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Hello everyone. My name is Carlos, I live in Michigan and I am a first generation American to parents born in San Ignacio Cerro Gordo, Jalisco. I'm glad to be a part of and contribute to this group. I am fascinated by history, so researching will be fun for me.

I am interested in researching the following surnames in the Altos Sur region of Jalisco. Primarily (but not exclusively) San Ignacio, and Arandas.

- Hernandez

- Garcia

- Bravo

- Medrano

- Vasquez

- Martinez

- Navarro

Unfortunately, I do not know too much beyond my grandparents, as information was seldom passed down. If you share any of those last names and in the towns I mentioned please let me know.

Cheers,

Carlos

Bacilio Medina (18) is the son Jose Ana Medina and Cirila Samudio

Jose Ana Medina is the son of Pioquinto Medina and Juana Gómez

Cirila Samudio is the daughter of Zenón Samudio and Dominga Vasquez

Macedonio Hernández and Epifanía Balvanera

Macedonio is the son of Juan Jose Hernández and Antonia Rodríguez

Epifanía is the daughter of Gerardo Balvanera and Remigia Vasquez

Juan Jose Hernández is the son of Felipe Timoteo Hernández and Ma. Candelaria Veles (Vela).

Antonia is the daughter of Pedro Rodríguez and Joaquina Salgado

Ma. Candelaria Vela is the daughter of Juan Jose Antonio (Velia) Vela and Ma. Juana Gómez.

Felipe Timoteo Hernández is the son of Feliz (Felix) Clemente Hernández and Felipa Garcia

My grandfather is a third cousin to Santo Toribio Romo. You are also related to Santo Toribio Romo.

Rick A. Ricci

Hello Carlos,

Here are some more of your ancestors:

Silviano Medrano Cuevas and Maria Vasquez married on 24/July/1923

Silviano Medrano (1904- d. 27/Dec/1874) is the son of Sixto Medrano and Alvina Medina

Maria Vasquez is the daughter of Cristoval Vasquez and Maria Trinidad Angel

Sixto Medrano and Alvina Medina married on 1/June/1889.

Sixto Medrano (d. 11/Oct/1948)is the son of Salomé Medrano and Isabel cuevas
Alvina Medina (16/Dec/1869 Valle de Gpe) is the daughter of Juan Medina and Juliana Gutierrez. Juan and Juliana were married on 14/Sep/1860, Arandas.

Juan Medina is the son of Bacilio Medina and Agustina Hernández

Juliana Gutierrez is the daughter of José María Gutierrez and Francisca Angel

Agustina is the daughter of Macedonio Hernández and Epifanía Valvaneda

José María Gutierrez is the son of Juan Jose Gutierrez and Victoriana Dolores Nieves (married 28/May/1783, Tepa)

Maria Francisca Angel is the daughter of José María Ángel and Manuela Flores

Juan Jose Gutierrez is the son of juan Marcelino Gutierrez and Feliciana Ramirez

Victoriana Dolores Nieves Is the daughter of Juan Marcelino Nieves and Maria Dolores Valencia

Juan Marcelino Gutierrez and Feliciana Ramirez married on 25/July/1764, Guadalajara

Dear Carlos,

It turns out that we are fith cousins. You descend from a half sister of my ancestor Pablo Romo Gutierrez by the name of Maria Norberta de Jesus Romo.

Here is some of your ancestry:

Cosme Martinez Hernández is the son of J. Asencion Martinez and Lorenza Hernández

Maria Irene (Irinea) Navarro is the daughter of J. Isabel Navarro and Marcelina Cabrera
J. Isabel Navarro (d. 20/Jan/1837, 62 years old )Is the son of Ignacio Navarro and Angela Gomez

Marcelina Cabrera Daughter of Leonardo Cabrera Grimaldo and Jacinta Gonzalez

Leonardo Cabrera Grimaldo (b.1845-d. 15/June /1905) is the son of Felipe Cabrera and Maria Grimaldo

Jacinta Gonzalez is the daughter of Epifanio Gonzalez and Maria Norberta de Jesus Romo

Ignacio Navarro is the son of Simon Navarro Gonzalez and Virginia (Higinia)Gutierrez De la Torre.

Angela Gomez is the daughter of Albino Gómez and Nazaria Martin

Epifanio González Romo is the son of Juan de Dios Gonzalez Jimenez and Maria Fulgencia Romo Jimenez

Maria Fulgencia Romo Jimenez is the daughter of Juan Romo and Maria Guadalupe Jimenez

Maria Norberta de Jesús Romo is the daughter of Pedro Romo and Simona Diaz Macias

Albino Gómez is the son of Jose Gomez and Maria Leonides Torres (married 20/Jan/1869)

Jose Gómez is the son of Marcelo Gómez Cornejo and Manuela Martin Padilla.

Maria Leonides Torres Is the daughter of J. Trinidad Torres and Maria Del Refugio López

Maria Nazaria Martin is the daughter of José María Martin and Vicenta Ascencio

Simona Díaz is the daughter of Dionicio Diaz and Maria de San Jose Macias.

Rick A. Ricci
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Hello Carlos,

Your post is 2 and a half years old and I don’t know how far you have gone in your research. You are a distant cousin of mine. You repeatedly descend from the Hernández Gamino family. Here is some information on your family:

Sabino Hernández González (d.15/July/1947) is the son of J. Guadalupe Hernández-Gamino y Padilla and Sirila (Cirila) González y Valdivia. When he passes away he left his wife Guadalupe Hernández a widow. Sabino Hernández had been married first to Maria de Jesus Vivanco.

Maria Guadalupe Hernández (b, 12/Oct/1899)is the daughter of Jose Concepcion Hernández and Maria Dolores Lopez. She was also previously married as she was a widow of Juan Hernández Hernández when she married Sabino. Her first marriage was on 23/Feb/1922. Juan’s parents are Hilario Hernández and Maria Nieves Hernández.

Sabino and Maria Guadalupe were married on 25/Jun/1931 in Arandas, Jalisco, Mexico.
https://sg30p0.familysearch.org/service/records/storage/dascloud/das/v2…

J. Concepcion Hernández(bap.12/Dec/1850) is the son of Felix Hernandez and Francisca Tejeda. (Felix and Francisca M. 12/July/1848)
Maria Dolores Lopez is the daughter of Juan Lopez and Ramona Alvarez. Juan and Ramona were married on 16/June/1858 in Arandas, Jalisco.

Ramona Alvarez is the daughter of Manuel Alvarez and Maria de la Trinidad Miranda.
Jose Manuel Alvarez married 12/May/1819 in Arandas, Jalisco, Mexico to Maria de la Trinidad Miranda
Jose Manuel Alvarez was a widower and his first wife is Maria Catarina Martin.
Jose Manuel M. is the son of Jose Urbano Alvarez and Maria Petra Gonzalez (married 15/June/1780)
Maria de la Trinidad is the daughter of Simon Miranda and Maria Ana Zavala

Marriage record Image 171

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-FWDF-F?i=170&cc=1874591

Jose Urbano is the son of Felipe Alvarez and Maria Teresa Garcia

Felix (Feliz) Hernández is the son of Jose Luis Hernández-Gamino y Hernández and Maria Antonia Gordiana Barba.

Maria Antonia Gordiana Barba (bap 16/May/1790) is the daughter of. Rafael Barba and Maria Margarita de Los Angeles Moncayo Alvarez
Francisca Tejeda is the daughter of Juan Jose Tejeda and San Juana Hernández
Marriage record image 492

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-FQ6X-H?i=491&cc=1874591

Rick A. Ricci

Carlos,

Since you're just getting started, try the following steps. Locate the civil birth and civil marriage records of your grandparents and great grandparents in the civil records for Arandas using ancestry.com, where they're searchable. Those records include San Ignacio Cerro Gordo and they may provide you with the names of your 2x great grandparents. At that point you can then begin to trace your lines further back by using the parish records for Arandas and Ayotlán (formerly Ayo el Chico).

Good luck.

I have read through searching on here that all or most of the Hernandez the Los Altos sur region stem from the Hernández Gamiño line. (Here:http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/22428)

Can anyone here help me confirm or deny this, please? My great-grandfather is Sabino Hernandez-Gonzales born in Hacienda Guadalupe probably in the early 1900's. I don't know anything beyond him.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Hello Carlos,

You don’t provide much information to guide a search into your ancestors. Not all the Hernandez in Los Altos sur region descend from the Hernandez Gamino. The H and the F were interchangeable a couple of centuries ago so some of my Hernandez ancestors were more often known as Fernandez De Rueda which are not from the Hernandez Gamino family.

I would recommend that you gather as much information and records on your grandparents and great uncles and aunts as you can, and use this information to guide your next steps. It is important that you start with your own parents and their siblings records to see if they provide more information on your grandparents.

Good luck,
R.A.Ricci

Thank you for the response. For the time being I am trying to follow my Hernandez lineage as far as I can.

I will try to get some answers out of my remaining grandfather. I'll see if he remembers his grandparent's names, or anything else helpful.

For the time being, I know my great grandfather was Sabino Hernandez-Gonzales(z), born in Hacienda de Guadalupe (Municipality of Arandas) whom passed away around 86 years of age. He was married to Guadalupe Hernandez, born in Arandas whom passed away around 80 years of age. All according to my grandfather.

I was able to find a couple results on Ancestry.com for Sabino Hernandez-Gonzales(z), but cannot find a connection to my grandfather (his son).

Your grandfather.’s parents and grandparents are most likely listed in his baptismal or birth records. Sometimes these records even have great-grandparents. If your grandfather was related to his wife then there may be more information in a marriage dispensation. Ask your grandfather for the names and dates of his siblings. If you can’t find your grandfather’s records then you should look for his sibling’s records.

You can also check out those death records as they often have additional information. You don’t provide any dates so it would be difficult for others to help you without additional information that will help identify your ancestors.

I don't know about Arandas, but in the Colotlan area where my family is from they list grandparents on the Civil Registration marriage records from about 1860-1920. I would try and locate your great grandparents' marriage record. Usually, grandparents are also on the baptisms starting about 1800 and on the birth records.

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