of 1930] -
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18405-13263-83?cc=1874591&wc…
> Fuente: "M?xico, Jalisco, registros parroquiales, 1590-1979," images,
> FamilySearch
> (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18405-13394-87?cc=1874591&wc…
> : accessed 30 May 2015), Guadalajara > Di?cesis de Guadalajara > Matrimonios
> 1802, parte 1 > image 152 of 896; parroquias Cat?licas, Jalisco (Catholic
> Church parishes, Jalisco). _________________________________________ I hope
> this helps to clear up any confusions about this generation of the family.
> And perhaps induce new questions for some? Please delve into the sources, and
> integrate each family and you will see how they are related to each other and
> connected to you. Atentamente, Tu primo Paco Steven Francisco Hern?ndez
> L?pez (Steven Francisco Hern?ndez Gami?o y L?pez de los Reyes)
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 21:53:50 -0700
> From: Danny Alonso
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Explanation of relationships given in
> dispensations
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> Thank you Manny for the information and the dispensations links, I finally
> understand how to read them. I have a question about this tree here. On
> Josefa Diaz under her it says m. N.N. does that mean she wasn't married
> when she had Angela Diaz
>
> Andres Martin de Sotomayor......1.......Ysabel Martin
> m. Maria de Isla y Moctezuma............m. Juan Diaz de la Huerta
>
> Andres Martin Camacho...........2.......Josefa Diaz
> m. Beatriz de Mayorga...................m. N.N.
>
> Andres Martin de Sotomayor......3.......Angela Diaz
> ........................................m. Isidro Villalobos
>
> ................................4.......Juana Cayatana de Villalobos
>
> Danny C. Alonso
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 00:24:33 -0500
> From: Armando
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Explanation of relationships given in
> dispensations
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> N.N. means they do not know the name of the spouse or person with whom they
> had children.
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> N.N. - nomen nescio [Latin], name unknown
> N.N. - non nominatus / non nominata' [Latin], not named
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>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 11:53 PM, Danny Alonso wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Manny for the information and the dispensations links, I finally
>> understand how to read them. I have a question about this tree here. On
>> Josefa Diaz under her it says m. N.N. does that mean she wasn't married
>> when she had Angela Diaz
>>
>> Andres Martin de Sotomayor......1.......Ysabel Martin
>> m. Maria de Isla y Moctezuma............m. Juan Diaz de la Huerta
>>
>> Andres Martin Camacho...........2.......Josefa Diaz
>> m. Beatriz de Mayorga...................m. N.N.
>>
>> Andres Martin de Sotomayor......3.......Angela Diaz
>> ........................................m. Isidro Villalobos
>>
>> ................................4.......Juana Cayatana de Villalobos
>>
>> Danny C. Alonso