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2002 Phone Book of Macias/Durante

Thank you.

Alberto.

--- Joseph Puentes  wrote:

> 
> 
> Alberto Duarte wrote:
> 
> >Yes, also send me a scan of the Duartes.
> >
> >Thank you.
> >
> >Hey, Jose, we could be related!
> >  
> >
> 


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Margarita's rememberance of Jerez, Zacatecas

The whole idea of death in the District of Jerez is different than here stateside.  I wanted to visit all the cemeteries I'd found in the research records.  Our host could not understand my desire to go to cemeteries, he said the past was the past!  He did take us to the cemetery in Los Aros/Los Haros, I found all the names I have been researching clear back to the 1750's.  One could almost feel the ancestors... I also went to the cemetery in El Durazno.  They absolutely refused to take me to Panteon de los Dolores in Jerez, they said enough was enough...
 
 I did notice in Jerez that coffins are sold in shops that display them in the window, that was kinda shocking to me. They said when someone dies they have to be buried within 24 hours since they don't embalm.  In El Durazno they have the "viewing" in the home then go to the church for the service and then carry the coffin on their shoulders,complete with Mariachi's if they can afford them, and walk the 1/2 mile to the cemetery in a

Tamales and mole

I guess you're right, we did eat well at the expense of hotel rooms & baths!
We only ate out in Mexico because it was cheaper to feed a family of eight
with big appetites. :)  Occasional burgers in the U.S. happened more rarely.

During our trips, we would pile into a hotel room the night before arriving
to our first destination: Ags (my dad's family immigrated there from Jal.in
the 1950's) for showers.  The other 2 nights were spent in the car.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Alberto Duarte [mailto:albertodua@...] 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 8:32 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ranchos] Re: Tamales and mole

You ate real good!  I envy you.  I can count the number of times on my left
hand that my dad took us to a restaurant.

Alberto.

--- Irma GomezLucero  wrote:

> You're right Alberto.  I recall when I lived in San Diego, a 
> Mexican-Amer co-worker telling me that another made tamales funny.  I 
> responded with how does she make them?  He

Margarita's rememberance of Jerez, Zacatecas

I visited the same cemetery when I visited Jerez a
number of years ago.  I took photographs of the
headstones (those that I thought that were related to
me).  The church and cemetery were probably very
beautiful in their time, but yes, the site has been
neglected.  

Alberto.

--- Margarita Vallazza  wrote:

> Dear Jose,
> It's not a very big town but it is a lovely one!  I
> did get to go to a 
> cemetery called El Panteon de Dolores (there was
> more to the name, but 
> I cannot recall it.)  It was very interesting.  Some
> of graves are 
> covered by elaborate headstones and huge carved
> marblery.  A few are 
> very distant relatives or family connections of my
> grandmother's.  What 
> was also sad about this site was that here these
> folks had spent a LOT 
> of money to perpetuate their existence and the
> cemetery was so 
> neglected and overgrown with weeds.  One grave had a
> broken slab and 
> bees had made their hive inside.  My husband, our
> guide, and

Tamales and mole

You ate real good!  I envy you.  I can count the
number of times on my left hand that my dad took us to
a restaurant.

Alberto.

--- Irma GomezLucero  wrote:

> You're right Alberto.  I recall when I lived in San
> Diego, a Mexican-Amer
> co-worker telling me that another made tamales
> funny.  I responded with how
> does she make them?  He answered that she folded
> them instead of tying the
> ends with a small strip of hoja.  I smiled because
> we fold them, and I kept
> wondering why they tied the ends in all of the
> Mexican restaurants in San
> Diego.  This is when I discovered that this was how
> they made them in Baja
> California where my first co-worker's mom was from,
> and many of the
> restaurant cooks in the area.  By the way, I vote
> San Diego for the best
> Mexican restaurants.  In San Diego, my husband & I
> never got that stuffed
> feeling we often get from Northern Calif. Mexican
> restaurants, unlike my
> mom's.  
> 	I remember while traveling to

Tamales and mole

You're right Alberto.  I recall when I lived in San Diego, a Mexican-Amer
co-worker telling me that another made tamales funny.  I responded with how
does she make them?  He answered that she folded them instead of tying the
ends with a small strip of hoja.  I smiled because we fold them, and I kept
wondering why they tied the ends in all of the Mexican restaurants in San
Diego.  This is when I discovered that this was how they made them in Baja
California where my first co-worker's mom was from, and many of the
restaurant cooks in the area.  By the way, I vote San Diego for the best
Mexican restaurants.  In San Diego, my husband & I never got that stuffed
feeling we often get from Northern Calif. Mexican restaurants, unlike my
mom's.  
	I remember while traveling to Mexico as a kid to visit my abuelitos,
we used to have some of the best steaks in the Northern states from Ciudad
Juarez through Durango, Zacatecas, etc., to our final destination: San Juan
de los Lagos.  My dad would give

Margarita's rememberance of Jerez, Zacatecas

Dear Jose,

It's not a very big town but it is a lovely one! I did get to go to a cemetery called El Panteon de Dolores (there was more to the name, but I cannot recall it.) It was very interesting. Some of graves are covered by elaborate headstones and huge carved marblery. A few are very distant relatives or family connections of my grandmother's. What was also sad about this site was that here these folks had spent a LOT of money to perpetuate their existence and the cemetery was so neglected and overgrown with weeds. One grave had a broken slab and bees had made their hive inside. My husband, our guide, and myself were the only ones there and it was a sobering experience.



Sorry, I don't know anyone's address or anything. Leonardo de la Torre Berumen and Bernardo del Hoyo Calzada are two gentlemen whom I met on my trip. Bernardo and Leonardo collaborate a lot on historical research. You might be able to get Leonardo's email address from Mimi Lozano's Somos Primos

Jerez, Zacatecas: 2002 Phone Book of Macias

Yes, also send me a scan of the Duartes.

Thank you.

Hey, Jose, we could be related!



Alberto.

--- Joseph Puentes  wrote:

> Jose,
> 
> I have a 2002 phone book that has a section for
> Jerez. Would you like 
> for me to send you a scan of all the Macias?
> 
> joseph
> 
> 
> zendean wrote:
> 
> >Margarita;
> >    My great grandfather and ggmother were from
> Jerez, Zacatecas. I wonder, 
> >is it a big town ? Francisco Macias and his wife
> Leonarda Ramirez are and 
> >have always been a mystery to me. My Aunt told me
> that they visited them in 
> >Zacatecas when they were little and that the
> Macias's lived on a farm there.
> >    I wonder if you know some one that is there now
> that I can correspond 
> >with to ask about them.
> >
> >Jose Macias
> >usa20@...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Margarita Vallazza" 
> >To: 
> >Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 8:51 AM
> >Subject: Re: [ranchos] FOOD:Mole/Pipian