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Bautismos de Hijos Legitimos

Emilie,

Here is this list:
Bautismos de hijos naturales 1867-1891 -  FHL INTL Film [ 439889 ]
Bautismos de hijos naturales 1891-1902 -  FHL INTL Film [ 439890 ]
Bautismos de hijos naturales 1906-1919 -  FHL INTL Film [ 439891 ]
Bautismos de hijos naturales 1953-1961 -  VAULT INTL Film [ 439892 ] 

Taken from this page:
http://www.familysearch.com/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/printing/titledetai
lsprint.asp?titleno=354158

Good luck on your search,
Angie Godina


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia"  
wrote:
>
> Yesterday I was at the local FHC again poring over the microfilm 
for baptisms from Jerez around the time my father Guadalupe Olague 
was born (January 28, 1903).  I have never been able to locate my 
father's birth record in it, even though I have found his father in 
Tepetongo (Rancho Salitrillo) and others there back to the early 
1700's. While I was loading the film yesterday, I noticed that the 
title of the book filmed was "Bautismos de Hijos

Bautismos de Hijos Legitimos

Yesterday I was at the local FHC again poring over the microfilm for
baptisms from Jerez around the time my father Guadalupe Olague was born (January
28, 1903).  I have never been able to locate my father's birth record in
it, even though I have found his father in Tepetongo (Rancho Salitrillo)
and others there back to the early 1700's. While I was loading the film
yesterday, I noticed that the title of the book filmed was "Bautismos de Hijos
Legitimos", and sure enough, I did not find one "hijo natural" or "hijo de padre
no conocido" in it.  It seems all other films I have searched included all
baptisms, hijos naturales, adoptivos, etc. even if they made reference to other
books where the actual names of the parents were written.  So, hmmm,
was Daddy illegitimate?  If so, is there a book for "hijos naturales" that
was not microfilmed?  What would such a book be called?  Where would
one obtain info from such a book, and would it take an act of congress to get
it?
 
My

Digest Number 651

Hello Linda:   I have been researching the Romeros also for some time but have made little progress.  Would you have among your names  VICTOR ROMERO or MONICO ROMERO or PETRA ROMERO GONZALEZ.  If you do I would love to hear from you.  If I asked you already I apologize for the repeat question.  Mary

Linda R Romero wrote:

My main focus is in Jalisco - Tepatitlan de Morelos to be exact.  I 
have not been able to find anything farther away than that little 
burg.  In fact, after lurking on this list all summer, I haven't 
found anyone with a connection to my Romero/de la Torre family from 
that area.  You are all such good researchers.  I've been to SLC and 
copied information from the Baptismos from Tepatitlan and am trying 
to connect the Romero/de la Torre names to my family.  My father was 
born there but told so many "stories" the truth is hard to find.  He 
even had us kids claim he was born in Guatamala throughout our school 
years.  I found the truth when I was an

Atotonilco

Yes, Alicia,
 
It is great when one record that states the "originario de" leads to other
places even in other states. That is how I got so far back on my husband's
tree---from Encarnacion de Diaz to other places in Jalisco and
Aguascalientes.  When we were at the SLC FHC, I kept my husband from being
bored out of his skull by retrieving one film after another for him after he
found his ancestors and loading them into the reader for him (something he
refused to do -- he is so "mandon"), and since he is fluent in Spanish, he found
the records easily and found them interesting and was amazed that one film kept
leading to others farther and farther back in time.  He also found records
for me, since he loves libraries. Also, he was able to speak to some Mexicans
and South Americans in Spanish and they were very helpful in figuring out
handwriting, etc.
 
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA ---
----- Original Message -----

Atotonilco

Joseph,
 
This is soooo cool, I can only imagine how it felt when you found that magic record, I bet you are still doing the happy dance. The wonderful thing is that with this one breakthrough it leads you to so many other names and "Ranchos''. The wonderful thing about most records is that they state what ''Rancho'' they resided in, it also tells you the names of the padrinos or the testigos and what ranchos they came from. The names of the ranchos are very telling because for the most part the padrinos and the testigos all came from the same area and in most cases they were all related.
 
Felicidades Joseph, y echale ganas !.........Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo

"v.h.villarreal" wrote:

Congratulations, Joseph, on breaking through your brick wall.  It
gives me hope that I can also break some brick walls of my own!

Also, I sympathize with you being "cansado" from all you duties and
chores as a group admnistrator.  You seem to have answered your own
questions from a

Romero/De La Torre

Linda,

Here's some additional information with what Arturo and Emile wrote.

Here is Marriage extract:
MANUEL ROMERO
  Male
Marriages:
  Spouse:  MARCELINA DE LA TORRE
  Marriage:  19 OCT 1870   Tepatitlan De Morelos, Jalisco, Mexico
Messages:
 Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The 
source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage 
date.
Source Information:
 Batch No.:  Dates:  Source Call No.:
 M603739  1869 - 1876  0218529

The couple had at least two children:
+ JOSE MARCOS ROMERO TORRE
Gender: Male Christening: 07 OCT 1871 Tepatitlan De Morelos, Jalisco, 
Mexico
+ JOSE SERAPIO ROMERO TORRE
Gender: Male Christening: 14 NOV 1872 Tepatitlan De Morelos, Jalisco, 
Mexico

Here is Marriage extract:
JOSE DE LA TORRE
  Male
Marriages:
  Spouse:  ELENA ROMERO
  Marriage:  04 FEB 1880   Tepatitlan De Morelos, Jalisco, Mexico
Messages:
 Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The 
source records are usually arranged

Tepatitlan de Morelos

Hello Linda! some marriages data include a reference to the place the novios or pretensos were born, maybe there you could find the route to places and people. others say how much time they were neighbors o vecinos to such and such place, and then you wonder why they were living ther for such a period you could then try to catch names in that region, hope you understand my english, I live in Tijuana, B. C. Mexico, I go to Mission Valley, in San Diego, there is a genealogy center, there I spent my time. So long, Leticia Leon

Joseph Puentes escribió:


here is an idea. Why not try to recruit some more people into the group
with roots in Tepatitlan de Morelos? Go to Rootsweb and to the message
boards and then in the search window enter "Tepatitlan de Morelos" and
then just plain "Tepatitlan." Have a look around for the messages of
people that seem to be serious and invite them to join Ranchos. I got
over a hundred hits on Tepatitlan and 27 for Tepatitlan de Morelos.

maybe go over

Chihuahua/New file uploaded to ranchos

you're right. when I have time I'll be correcting this when time permits



thanks,



joseph





Emilie Garcia wrote:

Joseph,
 
This file seems to belong to the Ciudad Juarez group, not the
"ranchos" group, no?  It lists only Chihuahua and not the areas for
"ranchos".
 
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA ---
-----
Original Message -----
Sent:
Wednesday, November 02, 2005 1:28 AM
Subject:
[ranchos] New file uploaded to ranchos



Hello,



This email message is a notification to let you know that

a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ranchos

group.



  File        : /Yolanda Bobby Perez (windrocklili@...)/DESCENDANTS
OF AGUSTIN FERNANDEZ.rtf

  Uploaded by : mexicanfhr jonathan@...>

  Description : 



You can access this file at the URL:

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Digest Number 651

Emilie:

That is a very good write up to get somebody started on this 
research.  Be careful Linda, because once you start, it becomes a 
sort of addiction.  The more you find, the more questions pop up and 
the more you go looking.

Here is the IGI entry for your great-granparents' marriage in 
Tepetitlan.  The next step would be to go to your family history 
center and order this film.  It should list both the bride and the 
groom's parents and then you should be able to find their baptism 
records in IGI or VRI as well, and those often list grandparents in 
addition to parents so you get two generations in one swoop.

MANUEL ROMERO  
  Male   Family 
Event(s): 
Marriages: 
  Spouse:  MARCELINA DE LA TORRE  Family 
  Marriage:  19 OCT 1870   Tepatitlan De Morelos, Jalisco, Mexico 

Batch No.: M603739
Source Call No.: 0218529 Film



--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia"  
wrote:
>
> Linda,
> 
> We mostly start by looking in the IGI in the FamilySearch

Tepatitlan de Morelos


here is an idea. Why not try to recruit some more people into the group
with roots in Tepatitlan de Morelos? Go to Rootsweb and to the message
boards and then in the search window enter "Tepatitlan de Morelos" and
then just plain "Tepatitlan." Have a look around for the messages of
people that seem to be serious and invite them to join Ranchos. I got
over a hundred hits on Tepatitlan and 27 for Tepatitlan de Morelos.


maybe go over to some of the other large groups and see who is
researching that area.


you say you've been to SLC, but are you ordering films and seaching them
in the family history center close to you? What city do you live in?
Where are you stuck and which type of records have you researched so far
and during what time period?


joseph




Linda R Romero wrote:

My main focus is in Jalisco - Tepatitlan de Morelos to be exact. I
have not been able to find anything farther away than that little
burg. In fact, after lurking on this list all summer, I