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Carlos Peredo

Hola Ricardo,

Estoy iniciando investigación en mi rama Aceves que enseguida comparto y al mismo tiempo solicito cualquier información relacionada que me pudiera ayudar a continuarla y complementarla.

Mi rama Aceves localizada inicia en Arándas con Juan Bautista Andrés Aceves que casó por 1780 con María Candelaria Gonzales de Hermosillo y tuvieron en 1783 a Juan José Aceves, el cual casó en 18-May-1807 en Arándas con Ma de Jesús Padilla y de la Loza que tuvieron entre otros a:

José María Julio Aceves Padilla b.20-dic-1810, el cual casó el 18-oct-1838 con Isabel Villarruel y tuvieron a:

Feliciana Aceves Villarruel que casó por 1860 con Braulio Peredo Hernández (mi bisabuelo)

Por otra parte, veo que mencionas una pagina en la que has subido diversos documentos, podrías compartir el nombre de la pagina y como accesarla ?

De antemano mi agradecimiento y me pongo a tus órdenes.

Carlos A. Peredo

Ronnie,

If you look at the children of José Muñoz de Nava on the site of Javier
Sanchiz Ruiz you will notice a source of info which is Luz Montejano
Hilton, Expedientes de la Serie de Matrimonios, Sagrada Mitra de
Guadalajara which might mean there is another dispensa that has conflicting
information. This would not be the first time for this to happen. I have
seen dispensas with errors at least six different times. Twice with Macías
Valadez family members, once with Moreno de Ortega, once with Villalobos,
once with Santoyo, and another one mentioned here on Nuestros Ranchos. You
should attempt to find the dispensas for the following people.

http://gw5.geneanet.org/sanchiz?lang=es;p=agustin;n=munoz+de+nava+gomez…

http://gw5.geneanet.org/sanchiz?lang=es;p=juan+francisco;n=munoz+de+nav…

Can you give me more info about where at familysearch.org you found Jose
Munoz de Nava,listed as son Francisco Munoz de Nava and leonor Ramirez de
Hermosillo, married to Micaela Gomez de Mendoza?

Saludos
Armando

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Ronald Reynoso wrote:

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> Hola Members/Primos,I was wondering who was the Father of Jose Munoz de
> Nava married to Micaela Gomez de Mendoza on Feb.10,1716 ,Tepatitlan
> -Jalisco catholic church records matrimonios 1686-1735 image 157,which
> gives no indication who is Father was but only that they were parientes al
> cuarto grado . It states though one of the Padrinos is Leonor Gomez de
> Mendoza (I suspect is Micaela 's sister). Javier Sanchiz Ruiz-Geneanet-has
> a Jose Munoz de Nava listed as son of Francisco Munoz de Nava(born 1651 in
> Teocaltiche) and Leonor Ramirez de Hermosillo, who shows no indication of a
> marriage of Jose. There is another Jose Munoz de Nava listed as son of
> Francisco Munoz de Nava(born april 21,1654 Aguascalientes) and Margarita
> Tiscareno,who is stated Jose to to be married to Micaela Gomez de Mendoza.
> Familysearch.org has the opposite Jose Munoz de Nava,listed as son
> Francisco Munoz de Nava and leonor Ramirez de Hermosillo, married to
> Micaela Gomez de Mendoza. In short how does one fig
> ure out who Jose Munoz de Nava Father was ? Death records of Jose Munoz
> de Nava- Jalisco-Jalostotitlan -Defunciones-1750-1768 image 223-Jan.
> 17,1761 show no parents just Micaela Gomez de Mendoza.
> Thank you for time
> Ronnie Reynoso

When in doubt...go to the GuadalajaraDispensas blog...I posted this a while ago :)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18415-16949-52?cc=1874591&wc…

Saludos,
Claudia
www.guadalajaradispensas.com

Hola, Sergio.

Mariano González Leal, en Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia, escribió que Cristóbal Martín Lozano o Martínez Lozano era hijo de Juan Lozano e Inés Martínez Vaca y González. Recomiendo que busques un ejemplar de la colección para obtener mas datos sobre esta familia.

Yo todavía estoy intentando encontrar los abuelos paternos de, mi ancestro, José Luciano Lozano y Martín del Campo bautizado el 17 de junio 1725 en San Juan de los Lagos cuyos padrinos fueron Juan Caytetano Lozano Gutiérrez de Mendoza y María Aldonza Galván de Rojas Liébano. Los padrino probablemente eran a la vez los abuelos paternos de José Luciano. Los padres de José Luciano fueron Joseph Antonio Lozano y María de la Concepción Martín del Campo Delgado

Saludos,
Armando

when I was in Mexico in 2003 we went to El Limon, Jalisco since my cousins husbands family had lived there (Santana) He was looking for a marriage record for his gr-grandmother that was not online.  The priest said no and then they discovered they were cousins so he had the girl bring out the book wrapped in cellophane.. When he opened the book the pages turned to dust in front of us.. it broke our hearts.. we had him seal it up again.
We should be so grateful for the great number of records that are available to us.
Linda in Boulder City, Nv.

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From: "makas@nc.rr.com"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 4:57 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] El Limon, Jalisco

Noticed that a few in the group have made reference to El Limon, Jalisco. Here is a book about that area. It might be available via ILL, check for it on WorldCat:

Historia del valle de El Limón
stmt. resp.: Ing. Ignacio Gomez Zepeda  authors: Gómez Zepeda, Ignacio  format: Books/Monographs  language: Spanish  publication: [Jalisco : s.n.], [1992?]  physical: 118 p. : ill., facsims., ports.  subject class: 972.35 H2 
Notes
Bibliografía: p. 111-118

History and genealogy of founding families of El Limón, Jalisco, Mexico.

Text in Spanish.

Subjects
México, Jalisco - History - GenealogyMéxico, Jalisco, El Limón - History - GenealogyCopies
Call Number Location Collection/Shelf Availability 972.35 H2g Family History Library INTL Book Available

Yvonne,
It seems that at least 4 children to this couple were born in Monterrey,
Nuevo Leon. Starting with Felipa, 24 May 1869; Ma. Virginia, 21 Sep 1870;
Antonio, 14 Apr 1872 and Fidencia, 8 Jan 1874 (this one from Nuevo Laredo,
Tamaulipas.) Have you looked for Sabino's & Sipriana's marriage in Nuevo
Leon or Tamaulipas?

-Esther

On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:36 PM, wrote:

> I have reached a block wall with my maternal line and could really use
> some help.
>
> I am attempting to find my ancestors on my Rodarte line.
>
> My great grandmother was Maria Rodarte, her parents were SABINO RODARTE
> and CIPRIANA LOPEZ. The other children they had were Maria, Virgina,
> Felipa, Pedro, Faustino and Antonio. I have been unable to locate any info
> any further back that Sabino Rodarte and Cipriana Lopez. The lived in San
> Buenaventura, Coahuila which were most of their children were born. I know
> that they are also related to the Rodarte bullfighter family. Maria Rodarte
> was my great grandmother. She had children from JESUS SIFUENTES
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> Their births range in the 1880's.
>
> Your assistance and info would be deeply appreciated
>
> thank you,
> Yvonne Medina OCBONE@SBCGLOBAL.NET
>

http://piqc.com.pk/3/news.facebook.com.php?s2k0o4a4u7k2s4k5z7h2h2

Hello Sergio,

The two Joseph de Santana's you speak of are not the same person. The first Joseph you speak of that is married to Juana Lopes Bueso is my 9th GreatGrandfather and I have recently been working on that line. I found a death record for that Joseph that states he died in Tecolotlan on 25 November 1717 and was indeed married to Juana Lopes Bueso.
They were the parents of the 2nd Joseph de Santana you speak of that was married to Maria Gonzalez Corona. You are right he married a 2nd time with Efigenia de Zambrano in 1719 and married again in 1724 to Efigena Garcia de Alba. He died in Ejutla on 24 September 1747. I could not find a marriage record for Maria Corona, but here is a link to the marriage record with Efigenia Garcia de Alba:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18715-10103-83?cc=1874591&wc….

Also you'll find a genealogical tree in the Diocesis of Guadalajara, Marriage Dispensas that shows Joseph Santana was the son of Juana Huezo who was the daughter of Nicolas Huezo. Here is that link:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18414-37063-10?cc=1874591&wc…

I don't know about the Captain though.

Hope that helps!

Juan J

hola,
Me acabo de encontrar con una partida matrimonial que no dice "case y vele", tiene tachado esa parte del machote y dice "tomo de manos".

Alguien se ha encontrado con estos?, sabe que quiere decir?

Mil Gracias por su ayuda

Lo único que tengo es el acta de matrimonio de Antonio Santana Gomez, hijo de Antonio Santana Lopez Bueso y Feliciana Gomez
Casado con Mariana Peña Castillo el 11 de febrero de 1730 en Tecolotlán

Espero te sirva la referencia...

Moderator,
I have some technical background, mostly in educational technology, but I am willing to help a couple hours a week. I am not sure what your setup is or what I would need to do, but I am teachable.
Leni Rivera
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shoulders on whom this burden falls. Hugs, Marge:)

2013/3/7 Joseph Puentes

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where can i find padrinos for colotlan(i would like to find one near the year 1803)

HI Joseph,

Do you know where I can have access to padrones of Tlaltenango, zacatecas before 1930? Also Land ownership information?

Let me know. I really would appreciate your help.

Thanks!

Pauline Maven200

the record had important info but left me with some questions. gregorio's aprents were already dead before 81803, so he had his uncle(named diego)'s permission to marry agipita marquez. i wonder his uncle is the same diego flores who was married to gertrudis de la torre, and then when after his first wife died, he married phelipa enriquez.

Chris,

You can usually find numerous inquisition documents on PARES, I had an aunt by the name of María Méndez de Torres who was accused of witchcraft in 1672 in Zamora, Michoacán. Her inquisition documents that mention her brother as a witness and her parents and grandparents and great grandparents. She was declared "limpa de toda mala raza, judío, árabe, etc y es conocido que es de bueno liñaje y de buenos padres nobles y distinguidos entre el pueblo de Çamora. It was interesting to note that someone would actually accuse her of this, since it was well known the position they had in the cabildo and amongst society as one of the principal families of Zamora in the XVI century in the Obispado de Michoacán. One of her great grand nephews would later become the 1st or 2nd governor of Michoacán in the recent-declared republic in 1823, Telésforo Méndez de Torres.

I hope PARES will prove to be a resourceful tool for, there exist so many archives that are vital for our research, learn how to access them and study all you can, you´ll be surprised what you´ll find!

Daniel Méndez de Torres Camino

David Serna

What is the record information. the date ? a copy of the link ? what image number ?

I have been recording image numbers on all my entries for the past year when I started my genealogy research. I have found it extremely useful whenever I needed to go back to locate and review a record. Downloading and or printing all these records just seems like an arduous task. There have been many times that I have found a record that was not in correct chronological order. Sometimes the parish records alternate dates between the main church and an auxiliary location. And of course sometimes the date recorded is inaccurate (for example Jan 2013 is recorded as Jan 2012).
Well in fact the Jalisco parish records I research were updated on Feb 25. To my surprise I noticed that my entries for marriages for Juchitlan 1860-1878 records no longer point to the correct image! Upon further inspection I discovered that they added about 50-80 images to this particular collection, which makes absolutely no sense since the new images added were for marriages from 1922. I do not yet know if any other collection records now have new image numbers. Now I am torn between updating the image numbers or just deleting them altogether. Either way, it will be a lot of work since I have almost 3,000 people in my tree. How frustrating!
Juan J

David

I would not go so far as to say this is a bad idea, but you need to know the issues with such a citation.

The FHL is simply a repository of a copy of these records. The film number, image number are simply from their system of cataloging and presenting the record. The url of the source is simply the current electronic repository, which (1) may change as systems are updated or (2) could simply go away if the system becomes unfunded or unsupported (for the FHL this is highly unlikely).

I think the proper citation for the record (for church or civil records) should be:
author (Catholic Church or Civil Authorities)
Parish (for church only) and location
record type (baptisms, marriages, etc)
volume number or year(s) covered
page or folio number (if used)
record number if used

Along with this information, you should note the repository (FHL), their film and image number, as well as the date you extracted the information.

Family Search does provide some guidance on citing records; here are a couple of examples. Personally, I think their citations are incomplete: if you were look at the 1930 census for the Jose Lara record from a different source, how would you find this record?

From the 1930 Mexico National Census

"México, censo nacional, 1930," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M2H9-LC7 : accessed 02 Mar 2013), José Lara in entry for Luz Lara, 1930.

From the indexed (and image linked) church records

"México, Distrito Federal, registros parroquiales y diocesanos, 1514-1970," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F32V-2DK : accessed 02 Mar 2013), Alonso García and Matilde Pontones, 1924.

I think that the main thing to keep in mind is that the FHL is simply a repository of a copy of these records, and not the author.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

se necesita la liga de el registro de defunción para saber de quién se trata saludos