Emilie:

My grandfather actually came through El Paso in 1908
and lived in Canadian, Texas, worked for the Panhandle
Railroad.  I have the census for Canadian, TX and at
that time there were about 50 to 60 Mexican families
just starting out in this small railroad town, they
moved north up through New Mexico and then into KS,
they also worked the beet fields in Nebraska during
the summer months, but always came back home to Kansas
City.  However, my grandfather had brothers after
leaving Canadian, TX that also went West to CA., to
live.  It's interesting to always find out but usually
when they came across it was with their neighbors they
had in Mexico that later became their neighbors in
Canadian, TX and so on, they kept their neighbors
close to them.  

I would say their migration was about survival and
their jobs, wherever their jobs took them, they had to
pack up and follow and for my grandfather it was the
railroad.  Emilie, try research immigration papers for
your family if you

Susana I feel confident that our Muro lines will end
up as being connected...since my line has ended in
Villanueva where I've hit my brick wall...I have a
feeling we will end up in Jerez very soon just have to
find where they will connect somewhere near La Troje,
I know we found Muro's in La Encarncion so we are very
close.



--- Susana Leniski  wrote:

> Joseph,
> 
> I din't get the attachments in this mail. I saw in
> the map the places that you mention. Definitly they
> are very close, and the names match. My line Del
> Muro ended in La Troje (very close to La
> Encarnacion).
> I don't know if you've seen the page from Salvador
> Cabral. It has some of my information that I sent
> him, but I belive that he made a mistake on the
> oldest records. Unfortunaly he doesn't include
> sources.
> 
>
http://usuarios.lycos.es/jerezacatecas/archivo/indexm/muro2/pafg01.htm
> 
> susana
> 


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On Jan 20, 2006, at 9:02 AM, Carol Turner wrote:

My story - I always wondered why do I live in Kansas?

Growing up in the late 60's and early 70's wasn't easy

at times.  My paternal grandparents were here by 1916

and my maternal in the early 1920's in the state of

KS.  In doing my research and going back in time, I

found many stories that touched my heart of what my

grandparents had sacrificed, suffered and what their

lives were like when they first got here...it wasn't

easy.  My parents were told they couldn't speak

Spanish in school and that we need to try to "fit in"

with the others.  I went from Mexican to being a

Chicana to being Mexican American or Hispanic is what

they call us now.  We lived on the Westside Community

until I was 4 and then moved to Rosedale in KS which

at that time was predominately

My story - I always wondered why do I live in Kansas? 
Growing up in the late 60's and early 70's wasn't easy
at times.  My paternal grandparents were here by 1916
and my maternal in the early 1920's in the state of
KS.  In doing my research and going back in time, I
found many stories that touched my heart of what my
grandparents had sacrificed, suffered and what their
lives were like when they first got here...it wasn't
easy.  My parents were told they couldn't speak
Spanish in school and that we need to try to "fit in"
with the others.  I went from Mexican to being a
Chicana to being Mexican American or Hispanic is what
they call us now.  We lived on the Westside Community
until I was 4 and then moved to Rosedale in KS which
at that time was predominately Anglo.  They sent me to
St. Agnes and I grew up in this community and
basically still in this community.  Things change over
the years, St. Agnes is now 35% Hispanic and the
numbers are going up.  We have more Hispanic
celebrations