I grew up in the Los Angeles area in the 40's, moved to Compton, CA for 
a few years, then to Cucamonga, CA in 1952. I do not remember that my 
family practiced the Posada tradition, but seem to remember that we may 
have attended a "Posada" on Olvera Street during the Christmas season. 
I remember attending "Posadas" in Mexico City in the early 60's. I love 
the concept of the posada, but it always seemed like a lot of work to 
put it into practice for just my family.
Now - how about "La Pastorela"? Is this strictly a tradition in the 
southhwest? Again, this is not a tradition that was a part of my family.
How about yours?
Y'all have a good day. Take care.

Natalie in VA

-------- Original Message --------

Subject:	The "Posada" Ritual
Date:	Mon, 22 Aug 2005 01:49:57 -0500
From:	Joseph Puentes
To:	LosRanchos

someone asked me about the "Posada" ritual.

maybe it was happening around me in CA when I wasn't looking but for the 
life of me I don't know anything about this. Can someone give me a clue 
as to whether or not my relatives living in the 18th century and being 
from Jalisco, Zacatecas and Aguascalientes were involved in a "Posada" 
ritual?

joseph

ps: how was that for making the question on target?

ERROR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Sorry...when I was in SLC last year........I somehow got into some film that had padrones from Jalisco/Zac area.....these were put together by Dr. Doug Inglis and filmed.....I cannot for the life of me....find them....I will try to find the film in Utah.....it was the first time I had seen the census  of that area...????

Somehow or another my filing system leaves a lot to be desired!!



Mickey

[[[If you can get into the other parts of ranchos (links, files, photos,
etc.) but can't get into the this area please contact me]]]

go to the links area

go to AAAAA Genealogies

go to Ken Alva and click on "Jose Alonso de ALBA"

click on "Ken Alva (KMAlva@...)" and choose to open in "Word"


here you will see his genealogy for these geographical locations:

Encarnacion de Diaz, Lagos de Moreno, Santa Maria de los Lagos, San
Miguel de los Alba, Jalostitlan, Teocaltiche, and Ojuelos,
Jalisco/Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes

[[[Note to Ken (great job). . .did I forget any locations? Sorry but
Ojuelos is in Jalisco right???]]]

When I met him in November 2000, he did not. However, his friend and kinsman (and mine, too), Leonardo de la Torre Berumen has email (just look in Somos Primos). Leonardo has written many articles for SP. Marge:)

On Aug 20, 2005, at 4:31 PM, Alberto Duarte wrote:

Marge:

Does Mr. Bernardo del Hoyo Calzado have an email

address? I've read his book for a copy of years, and I

also want to the Dolores cemetery when I visited Jerez

a couple of years ago.



Regards.



Alberto Duarte Prieto.

Santa Maria, California









--- Joseph Puentes wrote:



>

> A Personal Research Adventure of a Scots-Irish

> Mexican American

>

>                                                  by

> Marge Vallazza

>

> For most of my life, I knew little of my personal

> Mexican heritage. I

> knew a lot about Mexico and its history but because

> my Scots mother was

> our primary caretaker, I knew and cared more about

> my Scots and

> Anglo-Irish heritage than my Hispanic one. After

Erlinda,

Take a look at this interesting document, which rises Villa de León to
the rank of Ciudad de León:

http://www.leonmex.com/media/27.jpg

Victor