Los Paisanos de Chihuahua y Coahuila

Is there an English language website for those of us interested in the genealogy of Northern Mexico?
I checked out Genealogica de Norte Mexico, but it is exclusively in Spanish.

My research takes me from Aguascalientes up into Cuatrocienegas/Monclova(colonial capital of Nuevo Santander)/Rio Nuevo/La Madrid/Nadadores in Coahuila de Zaragoza.

As well as to Hidalgo del Parral (San Jose del Parral in the colonial era, the colonial capital of that state) and Santa Barbara, Chihuahua.

For those of you interested in Northern Mexico, or Tortilla de Harina country as we fondly call it, I just read a wonderful book:

LOS PAISANOS.

About the early settledment of Nueva Biscaya/Chihuahua/Durango/Sonora/Sinaloa, Nuevo Leon, New Mexico, what became Arizona,Texas and the Calfironias.

I had no idea Tlaxcallans settled in Coahuila in the post conqust era with royal approval and support.

Also, that there were black slaves in Parral. Chihuahua is so white today, its hard to believe that substantial African blood was absorbed into the mainstream population.

FHC Closures

Those of you facing an imminent closure of your local Family HIstory Center might consider petitioning Salt Lake City for an extension.

I don't remember who said they live on an island, but you could address that issue in a letter to Salt Lake.
Make them aware of the hardship it would be for you if they closed your FHC with such short notice, how your particular FHC is serving a vital sevice to the Hispanic community, and the community overall.

You might get an extra month, maybe 90 days.

Great Podcast: Muslim Reign in Spain

I'm trying to get permission from "Here On Earth" to let the Nuestra
Familia Unida podcast link to this presentation. . .very very interesting:

http://wpr.org/HereOnEarth/archive_050501j.cfm

Medieval Spain's Golden Age of Enlightenment
May 1, 2005 Sunday 2PM CT ( listen)
Between 711 and 1492, Christians, Jews, and Muslims lived side by side
in medieval Spain and forged a golden age for each faith, making Spain
the continent's commercial and cultural center while Europeans elsewhere
were mired in the Dark Age. This hour on Here on Earth, Jean Feraca and
her guest talk about the wisdom, hope, and lessons that the medieval
Spain offers to our modern age troubled by religious strife and division.

Guest

* Chris Lowney, author of "A Vanished World: Medieval Spain's Golden
Age of Enlightenment"

Related Links

* Chris Lowney
* Book: A Vanished World: Medieval Spain's Golden Age of Enlightenment

Soundbites and Music Used in the Program

* Strunz & Farah - "Laleh" - From the album Stringweave - Selva Records
* Yair Dalal & The ALOL Ensemble - "Adon Haslichot" - From the album
Silan - Amiata Records
* Yair Dalal & The ALOL Ensemble - "Acco Malca" - From the album
Silan - Amiata Records
* Strunz & Farah - "Shamsa" - From the album Stringweave - Selva Records

Diego Romo De Vivar/Rincon De Romos, Aguascalientes.

I was quite surprised to find that a Google search could turn up so much information on an ancestor.

Just for the hell of it I entered DIEGO ROMO DE VIVAR. I knew he was born in Spain in 1608, married Maria Rnagel who was also born somewhere in Spain in 1612, and that they started a large family in Aguascalientes, New Spain.

The Google search revealed that he created the town of Rincon de Romos in 1658 when he bought a hacienda owned by Pedro Rincon de Ortega that had long been named “Chora.” I thought Rincon de Romos meant the Corner of the Romos, but it actually is a combination of the former owner’s surname, Rincon, with that of the purchaser, Romo.

Rincon de Romos is 41 kilometers north of the City of Aguascalientes, in the state of Aguascalientes.
Rincon de Romos is a handsome town, from the pictures I’ve seen online it looks like a little chunk of Spain.

Has anyone been there? I will have to visit. I’ll bet there’s even a portrait of my ancestor in city hall.

I haven't been able to find anything before Diego Romo de Vivar and Maria Rangel, no parents, city or province of birth. There is a record of their crossing to the New World together.

Am I missing a source for their lineage in Spain?

Hotels in SLC

I found this article today regarding the hotel situation in SLC. Note in
paragraph 4 that they mention the Plaza Hotel which is now owned by the LDS
Church. It was previously known as the "Best Western Plaza at Temple
Square" and is right next door to the library.

Josie

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"Genealogists traveling to the Family History Library in Salt Lake City will
now have one less hotel to choose from. The lowest-priced hotel in the area,
the Travelodge Salt Lake City Temple Square, apparently will close.

An article in a recent issue of the Salt Lake Tribune describes recent
statements by LDS Church Presiding Bishop H. David Burton concerning the
Church's efforts at changing the area around the Church's headquarters.

The article states that "the church may add more student housing at a motel
it owns west of its Conference Center." This apparently is a reference to
the Travelodge Salt Lake City Temple Square at 144 West North Temple St.
That hotel has been well-known amongst genealogists as being the
lowest-priced hotel in the area, although readers of this newsletter gave it
a "thumbs down" in a recent survey. See my article on "Where to Stay in Salt
Lake City" at

http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2005/10/where_to_stay_i…

An announcement some months ago stated that the LDS Business College will
relocate to the church-owned Triad Center in September with up to 1,500
students. (See

http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2006/01/changes_in_the_…
for details.) Female students will be housed in one-third of the church's
Plaza Hotel at Temple Square, 122 W. South Temple. That location is next
door to the Family History Library and is very popular with out-of-town
genealogists. Although one-third of the hotel is being converted to student
housing, the rest of the rooms will remain a hotel.

Bishop H. David Burton also stated that the church remains committed to
building condos or apartments in the area.

You can read the entire article at

http://www.sltrib.com/search/ci_3701021 "

NR Transition

I'm talking with Arturo and at the end of May I am going to delete the
members that never made the transition over to the new group. Right now
that number seems to be right in the area of 33 people who were on the
Yahoo group. Mostly these are people that never or seldom participated.

It's a while before the end of May and here is what I plan to do:

1) email each of these people privately and let them know I'm going to
remove their information from the new site

2) send out one message on the Yahoo Group letting folks know that I'm
going to remove those 33 people from the Nuestros Ranchos Logs.

Now I'm not going to be unsubscribing them as they have previously
indicated that they were interested and many have submitted their
genealogies to the Yahoo group. But I am going to put the weight of
participation on their shoulders. When and if they are ever ready to
make the transition over to the new site they will need to contact one
of the Moderators or just go in and create a new account. As it's set up
now all they needed to do was request a password. It won't be difficult
to get them reinstated, but the responsibility will be theirs to pursue.

joseph

Rincon de Romos, Aguascalientes

Alicia,

I too have recently traced some of my husband's ancestors (some Esparzas too) to Rincon de Romos:

Maria Francisca Reyes Roman, baptized 06 APR 1782, San Jose de Gracia, Rincon de Romos
Maria Maxima Duron Reyes, baptized 1792 Puerto Del Marquez, Aguascalientes
Maria Olaya Duron Reyes, baptized 1787 Pabellon, Rincon de Romos
Maria Vicenta Duron Reyes, baptized 13 APR 1785 San Jose De Gracia, Rincon de Romos
Petra Paula Reyes Roman, baptized 1784, San Jose de Gracia, Rincon de Romos
Maria Josepha Duron Reyes, baptized 04 MAY 1775, San Jose de Gracia, Rincon de Romos
Felis Antonio Duron Esparsa, baptized 27 FEB 1748, El Sagrario, Aguascalientes
Joseph Jasinto Duron Esparsa, baptized 25 SEP 1746, El Sagrario, Aguascalientes
Augustina Duron Abalos, baptized 25 NOV 1715, El Sagrario, Aguascalientes
Patricio Martin/Maria Maxima Duron Reyes, married 12 FEB 1814, Pabellon, Rincon de Romos
Felis Duron/Maria Josepha Reyes Roman, married 17 JAN 1773, San Jose de Gracia, Rincon de Romos
Franco. Duron/Maria Secilia Esparza, married 04 OCT 1745, El Sagrario, Aguascalientes

I had ordered the films for Aguascalientes (for $5.95 each) and was waiting for them when they told me that my FHC here in town would be closing up at the end of this month, and orders cancelled and films being held on loan will have to be sent back. I checked out another FHC in a nearby town which will charge me $6.00 each and told me they don't have room to keep films longer than four weeks. I too was anxious to start my research in Aguascalientes, but I will have to wait. There is also now the matter of the cost of gas to drive out of town.

I think I have seen that Aguascalientes website that Ernie Alderete (NathanJones) was talking about. There is also another that has pictures of the Colonial buildings including Pabellon

See: http://www.aguascalientes.gob.mx/Estado/Rincon.aspx

http://www.aguascalientes.gob.mx/idiomas/ingles/history/exhaciendas/hac…

When I went with my parents to Mexico in the early 1960s, I remember passing through Aquascalientes on the way to Jerez, and I remember thinking it was a pretty town with several colonial buildings.

Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA ---

Tlaltenango History Books

There are a number of books written by a local historian in Tlaltanango,
Zacatecas by the name of Bernardo Carlos Casas:

Tlaltenango : una ciudad amurallada (1986)

Semblanza historica de la parroquia de Tlaltenango : 1544-1991 (1991)

Historia de Colotlán (1991)

Has anyone ever seen or read these books? Does anyone know of any other
microhistories of the towns in the “three-fingers” region of Jalisco or
of Southern Zacatecas?

Escribanos de Jerez y Tlaltenango

I just found this going through the Archivo General de la Nacion index. There was a discussion last week about finding out who were the escribanos and how they worked. I am pretty sure that each escribano was given a jurisdiccion where he was responsible, so this confirms that in the early 1700s there was an escribano assigned to Jerez y el Valle de Tlaltenango, which at that time, I believe was considered a single municipal entity, split in half by Colotlan which was under a military government under the direct jurisdiccion of the Viceroy of New Spain, i.e. not Nueva Galicia:

The escribano until 1741 was Manuel Antonio Suarez and after 1741 was Nicolas Pardo y Figueroa. Neither of these names appears in the Archivo Historico de Jalisco's list of escribanos.

Clave de Registro 107653
No. Grupo 45
Grupo Documental Escribanos
Fecha ABRIL 18 - NOVIEMBRE 16 DE 1741
Volumen 12
Expediente 13
Fojas 301-312v
Descripción RENUNCIA. AUTOS HECHOS SOBRE LA RENUNCIA DE DON MANUEL ANTONIO SUAREZ, AL OFICIO DE ESCRIBANO PUBLICO Y DE CABILDO DE LA VILLA DE JEREZ Y VALLE DE TLALTENANGO EN LA PROVINCIA DE LA NUEVA GALICIA, A FAVOR DE DON NICOLAS PARDO Y FIGUEROA, EL CUAL SE LE REMATA EN 500 PESOS, CUYA TERCIA PARTE PAGARA A LA REAL CAJA. VILLA DE JEREZ (Y) VALLE DE TLALTENANGO.

hi...again!

I was absent for the last month due to personal issues, but after a while i'back!

Last week I'd gone to the Family History Center here in Montpellier but unfortunately it isn't ready yet, they are trying to install all the programs and told me to come back in two or three more months, this is so sad because now I have time and I cannot search anything :(

In the other hand I have a question, the woman there told me that I have to request the film and it would take 1 month or so in arrive to France, then I have 3 months for consulting it, of course only the days they can (3 days a week), perhaps I got something wrong, but I tought that I'd have the film here for longer...how does it work?

Thank you and greetings from France!!

Monica

Family History Archive

I was confused. I thought that Family History Archive search engine was
the Digitizing projects first efforts. The reply from that project below
seems to set the record straight:

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: Family History Archive/NFU Podcast
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 08:46:39 -0600
From: Cali O'Connell
To: Joseph Puentes

Joseph:

There are two separate projects. The Family History Archive (hosted
through the Lee Library website) is an archive of digitized family
histories. We are cooperating with the Family History Library in Salt
Lake City and most of the books you see there are actually from their
collection. But the scope of this project is intended to include only
family histories.

It sounds like the project you are talking about is the one sponsored by
the Family History Library in Salt Lake City which will include
digitizing of lots of microfilm, etc. You can probably find more
details on www.lds.org.

Sorry for the confusion!

Cali O'Connell

Library Donor Relations

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From: Joseph Puentes [mailto:makas@nc.rr.com]
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 2:01 PM
To: Cali O'Connell
Subject: Family History Archive/NFU Podcast

I have a question about the Family History Archive. Is this the search
engine for the "early" results of your Mammoth Digitizing effort for the
Family History Library? I understood that it will take 6 years to
complete, excluding new material that will come in during that time. Am
I correct or is this a totally different project?

I am hoping that you will be including much more material on Mexico
soon. I was hoping for the archives to hold material on the church
records for the states of Jalisco, Zacatecas, Aguascalientes, and
Chihuahua. Is there any idea at all when they will start digitizing the
Mexico Church films?

thanks,

Joseph Puentes
makas@nc.rr.com
http://nuestrosranchos.org
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com

ps: would you be interested in being interviewed on this topic for my
podcast on Latin American History and Genealogy?
(http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com)

Cultural websites

Here are some sites of possible general interest:
http://www.latino.si.edu
(not all information is current)
http://www.folkways.si.edu/projects_initiatives/latino_english/home.html
http://www.folklife.si.edu/index.html
(of interest if you plan to be in Washington, DC June 30-July4, and July 7-11; updated details to be posted in May)
www.mfacmchicago.org (read about exhibit of African presence in Mexico from Yango to present)

Have a good week.
Natalie in VA

WildCards ???

I'm trying to get the hang of Using WildCards in doing searches on
www.familysearch.org

I'm very thankful to Victor Villarreal for the great tutorial on
WildCards to be found in the "Files" under "Reference Material" under
"Searching the IGI"

. . .but there is one thing I'm just not getting, which probably means
I'm missing some main point in this WildCard search scenario.

when I do a parent search for my GGG grandparents I put in the father's
first name: "Cipriano" and then his last name "Puente" then under the
mother I put in only the first name "Eduarda" and I get these all these
relatives:

You searched for:
Father: Cipriano Puente, Mother: Eduarda

1. JOSE MARIA PUENTE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 03 NOV 1847 Santa Maria De Los Angeles, Jalisco,
Mexico
2. GENARA DE LA TRINIDAD PUENTE TORRES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 20 JUL 1817 Santa Maria De Los Angeles,
Jalisco, Mexico
3. MARIA DEL REFUGIA PUENTE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Marriage: 26 FEB 1835 Santa Maria De Los Angeles,
Jalisco, Mexico
4. CECILIO PUENTE - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 17 MAY 1843 Santa Maria De Los Angeles, Jalisco,
Mexico

Okay now I decided to substitute a WildCard for the father's first name
"Cipriano" and I entered this WildCard % instead. I was expecting to
get the above results AND some others or at the very least just the
above results repeated, but instead i got:

You searched for:
Father: % Puente, Mother: Eduarda
International Genealogical Index / Mexico (No Matches)

I would like to understand what I'm missing. Shouldn't this WildCard
search have returned at least the same results as above with maybe a
"few" more additions?

thanks,

joseph

Digitized LDS Films Online

I was told this morning by a Mormon Elder that the digitizing of the films in the Salt Lake City Repository is proceeding well. A process begun two years ago.

He told me that the first digitized films will be online shortly, and that they will be closing many Family History Centers, consolidating them since everything will be online soon. The remaining consolidated FHC's will be mostly for people without Internet access.

I was informed that the second Beta testing of the new software to view the films is nearing a successful conclusion.

I was told volunteers are needed who read Spanish to help index the digitized films. If you volunteer you can work from your home.

He said it took twenty years to index the 1880 census, so the indexing of the huge LDS film collection will take longer than the actual digital filiming.

I could not pin him down on how soon is soon, but I would not be surprised to see original documents online later this year.

This will of course, be an incredible leap forward for our purposes, and genealogy in general.

WorldCat ???

Who in CA has access to WorldCat? Please look up this ISBN number
(below) and send me the list of California Libraries that carry the
book. My access to WorldCat for some reason only gives a partial list of
the libraries that carry books and then it only gives the locations here
in NC and moves out. Most times when a book is located in several
hundred libraries i only get East Coast results.

if so can you do a search of this ISBN: 0292706286 for this book:

Moctezuma's Children-Aztec Royalty Under Spanish Rule, 1520-1700.
Author Donald E. Chipman ISBN 0-292-70628-6
Donald E. Chipman is Professor Emeritus of History at the University of
North texas in Denton.

I'm interested in what CA libraries carry it

joseph

Migrants Reshape Villages with ideas del Norte

This happens to be my native town in Zacatecas and yes you too can belong to one of these clubs. Great place to get hometown stories, meet family and yes maybe even make a contribution.

Alicia Avelar de Carrillo
San Jose, Ca

Migrants Reshape Villages With Ideas del Norte
--------------------

By Sam Enriquez
Times Staff Writer

April 16 2006

Workers in the United States helped pay for the grand boulevard leading
into town, a four-lane thoroughfare whose center divider is planted
with palm trees and roses. A large sign declares in Spanish: Migrants,
this is your home.

The complete article can be viewed at:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/remit/la-fg-straddle16apr…

Visit latimes.com at http://www.latimes.com

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/remit/la-fg-straddle16apr…

Book Search: Sotelo

I'm trying to find out who knows anything about this book. Please
contact me directly: makas@nc.rr.com

"Sotelo, Fundador del Apellido en Nueva España"

This book is supposed to be used as a source by Salvador Cabral Valdez.
I'm wondering if anyone on the list is in contact with him? If so I
would like to find the name of the author and double check on the
correctness of the title. It seems I can't find it anywhere on WorldCat
or Amazon.com and that is very unusual.

joseph

[Fwd: FW: Pilgrimage and Meeting of Los Bexarenos]

>From: "larry kirkpatrick"
>To: elindio2@hotmail.com
>Subject: FW: Pilgrimage
>Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:12:37 -0500
>
>Notice of Regular Meeting of Los Bexarenos
>
>The next meeting of Los Bexarenos Genealogical Society will be on Saturday,
>May 6, 2006 at the Central Library at 600 Soledad in San Antonio. The
>meeting will begin at 9:30am in the first floor auditorium. Refreshments
>will be served. Admission is free and everyone is invited.
>
> The speaker will be Dr. Alonso M. Perales, an educational
>support
> and research consultant. He spoke to the group about a
>year
> and half ago on a genealogical family. His subject will
>be on
> Native Americans of South Texas. Dr. Perales will
>present his
> paper on The Indigenous Cultures of South Texas and
>Northern
> Mexico (A Review of the Literature). The paper was
>delivered
> before the Alliance for the Advancement of Indigenous
>Cultures
> of Corpus Christi.
>
> A Fulbright Scholar in Applied Linguistics, Dr. Perales
>was
> assigned to the Universidad Central in Quito, Ecuador and
>to
> Universidad de Guayaquil, Ecuador.
>
>******************************************************************
>If you would rather not receive these notices from Los Bexarenos, please
>send a message to elindio2@hotmail.com
>******************************************************************
>
>
>
>>From: "robert and sylvia garcia"
>>To: "'Larry & Yolanda Kirkpatrick'"
>>Subject: Pilgrimage
>>Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2006 15:47:36 -0500
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Subject: Laying of Wreath in front of Alamo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Larry,
>>
>>
>>
>>At the April 1 monthly meeting of the Los Bexarenos Genealogy Society,
>>the
>>President of the Society encouraged the membership to participate in the
>>annual pilgrimage to the Alamo scheduled for April 24, 2006. He stated
>>that
>>we should make "a statement" by our participation in this event.
>>
>>
>>
>>Please forward the attachment to our membership as a reminder of the date
>>and time of the pilgrimage.
>>
>>
>>
>>Let's all attend...we need to participate and be a part of this symbolic
>>ceremony.
>>
>>
>>
>

Nucmc: Manuscript Search Lib Congress

http://www.loc.gov/coll/nucmc/

Have a look at this search engine for one of a kind Manuscripts. Also
look at a search database called Archives USA.

Just as an example i did the OCLC simple search and got the following
entrie amoug many many for the words: "Zacatecas" and "Jalisco."

don't know where this one is but looks very very interesting:

Author: Magallanes, José Yrineo.
Title: Family papers, 1776-1901.
Description: 57 folders.
Notes: Papers of José Yrineo Magallanes and his sons,
Mariano, Francisco and Juan, relating to the sale,
inheritance, or transfer of lands and estates mainly in
Tlaltenango and Jérez, province of Zacatecas, Mexico.
In Spanish.
Subjects: Land tenure -- Mexico -- Zacutecas (Province)
Control No.: ocm25865776

and

Author: Sánchez, Prisciliano, 1783-1826.
Title: Prisciliano Sánchez collection, 1822-1851 (bulk
1825-1827).
Description: 330 leaves.
Found In: Genaro García Collection.
Notes: Forms part of: Genaro García Collection.
Lawyer, businessman, political leader, legislator
and governor. Born 1783 in Ahuacatlán, Nueva Galicia
(present state of Nayarit), died 1826 in Guadalajara,
Jalisco, Mexico. Prisciliano Sánchez received a law degree
in 1810. As a businessman in Compostela, he gained popularity
as a local political leader. In 1822 he was elected deputy to
the first national congress, in 1823 to the first constituent
congress, and in 1824 to the first legislature of the state
of Jalisco. In 1825 Sánchez became the first constitutional
governor of Jalisco. In 1826, while still governor, Sánchez
died of an illness resulting from an injury to his hand.
Printed material, correspondence, financial and
legal documents, reports, notes, and assorted materials
relating to Prisciliano Sánchez' political career, his
death, and his last will and testament. García manuscripts
G422 and G422-1 through G422-6 consist of materials
concerning Sánchez' career in government, including
broadsides, nine booklets and pamphlets, proclamations, notes
about legislative sessions and other matters, a letter book,
and a communication to the provincial military concerning
law, politics, and government in the Mexican state of Jalisco
from 1822 to 1826. G422-7 contains reports on an Indian
rebellion in 1825. G426 comprises Sanchez' will, an inventory
of his belongings, financial documents pertaining to the
disposal of his possessions and payment of expenses, decrees
relating to the mourning of his death, funeral prayers and
eulogies, official letters of condolence, and other official
and legal documents pertaining to his death and will.
García, Genaro, Heirs of; purchase; 1921.
Castañeda, Carlos E. and Jack Autrey Dabbs,
eds., Guide to the Latin American manuscripts in the
University of Texas Library. Cambridge, Mass., Harvard
University Press, 1939.
Also available on microfilm, Benson Latin
American Collection.
Prisciliano Sánchez Collection, 1822-1851,
Benson Latin American Collection, General Libraries,
University of Texas at Austin.
Subjects: Sánchez, Prisciliano, 1783-1826 -- Archives.
Jalisco (Mexico : State) -- History --
1821-1861.
Jalisco (Mexico : State) -- Politics and
government -- 1821-1861.
Other authors: García, Genaro, 1867-1920, collector.
Control No.: ocm31795819

and

Good Cause Book Sale: Microfilming Project

here is a message from Susanna that she wanted me to approve first. I
wholeheartedly support this kind of fund raising:

Primo:

I just talked on the phone with Samuel Sanchez Garcia. He told me that his
group (Sociedad Genealogica del Norte de Mexico) is trying to collect funds
for a microfilming project for the North of Mexico. For that reason, they
reached an agreement with PORRUA EDITORES to sell previously out-of-print
books, or limited edition history books on their website. The books appear
in their website:
http://www.genealogia.org.mx/home/default.asp

All of them are very interesting for a genealogist. They are history
books for all Mexico. The prices are 20 dollars each book. They are
selling several items on their website, but he told me that if you really
want to help to buy books because a 100% of the money collected from the
sale of these history books goes to the microfilming project. They will
let us know when their goal has been met. Some of the books are for
example:

1. Historia de las divisiones territoriales de Mexico
2. Historia de los Indios de la Nueva Espana
3. Historia Antigua de Mexico

Their website again is:
http://www.genealogia.org.mx/home/default.asp

He told me that they were having some technical problems with some of the
links but by tomorrow everyone can buy books. You can look at the catalog
today.

I thought you were the ideal person to formally invite all the members of
our group to look at their website. If these books are of interest then a
double benefit of historical information and making more information
available in the future is served.

Thank-you

Tu prima Susana Leniski

New boyon the block. Nuevo chavo en este sitio.

I wanted to say hello to all my fellow geneaologists on this fine website.

My name is Ernie Alderete and I live in Monterey Park in suburban Los Angeles, California.

My GEDCOM will be uploaded shortly. I am working to corroborate it as far as possible, and to expand my knowledge of my ancestry and ancestors.

I have already learned many new things in just half an hour on this site. That I have Basque ancestry, for instance, through my ancestor Lope Ruiz de Esparza in Aguascalientes, Mexico and his family in Pamplona, Navarra.

I am equally proud of my Spanish and Mexica heritage.

My late father always told me we were descended from Emperor Moctezuma himself. I remember laughing at my father. I thought it was a fairytale. I wish he was alive today so I could apologize to him and share with him the incredible discoveries I've made over the last year, or two.

When my genealogical backtracking lead me to PETRONILA MOCTEZUMA who was born in 1550 in Aguascalientes I just about fell out of my chair. My father was right!

I have started a Moctezuma DNA Project to try and verify all of our Montezuma background genetically, as well as by the paper trail.

I also have an Alderete DNA Project with similar goals. To corroborate and expand my research in that field.

I am the administartor of the Alderete and Moctezuma surname lists on RootsWeb.

I look forward to hearing from many of you, and meeting someday.

I arrive in Chihuahua, Chihuahua in October to work on my family tree and collect DNA samples as well as visit family and friends.

I hope to visit Aguascalientes in person sometime after that.

Hablo castellano, pero mi primera lengua es ingles.

http://www.familytreedna.com/public/moctezuma

http://www.familytreedna.com/(hcojjivgekjvu155hef2gy55)/public/alderete

Las Primeras mujeres que pasaron a Nueva España

I came across this link that lists the first Spanish women to come to Mexico (Nueva España) during the first quarter of the XVI century. It was written by Juan Francisco Maura, Associate Professor in Spanish at the University of Vermont.

http://parnaseo.uv.es/Editorial/Maura/ConclusionYapendices.pdf

I wasn't able to add it to the links section.

Maria