My main focus is in Jalisco - Tepatitlan de Morelos to be exact. I
have not been able to find anything farther away than that little
burg. In fact, after lurking on this list all summer, I haven't
found anyone with a connection to my Romero/de la Torre family from
that area. You are all such good researchers. I've been to SLC and
copied information from the Baptismos from Tepatitlan and am trying
to connect the Romero/de la Torre names to my family. My father was
born there but told so many "stories" the truth is hard to find. He
even had us kids claim he was born in Guatamala throughout our school
years. I found the truth when I was an adult. He also never allowed
us to learn Spanish. What a character! So I'll keep lurking and
learning from all you great researchers.

  Where do you find all that good information?

Linda Romero
  Ramon Romero/Marie L. Hallstead
     Castulo Romero/Sophia de la Torre - Donald Hallstead/Merle Beltz

Manuel Romero

Congratulations on breaking through your brick
wall...I'm jealous, wish it was me.

--- Joseph Puentes  wrote:

> 
> 
> elviraz wrote:
> 
> >>And, yes, the name is a little misleading because
> I do not
> >>see much discusion about the ranchos we were
> supposed to be
> >>finding out about.
> >>
> >>Elvira
> >>
> Today I broke through my last brick wall. . .in fact
> I didn't break 
> through it I pulverized it into non existence. I
> started off by not 
> knowing my maternal grandmothers real name to
> finding it by a collection 
> or oral history and the brief mention of a surname
> on my mom's death 
> certificate. Then about a couple of months ago I
> made contact with some 
> that told me that they were related to this
> grandmother and that she 
> came from Huejucar. Well today I confirmed that my
> grandmother, Antonia 
> Lopez was born 17 Jan 1892 in Atotonilco, Jalisco a
> Rancho not far from 
> Huejucar. Her parents are Francisco Lopez and
> Rosalia Garcia. Her 
>

I think the group should stay like it is now.  That is
my vote!
--- Margarita Vallazza  wrote:

> No.  I like what we're doing.    Sorry you're
> feeling overwhelmed, dear 
> Joseph.    Marge:)
> 
> On Nov 3, 2005, at 6:11 PM, Joseph Puentes wrote:
> 
> >
> >  I grow weary.
> >
> >  I can't go any more than how I'm going.
> >
> >  If we were to get a few moderators to handle all
> the added traffic and
> >  keep things orderly including dealing with Data
> Miners I might 
> > consider
> >  opening up the research area. But truthfully I
> can't handle anymore 
> > and
> >  if Ranchos were to double in size just from the
> geographic area as is
> >  I'd be in serious time trouble. I think the
> handwritting is on the 
> > wall.
> >  This group might need a new Moderator before too
> much longer.
> >
> >  For that matter why not just everyone move over
> to Jonathan's group? 
> > its
> >  already in place covering all of Mexico. Afterall
> its the membership
> >  that

I grow weary.

I can't go any more than how I'm going.

If we were to get a few moderators to handle all the added traffic and
keep things orderly including dealing with Data Miners I might consider
opening up the research area. But truthfully I can't handle anymore and
if Ranchos were to double in size just from the geographic area as is
I'd be in serious time trouble. I think the handwritting is on the wall.
This group might need a new Moderator

Congratulations, Joseph, on breaking through your brick wall.  It
gives me hope that I can also break some brick walls of my own!

Also, I sympathize with you being "cansado" from all you duties and
chores as a group admnistrator.  You seem to have answered your own
questions from a previous message.  

Easy does it!  

Victor



--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes  wrote:

> Today I broke through my last brick wall. . .in fact I didn't break 
> through it I pulverized it into non existence. I started off by not 
> knowing my maternal grandmothers real name to finding it by a
collection 
> or oral history and the brief mention of a surname on my mom's death 
> certificate. Then about a couple of months ago I made contact with some 
> that told me that they were related to this grandmother and that she 
> came from Huejucar. Well today I confirmed that my grandmother, Antonia 
> Lopez was born 17 Jan 1892 in Atotonilco, Jalisco a Rancho not far from 
> Huejucar

Hurray!!!!! Congratulations!!!!



On Nov 3, 2005, at 5:53 PM, Joseph Puentes wrote:

elviraz wrote:

And, yes, the name is a little misleading because I do not

see much discusion about the ranchos we were supposed to be

finding out about.



Elvira

last brick wall. . .in fact I didn't break through it I pulverized it into non existence. I started off by not knowing my maternal grandmothers real name to finding it by a collection or oral history and the brief mention of a surname on my mom's death certificate. Then about a couple of months ago I made contact with some that told me that they were related to this grandmother and that she came from Huejucar. Well today I confirmed that my grandmother, Antonia Lopez was born 17 Jan 1892 in Atotonilco, Jalisco a Rancho not far from Huejucar. Her parents are Francisco Lopez and Rosalia Garcia. Her Abuelos paternos are Nicolas Lopez and Alvina Perez and Abuelos maternos are Florentino Garcia and Toribia Renteria. My grandmother Antonia Lopez had