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Bautismos de Hijos Legitimos

Victor, I was just going over the civil registry records I have checked and
I haven't found any trace of my father, aunt or grandmother, nor of a marriage
record for my grandfather Francisco Olague and grandmother Gorgonia
Garcia.  I checked the civil registry for Guadalupe, a town not far from
Jerez, where my aunt Soledad's (my father's only sibling) death certificate
says she was born.  Also, the priest didn't say the records were burned in
1903, but later when the Revolucion war came to Jerez.  It seems whoever
wanted to destroy records set fire to the church and the civil registry office
since the list of LDS films has gaps for 1903 in the bautismos of hijos
naturales and all other records in the civil registry.  Maybe someone there
that wanted to hide something took advantage and destroyed the
"evidence".  I know Hitler destroyed his home town in Austria to prevent
people finding proof he had Jewish blood, and a lady at the FHC says that some
politico in Montreal

Bautismos de Hijos Legitimos

Oh, thanks, Alicia,
 
Now I know that it must have been the Civil Registry office in Jerez that
generated that certified record I found on my father.  My father had only
one  sibling, a sister, Soledad Olague and I can't find anything on her
either, nor on their mother Gorgonia Garcia.  Gorgonia died in Jerez, but
my father, his sister and his father and his father's mother and other relatives
came to the US in 1913.  My grandfather, aunt and great-grandmother are
buried in Colorado, my father in San Jose.
 
I've been looking for birth records for them for years with no luck, and
have only found them for my grandfather and his parents.  Back to the salt
mines.
 
Emilie Garcia
 Port Orchard, WA ----
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 3:19
PM
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Bautismos de
Hijos Legitimos

Emilie,
 
I find myself in the same situation. I cannot find birth or

Bautismos de Hijos Legitimos

Emilie,

Don't despair.  Do what Angie suggests and check the Civil Registry
records.  What I find strange is that the dates don't quite check
because the Mexican Revolution started in 1910 not 1903.  Maybe it was
some other disaster or maybe they made a typo when they captured that
record.  I've seen microfilms whose contents don't exactly agree with
the index at the Library Catalog.  So maybe you can take a look at
those microfilms anyway just to be sure.  After all that, if you still
haven't found anything, then you can cry, but just a little!

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia" 
wrote:
>
> Oh, Angie, Victor,
> 
> I guess the priest my father talked to was correct.  The records for
1903 when my father was born were burned during the Revolucion.  The
films skip from 1902 to 1906.  I want to cry. 
> 
> Emilie
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Emilie Garciamailto:auntyemfaustus@h...> 
>   To: ranchos@yahoogroups.commailto:ranchos

Bautismos de Hijos Legitimos

Emilie,
 
I find myself in the same situation. I cannot find birth or christening records for my father in-law Antonio Carrillo Juaregui who was said to have been born around 1901 in Nochistlan or Tlachichila Zacatecas. The breakthrough came when I went to Salt Lake in March and found a birth record for one of his brothers Julian Carrillo born in 1904.
Subsequent to that I did find the marriage records for Antonio's parents Francisco Carrillo, Gomez and Mariana Jauregui, Olmos married Oct,1899 in Nochistlan Zac. so that opened up a window and it's logical that my father in-law would have been born in 1901 because he was said to be the eldest of 3 children. I still can't find the other sibling or don't know whatever happened to the sister or what her name was. My husband grew up not knowing any family on his father's side and believing that his father was orphaned. Come to find out he was not orphaned but abandoned by his parents or so they say because I have not found death records for

Nueva Galicia Planning Committee


Okay I've created a special Yahoo ID and Password and created a
YahooGroup for Nueva Galicia.


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NuevaGalicia/

My purpose is to try to encourage people to join the group and start
formulating a plan for the future. A plan that would include a research
area that encompasses all of what Nueva Galicia was Historically. After
you all join and come to some kind of agreement as to who will run this
group and who will be moderators to help run it, I will turn over the
Yahoo ID/Password for ownership. Tied to this ID/Password is the email
address: NuevaGalicia2@...


So please I would encourage you to join this group and let the planning
start. Later if you want you can completely change anything and
everything. Since its just a planning committee group I made it unlisted
and private to group members only (no open archives).


I'll be part of the committee but only in a supportive role. I like the
idea of opening up the research area. I just don't

Bautismos de Hijos Legitimos

Emilie,

Have you tried Civil Registration?  I don't know if I have the right 
city, but here is this list:

Nacimientos 1902 -  FHL INTL Film [ 1081920 ]
Nacimientos 1903-1904 -  FHL INTL Film [ 1081921 ]
Nacimientos 1905-1906 -  FHL INTL Film [ 1089629 ]

This was taken from:
http://www.familysearch.com/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/printing/titledetai
lsprint.asp?titleno=310581

Good Luck on your search,
Angie Godina

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia"  
wrote:
>
> Oh, Angie, Victor,
> 
> I guess the priest my father talked to was correct.  The records 
for 1903 when my father was born were burned during the Revolucion.  
The films skip from 1902 to 1906.  I want to cry. 
> 
> Emilie





Bautismos de Hijos Legitimos

Oh, Angie, Victor,
 
I guess the priest my father talked to was correct.  The records for
1903 when my father was born were burned during the Revolucion.  The films
skip from 1902 to 1906.  I want to cry.
 
Emilie
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 2:07
PM
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Bautismos de
Hijos Legitimos

Thaks, Angie ---- I guess I never looked at the whole list for Jerez and
only saw the Bautismos on the top.
 
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA --
----- Original Message -----
From: aajay1073
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 1:36
PM
Subject: [ranchos] Re: Bautismos de
Hijos Legitimos

Emilie,

Here is this list:
Bautismos de hijos
naturales 1867-1891 -  FHL INTL Film [ 439889 ]
Bautismos de hijos
naturales 1891-1902 -  FHL INTL Film [ 439890 ]
Bautismos de hijos
naturales 1906-1919 -  FHL

Bautismos de Hijos Legitimos

Thaks, Angie ---- I guess I never looked at the whole list for Jerez and
only saw the Bautismos on the top.
 
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA --
----- Original Message -----
From: aajay1073
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 1:36
PM
Subject: [ranchos] Re: Bautismos de Hijos
Legitimos

Emilie,

Here is this list:
Bautismos de hijos
naturales 1867-1891 -  FHL INTL Film [ 439889 ]
Bautismos de hijos
naturales 1891-1902 -  FHL INTL Film [ 439890 ]
Bautismos de hijos
naturales 1906-1919 -  FHL INTL Film [ 439891 ]
Bautismos de hijos
naturales 1953-1961 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 439892 ]

Taken from this
page:
http://www.familysearch.com/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/printing/titledetai
lsprint.asp?titleno=354158

Good
luck on your search,
Angie Godina


--- In
ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia"

wrote:
>
> Yesterday I was at the local FHC again poring over
the microfilm
for baptisms from Jerez around the time my

Bautismos de Hijos Legitimos

Thanks, Victor  -- As usual you came to the rescue.  I guess
before I didn't scroll down far enough when I was looking for films in Jerez, or
I just took the film numbers off the IGI.
 
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA  --
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 1:36
PM
Subject: [ranchos] Re: Bautismos de Hijos
Legitimos

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titlefilmnotes&columns=*%2C0%2C0&titleno=354158&disp=Registros+parroquiales++


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In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie
Garcia" auntyemfaustus@h...>
wrote:
>
>
Yesterday I was at the local FHC again poring over the microfilm
for
baptisms from Jerez around the time my father Guadalupe Olague
was
born (January 28, 1903).  I have never been able to locate my
father's
birth record in it, even though I have found his father in
Tepetongo
(Rancho Salitrillo) and others there back to the