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I'm looking into it. . . joseph Steve G. Apodaca wrote:
Hey Joseph. I was looking for the pdf census file on the ranchos2 area
and I could not find it. Is it possible that you can email me a copy of
the file or replace it on the website?
Thank you. Steve A Yahoo! Groups Links
Hey Joseph. I was looking for the pdf census file on the ranchos2 area and I could not find it. Is it possible that you can email me a copy of the file or replace it on the website? Thank you. Steve A
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I agree with Angie about all the good hints given in the Genealogy.com articles on Colonial writing. It is amazing to me that throughout the Western world in the 18th century, when communicating and traveling took forever, that people used the same script from London to Madrid to New York to Mexico. Since the priests were the educated class, I guess they standardized handwriting. However, it is also amazing to me that even in 18th century records, I sometimes come across script that is as modern as what we use today. I bless such priests when I read their jottings in baptisms, etc., and I curse the ones who had sloppy handriting or used the most archaic scripts.
For each change of priests in the recordings of baptisms, etc, I have to study and compare the way a particular priest formed his letters before I can understand his writing---then just as I am familiar with his writing, there comes another priest's handwriting, and off we go again. Also, don't you also just hate it
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Joseph, I don't think is was an "f". It is an elongated "s". Emilie Garcia Port Orchard, WA
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--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "John Gonzalez" 1gnzlz@v...> wrote: > I will be researching the "Cerros" name in Jerez , Zacatecas. As soon as I finish with the other names in Jalostotitlan. > > John Gonzalez > Wildomar, CA. > 1gnzlz@v... John, My name is Edward Serros and you can review my c.v., http://members.tripod.com/ eserros/new_page_7.htm, at your leisure. I have done an "extensive" review of my Zacatecas roots, Cerros and Felguerez, which you can review as attachments in a separate email I have sent to you; these materials are also available on this site. My grandmother, Maria Felguerez, was the illegitimate daughter of Santiago Felguerez, who was also the illegitimate son of one the Felguerez family, hacendados in Valparaiso and Colotlan---a complicated story. My grandfather, Jose Cruz Cerros, and my grandmother came to the US in 1919 or so. I have much data on the Felguerez but the Cerros genealogy has been difficult, to say the least, since I can not find
http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/scs/thinkagain/professional/immersion.htm Here is the complete link to the Spanish Immersion class in Zacatecas. Oh, how I wish I could be there! Emilie Garcia Port Orchard, WA Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com |
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You're welcome, Peggy,
Yes, it is amazing how polished my sister's Spanish has become since watching novelas in San Jose. I never was a fan of soap operas, but we do rent foreign films from the foreign film section at Hollywood Video here. Up here in Washington State, they do not broadcast the Spanish-language channels, unfortunately. I miss them. In order to get them up here one has to subscribe to the satellite TV companies, but that system hasn't worked out too well for those up here who have tried it---the satellites can't break through our frequent cloud cover and rain, and they were getting pixilated pictures on their screens, so they had to go back to cable TV.
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA
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I will be researching the "Cerros" name in Jerez , Zacatecas. As soon as I finish with the other names in Jalostotitlan. John Gonzalez Wildomar, CA. |
As an added note...for anyone starting out. I recommend you read all the articles from the last link regarding handwriting and common mispellings. The record abstracts become easier to read if you are aware of the handwriting 'issues' described. Also searching for your ancestors with the common mispelling thrown in allow you to find baptizism and marriage records that you won't find otherwise. Angie --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "aajay1073"wrote: > Under Genealogy.com Research guidelines, Deciphering Documents and > Handwriting there are a few articles: > > 1) Reading Handwriting > http://www.genealogy.com/00000010.html > > Towards the top of this document it says: > "Watch out for double S's. The first S in a pair was often written to > look like a lower case F." > > 2) Guidelines for Reading Old Documents > http://www.genealogy.com/68_sperry.html > > The material at Genealogy.com is a good read if you have a chance to > browse over there: > http
That's how it was done in those dayf, Jofef (Josef).:) And to top it off, they weren't consistent. My Chavez ancestors surnames is spelled alternately Llabes, llaves, Chavis, Chaves, de Chavis. Ortiz looks like Breton sometimes. Penmanship left a lot to be desired in those days. Read Finding Your Hispanic Roots by George Ryskamp. Marge:)
On Jul 12, 2005, at 4:47 PM, Joseph Puentes wrote:
I was watching a documentary about American Slave Narratives. In one of the stories it was talking about slaves being sold at auction and they showed a bill of sale. the time period was about 1850. In the bill of sale at the bottom it spell "witness" like this:
"witnefs"
now this reminds me of the times I've seen Castañeda spelled Caftañeda
does anyone know about the use of the "F" for "S's" in early handwritting?
thanks,
joseph
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