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Does anyone have any information on Maria Velasco married to Geronimo Orosco in Aguascalientes in early 1600? Thanks for your help.

Hi,

Somewhere I read that El Carrizal was located near Ayo but maybe there were other ranches with the same name in other areas of Jalisco (that is what I find nowadays in modern maps).  Does any body know whether it still exists or whether it/they became a town/towns?

It is just curiosity to know in which areas my relatives lived, it is not a matter of going to look for information.

Thank you for your help.

Belinda

I have been doing major research online from home and my local Family History Center in an effort to ensure a more accurate ancestor tree on Family Search for the Ruiz de Esparza family that originated in the Pamplona, Spain area. I’m aware that back in 2016 there were discussions here about this family, but am sharing my experience in case there may be something new and also, in the hope someone here may be able to assist me with questions I’ve encountered. 

The most challenging issue, my main priority, was correcting the extra generation that resulted from the creation of a record for Lope Ruiz Esparza b. 1500 as the son of Lope Ruiz Esparaza Espinosa b. 1510 and Maria Caparroso b. 1533. This record presented Lope Ruiz Esparza b. 1500 as the husband of Anna Maria Díez de Eguino b. 1522 with their child Lope Ruiz de Esparza Diaz b. 1569 (who is the progenitor of the Ruiz de Esparza line in Aguascalientes, Mexico.) Obviously, the son could not have been born before the father and mother!

It was a complicated project to make the necessary corrections and I was very careful use Source documents each step of the way to ensure an accurate tree resulted with Lope Ruiz de Esparza Diaz b. 1569 being the son of Lope Ruiz Esparaza Espinosa b. 1510 and Anna Díez de Eguino b. 1522 who was mother of Lope (the younger) as the result of an additional relationship between Lope (the elder) and Anna Maria Diez de Equino. The birth years may, or may not be correct, as although there was Source documentation for the relationships, there were no specific birth years included. In some cases, there was explanation presented for the estimated years, in others there was none. Any insight, or documentation sources for birth years would be appreciated.

I read somewhere here that Lope Ruiz de Esparza Espinosa and Ana Maria Diaz de Eguino were not married. I located this reference on page 193 of Martin Leal’s Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia, 5-3 Ruiz de Esparza 

 “Anna Díez de Eguinoa is a resident of the town of Raona in Mescoaslaalta; that Lope Ruiz de Esparza is publicly considered to be her natural son and that of Lope Ruiz de Esparza, the elder. That being free, single, and about to be married, she gave birth to the aforementioned Lope Ruiz de Esparza, the younger.”

This states they were “about to be married” so, they may or may not have ever been married, but it clearly confirms the parents of Lope Ruiz de Esparza b. 1659.

In the process of searching for the necessary Source documents I discovered the record below: 

1595 Lope Ruiz de Esparza and Isabel de Ascarraga against Juan de Espinal and Juana Salinas

Content: Lope Ruiz de Esparza, lawyer of the Royal Courts, and Isabel de Ascarraga, his wife, lords of the palaces of Esparza (Galar) and Zariquiegui, residents of Pamplona, ​​against Juan de Espinal and Juana de Salinas, his wife, residents of Pamplona, ​​regarding the scope of accounts of an arbitrary judgment in a lawsuit relating to the payment of interest on a census of 1,500 ducats subject to a house in the Pellejerias neighborhood of Pamplona.

This clearly states that in 1595 Isabel de Ascarraga was the wife of Lope Ruiz Esparza. This has to be Lope Ruiz Esparaza Espinosa (the elder) because there is another Source document that shows Lope Ruiz Esparaza (the younger) on a passenger list to the Indies in 1593. When I looked for the record of Isabel de Ascarraga I discovered that she is presented as the wife of Pedro Ruíz De Esparza y Caparroso b. 1551, son of Lope Ruiz Esparza Espinosa (the elder). 

Then I found this Source document:

1604 ISABEL DE ASCARRAGA vs. JUAN DE HUARTE AND OTHERS
Content: Isabel de Ascarraga, widow of Pedro Ruiz de Esparza, resident of Pamplona, ​​against Juan de Huarte, Barbara Ruiz de Esparza, his wife, and others, residents of Pamplona, ​​regarding the nullity of deeds of obligation and debt contracted by her husband.

It appears that Isabel was the widow of Pedro Ruiz Esparza in 1604, but at the time of the earlier 1595 court action, she was married to his father Lope Ruiz Esparza (Espinosa). Initially it seemed that her husband Pedro must have passed that year, or prior, in order for her to be remarried in 1595.  I also noted that there were numerous court actions against Pedro by siblings and family members for debt he owed. This explains why Isabel was requesting that her deceased husband’s debt be forgiven in 1604.  

Hello I'm a new member. My family is from Zacatecas Mexico. I'm am looking for information on my paternal line. Juan Estrada was born in 1831 to Luisa Ramíres. His father is unknown and he died in Zacatecas Mexico on May 8th, 1863. I was just wondering were the Estrada last name came from because I thought at that time children took the mother's last name. So I am just a little confused about where the Estrada last name came from. 

Hello everyone, 

I'm hoping someone can help me translate what this document says. It's about Francisco de Covarrubias married to Isabel de Rodas. I can figure out a couple of things but was hoping someone with more experience could help me figure out what some of the words say. I attached the document. thank you!

I posted a comment on the previous topic "Lope Ruiz de Esparza 'el menor' is the 3rd cousin to St. Francisco Javier de Jasso," but since it was from 2016, I'm creating a new topic. I recently joined Nuestros Ranchos with hopes of finding more about the Esparza family that originated in Pamplona, Spain, among other challenges. I ran into Nuestros Ranchos while searching for documentation that verifies what is posted on Family Search. Does someone know whether the book mentioned by Rick A. Ricci in the previous topic has been published. If nothing else, the posts here have given me new resources to investigate. I'm happy to share anything new that I might discover, but there's so much here, I don't know whether I'll find more than what's already been shared.  

My tree created using Family Search is in my folder is at  https://nuestrosranchos.org/lambchop48, but the names and dates, especially in the Esparza branch, change each time I look because of updates and merges completed, often without source documentation other than "family" or "facts." My goal is to be able to find and use source documents with correct names and dates, so the trees on Family Search will be accurate. Thanks for any assistance that can be offered. 

i would like to ask about a family dietary  custom 

My fathers Tia Abuela.. always got very nervous if someone ate 

Pork with any Dairy product.  Saying " it would make bumps on the Face ' and admonishing anyone who even considered it.. 

Could this be a handed down Jewish dietary custom. ?

eating a Pork Taco  with cheese is not something i've ever seen in Mexico, and i never have been so inclined.. it doesn''t see to go together. 

Has anyone ever heard of this ?

Hello! My name is Dana and I’m looking forward to learning more, and helping others to learn more about their ancestors. Back in the 1980s I learned how to create a genealogy chart when I took a Cultural Anthropology course in college. That started me on my genealogy research journey. The first step was adding extended family. There was no Internet, or simple way to gather the information, so I started the old- fashioned way by writing for copies of vital records, like birth, death and marriage and contacting family members. I especially focused on the older generations who I knew may not be with us for long. They shared treasured stories and photos.

Over the years I expanded my family tree, but I wanted to know more than just the names and dates. My goal was, and is, to understand the historical context of the locations and gain insight into the culture and migration of my ancestors from Spain, to Mexico, Arizona and Southern California where I was born. Internet opened the realm of possibilities. When I retired about ten years ago I was able to devote more time to reading and research. In 2019 I began using Family Search which enabled me to, not only expand my tree, but identify research resources through the sources attached to records. I found the Nuestros Ranchos site through a note posted on one of my family members records.

 To summarize my ancestors as they relate to Nuestros Ranchos – four of my paternal generations originated in Aguascalientes and eight generations were born and/or married in Jalisco, Mexico with the most recent being my grandmother Ana Maria Gomez who was born in Guadalajara in 1897. Her father was born in Ciudad Guzmán, Zapotlán el Grande. Five prior generations originated in Ojuelos and the earliest generation in Jalisco was in Guadalajara. Martin Perez de Gardea was born in Guadalajara in 1569 and his wife Mariana González de Rubalcava was born in Teocaltiche in 1587. Mariana’s father Alonso González de Rubalcava is my 11^th great grandfather. Subsequent generations of his family founded San Antonio de los Adobes, now known as Union de San Antonio, on one of the most important estates they owned. 

In 1526 Alonso was born in Heras about 10 km from his family’s ancestral home in Liérganes and 14 km from Santander, Cantabria, Spain. He emigrated to The Indies/New Spain when he was an adolescent in about 1540 and originally settled in Pátzcuaro in Michoacán. Alonso fathered a son by an indigenous woman in 1545. By 1560 he was married to a Creole woman, had been knighted and owned land grant in Santiago Copándaro, south of Lake Cuitzeo. He was a rancher and builder. He moved to Guadalajara when he was offered a special commission as master builder to erect Guadalajara's second Cathedral. Construction began in 1565. 

Alonso was married to a Creole woman during this time, but about 10 years later returned to Pátzcuaro where he married Beatriz Baeza López y Perez Santaella in 1570. Her father Capitán Juan Baltazar De Baeza and maternal grandfather Capitán Francisco de Padilla Santaella were conquistadors during the Cortez Expeditions. Santaella was killed in the 1519 Battle of Tabasco. Alonso's maternal grandfather was Capitán Ruy de González Suárez who was also a conquistador with the Cortez Expeditions.

My lineage from Alonso González de Rubalcava is through his daughter Mariana González de Rubalcava who was born in Teocaltiche, Jalisco in 1587, as previously mentioned. Both Alonso and his wife are buried there. The generations that followed settled in Aguascalientes, Jalisco. My information about Alonso González de Rubalcava is from Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia. Alonso de Rubalcava by Mariano González-Leal. 

I've also identified another branch in my lineage that begins with Miguel Ruiz de Esparza born in 1647 in Aguascalientes, Jalisco and goes back to the middle 1300s in what was then part of the Basque region in Pamplona, Spain. I’ve discovered that there was exchange about the Esparza family here back in 2016, but have yet to learn the final results. Perhaps, some of the information I’ve mentioned is helpful to another member of this group. My purpose in joining Nuestros Ranchos is to find documents that verify some of the data that has been entered on Family Search, but not necessarily supported by sources. Vital information like birth dates and locations have been changed and records merged resulting in conflicts that don’t make sense. Through the process I hope to sort out what is accurate through documented sources. My next step is to review more of what has been posted and uploaded here and share what I have that may be of interest.  

Here’s a link to my folder: https://nuestrosranchos.org/lambchop48

I created this map to illustrate the locations I've mentioned in my introduction

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Lope Ruiz de Esparza 'el Menor' is the 3rd cousin of St. Francisco Javier de Jasso

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1). Sancho Ruiz de Esparza, alcalde de la Corte Mayor de Navarra, his wife, Juana Zariquegui are the parents of Simon Ruiz de Esparza. Simon has a sister named Catalina Ruiz de Esparza that is the ancestor of Saint Francisco Javier (Jasso). See her line at the bottom of the page. This Catalina Ruiz de Esparza is not the same Catalina Ruiz de Esparza that had an affair and a daughter with King Charles II.

2). Simon Ruiz de Esparza b. Before 1495 and Graciana Huici (Vici) are the parents of Martin Ruiz de Esparza.

3). Martin Ruiz de Esparza y Huici (Vici), señor del palacio de Esparza (Galar), vecino de Pamplona and Maria de Espinosa (Spinosa) are the parents of Lope Ruiz de Esparza. Martin also has a son named Pedro Ruiz de Esparza.

We have lawsuits from Martin Ruiz de Esparza y Huici (Vici) against cousins and possibly in laws that are using the family name without his permission. His brothers, Lope and Pedro also sue distant cousins. Martin and his sons hold the prestigious titles of señor de Los palacios de Estrada and are suing and asking the court to defend their rights.

4). Lope Ruiz de Esparza (el mayor or el viejo) abogado de las Audiencias Reales, señor de los palacios de Esparza (Galar) y Zariquiegui vecino de Pamplona and Ana Diez de Eguino are not married. They have a (natural) son named Lope Ruiz de Esparza.

5) Lope Ruiz de Esparza (el menor) ( b.1569 d.14 Aug 1651 in Mexico, Distrito Federal) married in 1594 to Ana Francisca Gabai Moctezuma, a descendant of Moctezuma II. Lope has a brother named Capitan Andres Ruiz de Esparza (b.1542) that came to Mexico before Lope. There is a third brother named Pedro Ruiz de Esparza that stayed in Spain. I personally read a primary source document dated 1595 that identified Ana Francisca Gabai Moctezuma as a granddaughter (though it should have said Great granddaughter.)

Lope came over as a "personal assistant"(criado) to a descendant of King Charles III named Enrique de Mauleòn. Lope's ancestor Rodrigo was in the service Kings Charles II and King Charles III. Even though Lope Ruiz de Esparza is the son of a nobleman, he still was in the service of descendant of Charles III, through the Nabarro Enriquez Lacarra line. through another line, Enrique Mauleón descends from King Alfonso XI de Castilla. Enrique de Mauleòn is also a distant relative some of the founding families of Nueva Galicia through his ancestor named Carlos Arellano de Luna.

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1). Sancho Ruiz de Esparza and Juana Zariquegui are the parents of Simon Ruiz de Esparza and Catalina Ruiz de Esparza that is the ancestor of Saint Francisco Javier (Jasso).

2). Catalina Ruiz de Esparza married in 1403 to Juan Antondo y Beteu, Señor de Adocin.

3). Gullelma (Guillerma) Atondo y Ruiz de Esparzamarries Arnaldo (Arnalt, Artel) Perez (Periz) de Jasso, Señor de Idocin (Adocin).

4). Juan Perez de Jasso y Atondo married to Maria de Azipilicuela y Aznar(iz), Señor de Javier.

5). San Francisco Javier aka Saint Francisco Jasso de Javier y Azpilicuela.

Other Ruiz de Esparza tidbits:

The other Catalina Ruiz de Esparza, is a daughter of Juan Periz de Esparza, alcalde de la corte de Navarra y consejero del Rey. She had a daughter named Juana, born by January 1379, from her relationship with King Charles II. This Catalina married in 1397 to Juan de Bearne, Baron de Beortegui. After

Another member of the Ruiz de Esparza family, Maria Miguel Ruiz de Esparza, (daughter of Miguel Ruiz de Esparza) has a relationship with King Charles III. They have a son named Lancelot that is born in April of 1386.

One of Lope Ruiz de Esparza's brothers was in the Americas prior to Lope's arrival in 1593. This brother, Capitan Andres Ruiz de Esparza traveled to Costa Rica where it has been reported that was named Teniente de Gobernador de la ciudad del espiritú santo. He later returned to Mexico City where he left descendants. Some of his descendants later moved into los altos de Jalisco, though the vast majority of the Esparzas in Jalisco descend from Lope Ruiz de Esparza "el Menor".

I have more information in my book about the Ruiz de Esparza family

Source: Mygenes2000 by Rick A. Ricci

(John Schmal, Guillermo 'Bill' Figueroa, Mariano Gonzalez Leal, Mary Lou Mantagna, George Fulton, Jaime Holcombe and others have contributed to my research on the Ruiz de Esparza family)

Does anybody have any information about who are the parents for the siblings Catalina Lopez and Diego Gomez Blanco from Teocaltiche from the early 1600s. I am more interested in the Catalina Lopez line than the Diego Gomez Blanco.

I think that Catalina Lopez might be related to either Catalina Lopez de Nava (Jeronimo Macias) or to Catalina Lopez de Portugal (daughter of Diego Gomez).

I am thinking more related somehow to Catalina Lopez de Nava (Jeronimo Macias) since,

1. Descendants have Lopez de Nava
2. Padrones from Santa Maria de los Lagos in 1669 possibly have her granddaughters (Maria Garcia and Gertrudis Lopez) and in 1676 (Gertrudis Macias).
3. A granddaughter of hers is named Maria Gonzalez (daughter of Francisco Prieto y Luisa Lopez). Possibly in reference to the Maria Gonzalez married to Francisco Munoz de Nava

I am thinking less likely related to Catalina Lopez de Portugal, and only thinking it as possibility since parent is named Diego Gomez.

Hey, My name is Abel Sandoval 

My dad was born in San Blas, Nayarit and his parents were Maria Martinez Llamas born in Union de Tula in est1928, Jalisco and Alberto Sandoval Ramirez I think born in Zacatecas in est1938.

I found my dads baptism paper with his grandparents and parents names:

Los papas de Alberto Sandoval Ramirez fueron Maximiliano Sandoval(creo Sandoval Tovar) y Socorro Ramirez(creo Maria de Socorro Ramirez Ramirez)creo que los dos fueron de Zacatecas. Im not sure how many kids they had but i found a record of a Julia Sandoval that was died shorlty after she was born in Feb 17 1943

Los papas de Maria Martinez Llamas fueron Zeferino Martinez(Martinez Ruiz) y Antonia Llamas(Llamas Arias) los doz fueron de Union de Tula, Jalisco.  They had 11 kids all are deceased. 

Maria Martinez Llamas we think had a family in Jalisco from what people told my dad and ran off with my grandpa. My grandmother got sick after she gave birth to my dad in Nov 18 1966 and went back to Union de Tula and died the next year in Jul 11 1967. I found the record #004846438 on familysearch.org only difference being they tend to spell Zeferino with a C instead of Z in different records. After her death I found records showing some moved moved to California or Tijuana. His dad Alberto also left to Tijuana when he was born and they left him with some people they knew to raise him. When my dad was around 6 or 8 he said his dad came with one of his brothers and his grandpa Maximiliano to see him and then left and never returned. One of his brothers names were Manuel and that's all he knows. I think Alberto and some possible brothers he might have are still alive. I know my dad has brothers and sister on his moms side Maria as well that we don't know about. 

Hi folks, It has been almost a year since I've updated the NuestrosRanchos mtDNA databse located here: http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/19799.  (Node 19799 no longer exists - admin) use node 20642
https://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/20642

 I plan to upload some fresh additions but before I do that - given that more members have tested - I am posting this announcement in hopes that we get more interest and more additions. If you want to add your details, please send me a private message and I will update. Please include: 1) mtDNA Haplogroup (A, B, C, D or X) 2) name of farthest ancestress you can document (mother's-mother's-mother, etc.) 3) date of birth for this ancestress 4) place of birth for this ancestress 5) your email address -------------------------------- Haplogrupos de mtDNA (ADN matrilineal) de los miembros de NuetrosRanchos. Favor de enviarme un mail privado si quieren agrerar su informacion. Subire una nueva version cada mes. Favor de anotar: 1) Haplogrupo mtDNA (A, B, C, D, or X) 2) nombre de la madre ancestral mas lejana, que puedes documentar 3) fecha de nacimiento de esta mujer 4) lugar de nacimiento de esta mujer 5) tu correo electronico

Hola! My name is Jenn Ames and my paternal grandfather, Manuel Amezcua, was born in 1906 in Guadalajara, Mexico. I grew up quite close to my grandparents, however I never knew much about his side of the family or why he left Mexico when he did in 1926 and came to NY. I have been digging into the history of Mexico, primarily Jalisco, and researching every family member and associate I come across. Here is a little piece of what I've collected:

Grandfather - Manuel Amezcua (changed to Ames after coming to the US but not until the 1940s) born 29 Oct 1906

Great-grandmother - Maria Concepcion Amezcua born 6 Feb 1879 in Tala, Jalisco to Ambrosio Amezcua and Maria Eligia Ocampo. She married Porfirio Orozco (born 16 Sept 1868 in Zapopan, Jalisco) in June 1896, and they had 4 children together. Only 2 survived to adulthood and I have family pictures of "Tio Pablo" and "Tia Ana". Porfirio died in Feb 1905 in Guadalajara and their youngest daughter died the following month in Zapopan. I'm not sure when Concepcion moved to Guadalajara after that.

My great-grandfather's name was Manuel Padilla. I have 2 photos of him but no information about where he was born, his parents, when he died. My grandfather had memories of him playing the guitar and the mandolin. 

Concepcion remarried in 1925 to Secundino Enriquez who was widowed the year prior and had a young son. They are listed together on the 1930 census in Guadalajara. 

I'm searching for any information on my family, especially my great-grandfather who is a mystery man at this point. I'm guessing that he was born between 1865-1875 based on her other 2 husbands. He was definitely in the Zapopan/Guadalajara region during early 1906 and was around until my grandfather was a young child. (He had memories of him.) I speculate he may have left during the war to fight with the Villistas when they reached Guadalajara (Dec 1914). My great-aunt "Tia Ana" (Ana Maria Orozco) was married to Carlos Martinez del Campo who fought with the Convencionistas Division del Norte. 

I'd love to learn all I can and thank you for accepting me into the site!

Jenn

Edit to add my link: https://nuestrosranchos.org/Jenna1398

Oh si seme abia olvidado que ya abia encontrado el matrimonio de ellos. Bueno, el matrimonio dice que Nicolas Navarro era viudo de Ines de Robalcaba . Pero no lista los padres de Josepha. So lo dice que ese era el primer matrimonio de Josefa. Sus padrinos de matrimonio fueron Juan Flores y Ana de Oseguera. Los de velasion fueron Juan Flores Estrada y Juana Gonzalez de Mendoza.

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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 15:08:23 -0800
From: Daniel M?ndez de Torres y Camino    
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    Lomelin
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Este ramo de los Hurtado de Mendoza de Ocotl?n descienden de D. Nicol?s Gonz?lez de Mendoza quien fu? bautizado el 16 de febrero de 1636 en Ocotl?n hijo leg?timo de Juan Gonz?lez Florida y Juana Hurtado de Mendoza, postoriormente us? el apellido Gonz?lez de Mendoza. Era nieto de Pedro N??ez de Sotomayor y Ana Hurtado de Mendoza. Esta familia tuv? sucesi?n en Michoac?n (Zamora y Morelia) y en Guadalajara. Dicho Nicol?s falleci? el 15 de julio de 1693 en Ocotl?n y cas? el 20 de abril de 1669 en la misma ciudad. Creio que por aqu? deves investigar. Se fuese Hurtado de Mendoza estar?amos en la direcci?n correcta. Puede ser que sea hermana de Nicol?s Gonz?lez de Mendoza, ya que era custumbre usar el apellido de la madre en cierto casos. Ahora, en relaci?n con el hip?tesis que Nicol?s Navarro y Gayt?n sea el mismo, es possible. Hasta ahora no he encontrado ning?n acta de defunci?n ni casamento. Tendr?amos que localizarlo. S? que Nicol?s Navarro Gayt?n y
Cabrera fue bautizado el 24
de febrero de 1632 en la ciudad ya menecionada. Espero que estas informaciones sean ?tiles.
Daniel M?ndez de Torres y CaminoS?o Paulo - SP - Brasil                        

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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 15:19:43 -0800
From: Daniel M?ndez de Torres y Camino    
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    Lomelin
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Ya tentastes consultar el casamiento de Nicol?s Navarro y Josefa Hurtado de Mendoza? Fueron casados el 20 de junio  de 1675 en Ocotl?n.
Daniel                        

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Hello, I am looking for information about Juana Hurtado. I know her parents were Nicolas Navarro and Josepha Hurtado de Mendoza and that she was baptized on July 8, 1697 in Ocotlan. I was just wondering if anyone had any information about her grandparent. Could Nicolas Navarro's parents be Pedro Navarro y Gaitan and Maria Cabrera? And I don't know who the parents of Josepha could be.

Hola, estoy buscando informacion aserca de Juana Hurtado. Se que sus padres eran Nicolas Navarro y Josepha Hurtado de Mendoza y que fue bautisada el dia 8 de July 1698 en Ocotlan. Alguien tiene informacion aserca de sus abuelos? Pueden ser los padres de Nicolas Navarro, Pedro Navarro y Gaitan y Maria Cabrera? No se quien puedan ser los padres de Josepha.

According to the informacion matrimonial of my ancestor Emeterio Ramirez who got married in Michoacan in 1858 he was 38 during that time and was from Teocaltiche Jalisco. It also says his parents were Santiago Ramirez and Rafaela Ponce but after reading other documents I think his father was actually called Santos Ramirez. 

Most of the files from that era and place including surrounding areas in Jalisco are indexed but I actually checked them anyway and found nothing. Apparently the family moved to Michoacan at some point but the only one who returned or remained there was his sister Josefa Ramirez who married Juan Gomez in 1847 in Atotonilco el Alto, Jalisco. 

I don't know if I'm doing something wrong in my research, I dont have experience with this region so I would like to read other opinions on this brickwall. 

Alguien sabe como se veia el Capitan Pedro de Anda? Una pintura tal vez? Como fue su vida? De donde venia? Que barco? Sus padres? Beatriz Gonzalez de Castañeda? Sus padres?

Hello forum.

The "Universidad Michoacana de San Nicolás de Hidalgo" got some films from "Archivo Histórico Casa de Morelos", the films are in one of the university's libraries. On 2012 they indexed the records in the films.

The good news is this: The films are also available at FamilySearch.

The information in the index is in Spanish, the records are numbered in the sequence they appear in the film. You have to browse the film to find the record you are interested in.

(The first indexed record in film 757243 starts in image 11 of 665. The first record in the film is missing)

Index: http://www.dgb.umich.mx/images/PDF/catalogos_iih/SERIE_03_ANTIGUO_OBISPADO.pdf

FHL film        Year(s)               Item in the index     No. of records

757243         1687                   ROLLO 3/075               117
757245         1687                   ROLLO 3/076                36
757248         1688                   ROLLO 3/077                68
757252         1689                   ROLLO 3/078                64
757253         1689                   ROLLO 3/079               119
757263         1691                   ROLLO 3/080                51
755456         1701                   ROLLO 3/081                69
755458         1699                   ROLLO 3/082                28
766499         1692                   ROLLO 3/083                82
766500         1692-1695         ROLLO 3/084                44
766504         1693                   ROLLO 3/085               117
766507         1694                   ROLLO 3/086                61
766515         1695-1698         ROLLO 3/087                80

I hope you can find some helpful information for your research.

Hola a todos,

Perhaps some of you already know of this, in which case it’s old news, but for some time, FamilySearch has made available access to the padrones of Jalostotitlán, beginning in 1650 (of which those of the 17th century are handily transcribed and published in a series of books by Sergio Gutiérrez, which I highly recommend):

1650-1837 Jalostotitlán padrones: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9K7-WSZH?i=0&cat=2302…

And I just noticed the other day that they have finally uploaded the padrones of 1649 and 1689:

1649 Jalostotitlán: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHJ-27CL-ZCFL?view=explore…

1689 Jalostotitlán: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHN-57C2-XSQP-H?view=explo…

While the rest of these padrones have been available, the 1689 padrón is new to me. This has helped bridge that gap between 1679 and the 1700s - an entire generation!

I hope you find these useful! Saludos,
Manny Díez Hermosillo

Hi Community and thank you very much for accepting me, I've been investigating several years regarding the last name Rosas which is a very common last name in San Martin Hidalgo, Jalisco.

I was able to track my Ancestor Domingo de Roxas which was married to Joana Berrinches and had a son called Domingo Gregorio de Rosas which is also my direct ancestor, Domingo Gregorio was born 1728 in "Cañada de Botas" in Cocula, what I'm trying to know if is the Ancestor Domingo de Roxas was the same that was born in Guadalajara son of Nicolas de Rosas Gonzalez Romero and Ysabel Guzman Paz, since I have not found any marriage certificate from Domingo de Roxas and Joana Berrinches in Cocula, and I reviewed a lot of documents.

If you have something regarding this or if you could point me in the right direction I'll appreciate, or if you are also investigating Rosas I could add to your research

Thanks in advance!

There is a dispensa that I misplaced notes or more likely didn't take notes on it. It lists two brothers: one Bernardino de Isla and the other Bernardino de Sandoval. From what i recall, the visual writing makes it liking between 1700 and 1750, and the relationship was in the narrative form within a paragraph (not separate from paragraph and listed line by line) and likely on the first page. The location was likely either Nochistlan, Teocaltiche, Tepatitlan, or Jalostotitlan.

I have tried searching the dispensas again, but have not found it, which makes me think it might be from a marriage information or from some other location.

Introduction / Any help with  Maria de la Merced Gonzalez de Hermosillo Perez-Franco. is appreciated!

Hi. I am Miguel and am honored to be able to participate in this amazing community.  Thank you Joseph! and Primos.

I’ve been working on a project for my wife for 8 months now on building her family three, but I’ve halted for 3 months on María Merced González (de Hermosillo Perez-Franco) / María (de la) Merced (Cleofás Micaela del Sacramento) González (Pérez)

She is reported on “Familias novohispanas. Un sistema de redes” and ancestry.com as Daughter to Rafael González de Hermosillo Zermeño and Mariana Josefa Pérez-Franco Prido  

• https://gw.geneanet.org/sanchiz?lang=en&p=mercedes&n=gonzalez+de+hermosillo+perez+franco –
• https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/60017/images/004724960_00236?treeid=181476961&personid=332363467212&hintid=1015749845720&usePUB=true&_phsrc=FcP175&_phstart=default&usePUBJs=true&showinfopanel=true&pId=3160814

However, I’ve not been able to match Rafael/Josefa to Merced on any other document (possibly because Mercedes only uses the last name Gonzalez and interchanges Mercedes for Maria de la Merced but mostly because I believe Rafael lived under the siege of the independence war).  I've updated some more info on https://nuestrosranchos.org/mllovera.

I’ve found 7 sources transcribed bellow supporting its offsprings as well as dates and geographical congruence but no explicit reference to Rafael or Josefa. Hence, here are my questions:

1. Are your aware of any other research / document connecting Rafael/Josefa to Mercedes?
2. I only have a snippet of “torres de Jaen”. Would someone have page 314 to look?
3. I’ve tried testamentos https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/35680?availability=Family%2… but I am afraid this would not be successful given that Rafael Gonzalez Hermosillo lived turbulent times during the independence and also have not been able to locate the index for Lagos yet.
4. Any other insight based on your expertise?

The research I have is below:

Hello everyone, first of all, can someone please tell me if a person was born in Valparaiso during 1750-1800's, besides Huejuquilla el Alto, what other film (Parish) can I search through.

I am having no luck because alot of these films are not indexed yet for those years and I am still actively searching page by page images.

Specifically looking for parents of

1)Antonio Feliciano Diaz born around 1750-1760.
2)Maria Felipa Banuelos born around 1750-1760.
3)Manuel Salvador Perez born around 1750-1760.
4)Maria Felipa Carrillo born around 1750-1760.

Antonio Feliciano Diaz was Married to Maria Felipa Banuelos, children Maximo Diaz born about 1782 Huejuquilla and Magdalena Diaz born about 1786 in Valparaiso.

Manuel Salvador Perez married to Maria Felipa Carrillo, children Maria Juana Petra Perez born about 1789 in Huejuquilla (married to Maximo Diaz above)

If you have any one of these names in your Family Tree could you please let me know.
Thank You
Ruben Rojas Delgado

I read the email regarding how helpful and informative the book, Retonos de Espana, was to one of our members. My question is, is the book available for sale, and if it is how do we purchase it? What is the cost?
Thank you.