Bautismos de Hijos Legitimos
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Great Stories Elvira. . .i didn't know about the "No Pago" records but
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Great Stories Elvira. . .i didn't know about the "No Pago" records but
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Elvira, Thanks so much for sharing your interesting experiences. Victor --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "elviraz"wrote: > > > Arturo, Emilie, > > See my comments below. > > Elvira > >
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Arturo, Emilie, See my comments below.
Elvira ----- Original Message Follows ----- From: "Arturo Ramos" arturo.ramos2@...> To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ranchos] Re: Bautismos de Hijos Legitimos Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 06:10:58 -0000 > You know that's right Elvira. I talk to the Nordic
people > at my family history center and they cannot believe that > there are even records for Mexico in the 1700s let alone > records that list maternal and paternal names up to the > grandparents... along with race/caste, etc. As wrong as > the motives may have been for maintaining all of this > information... knowledge=control and the maintainance of > information like this was obviously meant to categorize > and keep people in their place. Nevertheless this > information gives us a beautiful window into the lives > of our ancestors. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Thanks Emilie, Divisions, Estados, Cabezeras, etc.
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This map really helps me visualize the location of the earliest provinces settled by the Conquistadores. Now I know where Nueva Galicia, Nueva Vizcaya, Nueva Leon, Nueva Santander, Nuevo Mexico, etc. were. This map also shows Texas, Louisiana, and Florida and the Philipines as Spanish territories. Emilie Garcia Port Orchard, WA ---
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In the above link to History of Mexico - Indigenous Jalisco, this article by John P. Schmal states that the colonial province of Nueva Galicia included, besides Jalisco, only present-day Zacatecas, Aguascalientes, Nayarit and the northwest corner San Luis Potosi, and that the Spaniards and some Indian allies began settlement there in the early 16th century. The article also describes which Indian tribes settled in various towns. This article sounds familiar. Maybe someone has posted a link to it before? Emilie Garcia Port Orchard, WA ---
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Yes, Arturo,
It is so frustrating to know that Anglos here don't have a clue about our
history. They are amazed when I request records for 1640, or mention that I just downloaded a census for 1650, for example. They say "They have records in Mexico that go back that far?--Who wrote them?" (they have no clue as to how literate and educated the priests and notaries public were). I tell them that I can trace some ancestors to 1543 (in Panuco, Zacatecas). I just can't trace all the lines back that far and there are such huge gaps sometimes due to the upheavals caused in the founding of a nation and opening up of frontiers and the passage of time. I tell them that Jerez where my father was born is on the National Register of Historical Places in Mexico as a well-preserved Spanish Colonial city founded in the early 1500s. They think their 1620 settlements in Massachusetts are the oldest in the Americas. I don't even think they realize how far back our pre-Colombian |
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Muchisimas gracias, Jose,
Yes, someone else sent me that film number that I didn't know about because
I had always searched for Jerez, not knowing that Jerez is now called Ciudad Garcia. Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA ---
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I've moved the Census records for Jalisco and Zacatecas from the
Ranchos2 files area to the Ranchos1 links area.
have a look: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/links/Dr_Platt_sCensusRefe_001131267898/ joseph ps: I need to add the Aguascalientes pages for this also.
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