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muchisimas gracias José Román. Esa noche estuve muy cansado y ya me
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Genealogia de Leticia Leon Morales
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I DID UPLOAD THE FILE OF MY GENEALOGY DIRECT LINE, TO RANCHOS 2 HOPE DID NO MISTAKES, THANK YOU.
Bautismos de Hijos Legitimos
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You know that's right Elvira. I talk to the Nordic people at my family history center and they cannot believe that there are even records for Mexico in the 1700s let alone records that list maternal and paternal names up to the grandparents... along with race/caste, etc. As wrong as the motives may have been for maintaining all of this information... knowledge=control and the maintainance of information like this was obviously meant to categorize and keep people in their place. Nevertheless this information gives us a beautiful window into the lives of our ancestors. Emilie: Neither my father nor I have been able to locate my grandfather's birth certificate... either at the civil registry in the town where he was born nor in Gudadalajara. I think there were a lot of records lost just before the revolution. The government in Mexico was very weak and then a lot of records were destroyed. We are lucky we have been able to find his baptismal records. I have a similar
Cansado.
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Hi Joseph (tocayo):
Your work as "moderator" I think is very busy, your contribution at this e-Mail list is very important for me, I know that you is involved in other web groups and projects about this same matter (Genealogy or Family History). Don't worry.
I can see various alternatives to leave you have your live in peace, without a lot of labor with us:
1) You can divide the work of moderator to another moderators or "sub-moderators" in order to distribute that work, "divide y vencerás", say a "dicho muy común". The others moderators can have their assignations in relation to an specific matter or geographical area that is of their interest. If a question is included in the list and is in the responsibility of a "sub-moderator", you could leave him answer that question.
2) You can put the "Nuestros Ranchos" available to all people that like subscribe to the group, but is possible, the contributors with their information to the group could not receive noting of that
Bautismos de Hijos Legitimos vs. Hijos Naturales de Jerez, Zac.
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Hi Emilie:
Among the microfilms listed in the FHLC from Jerez, Zac. there are some entitled "bautismos de Hijos Naturales", but I don't saw any of the 1903 year. ¿Do you has had this microfilms? Another option is "Registro Civil" In these last records, there is 1903 year:
| Nacimientos 1903-1904 | FHL INTL Film 1081921 |
I think that is good idea see this microfilm, maybe, that records missing are that which repository was the parish, but for the information above, the records which repository is "Registro Civil" are not missing. The microfilm is found at "Ciudad García, Zac." as this is (Use for) Mexico, Zacatecas, Jerez de García Salinas
I hope this little contribution will be useful to you.
Success!
JRGL.
Emilie Garcia wrote:
Yesterday I was at the local FHC again poring over the microfilm for baptisms from Jerez around the time my father Guadalupe Olague was born (January 28, 1903). I have never been able to locate my father's birth record in it, even though I
Bautismos de Hijos Legitimos
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Angie,
Thanks for the info -- I guess I never found this before since the
title of the Civil Registrar of Jerez is under Ciudad Garcia, and not Jerez like the registros parroquiales. There is another series of Registro Civil for Jerez de Garcia Salinas that start with film 2177857 that lists Nacimientos only for 1871-1874, 1916, 1921-1927, then the rest is matrimonios and nacimientos and defunciones starting in 1906 for Ermita de los Correa, Monte de los Garcia, Palmas Altas, and Cienegillas de Fernandez. In both cases, the main author of each series of Civil Registrar films is
"Registro Civil". I wonder why there are two series and why one is titled Jerez de Garcia Salinas (the I had), and one is titled "Ciiudad Garcia" (the one you found). The series you found is so compete, but the one I had is not. I sure wish I could go down to the Zacatecas, the capital, and see
what they have, if they even let people look at what they have. Emilie Garcia
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CALAVERA POEMS
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forgive me. . .I meant to reply the same day but decided to wait and
then promptly forgot.
wow! you make me feel like a god. . .how many can say they've had poety
written for them. I'm sure this will make my wife jealous, I can wait to
tell her!
Thank you Yolanda, what a nice thought and yes I do believe I'm getting
help from my primos, tios, tias, etc.
muchisimas, joseph Yolanda Medina-Perez wrote:
A tradition in Mexico is the writing of a CALAVERA for
friends,family, public personalities and politicians. Calaveras are
meant to be funny, they are not meant as eulogies, but are mild
teasing. There's usually some sort of rhyme, and they can be
several lines to several stanzas in length. They can also be poems
of sharp criticism especially towards Los Politicos or Governantes
from Mexico and U.S.
Here goes one for you Joseph, ojala y te guste. JOSEPHESTABA JOSEPH MUY DE MANANA
COMIENDO PAN Y TOMANDO SU ATOLE.
PLATICABA CON SU AMADA,
CON SU
Bautismos de Hijos Legitimos
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Victor,
Yes, you got it right. The state has always made a
second copy of the records. The originals (when the book closes) get sent to the state capital and the second copy is supposed to stay in the municipio it came from. The registro civil in Zacatecas City should
have the copy of the tome in question (let's hope that it survived la Toma de Zactecas). I had this problem with records from Durango. The documents were found in the registro civil in the city of Durango. Like someone said before ' thank God the Spanish
were compulsive record keepers". They taught the Mexicans well! Elvira
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Call for Poetry and Oral History
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I'm looking for more Poetry and Oral History for my
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com podcast. If anyone is interested please
reply to makas@...
joseph
Bautismos de Hijos Legitimos
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I'm not sure if it has always been the same but I understand that civil registry records are always made in duplicate; one for the local office and a copy for the State archives of the civil registry. So even if the local copy was burnt there's a chance that the State's copy survived. As I said, that is how it is done today but I'm not sure if the same rule applied back in 1903. The other question is where were the microfilms made, at the local office or at the state office? Victor --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia"wrote: > > Victor, I was just going over the civil registry records I have checked and I haven't found any trace of my father, aunt or grandmother, nor of a marriage record for my grandfather Francisco Olague and grandmother Gorgonia Garcia. I checked the civil registry for Guadalupe, a town not far from Jerez, where my aunt Soledad's (my father's only sibling) death certificate says she was born. Also, the priest didn't say the