Ed,

It is probably not the same Diego Pinedo they you speak of, but I was 
just wondering if you have additional information on this couple.

Diego PINEDO married to Juana DE ESCOVEDO.  They had at least one 
daughter, Augustina PINEDO. She married on 15 Sep 1734 in San Luis, 
Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico Juan DE AYON, son of Nicolas DE AYON and 
Petra DE LA MADERA.  This couple had at least five children.

Thanks,
Angie

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Edward Serros"  wrote:
> Jessica,
> 
> I have been trying to figure out how to respond to you and to 
Arturo's comments. I agree 
> with what Arturo has said in general. The Valparaiso data is 
indexed well in the Mormon 
> films after about 1880, so it is fairly straight forward after 
those dates; the Internet IGI 
> (familysearch.org data) is another story and is sparse to say the 
least. Before 1880 it is a 
> real crap-shoot, at least for me. My families came in and out of 
the Valparaiso area and I 
> sometimes wonder if

Hello All,

I have added new families to my genealogy over the last year, so I 
decided to update all my files.

Take a look and let me know if you recoginize a name...

Angie Godina


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I too have come across instances in the 1500s and
1600s where some siblings took on the surname of their
father and others, their mother's. I have heard some
of the following explanations to account for this:

1)Perhaps their mother's line was more distinguished,
particularly if she was the daughter or grandaughter
of someone famous;

2)Perhaps their father had committed some crime and
some of his children did not want to be associated
with his name;

3)Perhaps the father's line/surname was associated as
being Sephardic and some children wished to disguise
this fact, particularly when the Inquisition came to
Mexico.

Or perhaps it really was not that big a deal back then
to take on one parent's name over the other. I imagine
for most of the Spanish conquistadores and immigrants,
coming to the New World must have been a fluid time in
terms of identity--it was a rare chance to remake
themselves.

Chris Pineda   

--- Arturo Ramos  wrote:

> Linda:
> 
> I got some

Linda:

I got some persepective on this issue from Mssrs. de la Torre Berumen 
and Valdes Salazar while I was down in Mexico.

Apparently, soon after the Mexican independence, President Vicente 
Guerrero (who was mulatto) decreed that all Spaniards be expelled from 
Mexico.  In reality, many were exempted but certainly all of those who 
had been loyalists during the war of independence and those that had 
royal ties (since Mexico was now a republic) were expelled.

Those Spanish families that remained became weary of being labeled 
Spanish and particularly loyalists or royalists and thus those 
with "composed names" such as "Carlos y Godoy" or "Fernandez de Jara 
Quemada" quickly dropped parts of their names to mexicanize them.  I 
think it was somewhat arbitrary which parts they dropped.

On a similar note, I would appreciate hearing any perspectives people 
may have about how children chose whether to take on the mother's 
family name vs. the father's family name.  I have run across

I'm hoping you can help me with double surnames.  Is there a 
difference when they use De or Y? Such as Alvares del Castillo or 
Ochoa y Garibay?  How long did they usually keep the double surname?  
I haven't found a reason why some families ended up using the surname 
they chose.. Villasenor y Jaso, some went Villasenor and others went 
Jaso.. same family!

I have gone from records in Tamazula Jalisco to Chilchota Michoacan.  
So many families from that part of Jalisco came from this area of 
Michoacan in the later 1700's.  In doing marriage records from there 
I'm finding it not unusual to have the actual marriage in the home of 
a family member, was that normal for the mid 1750's?
Linda in Everett

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos"  wrote:
>
> Jessica:
> 
> I think you are going to have somewhat of a difficult time since I 
> think that the Valparaiso films are not indexed in familysearch.  I 
> know that Ed Serros is researching family in that parrish so he can 
> probably give you some better tips about what to do, but it may 
> entail simply ordering the films and going through them.  Many of the 
> books from the 19th century have indexes by name, so perhaps it is 
> not as daunting as it may seem.
> 
> Good luck.

Jessica,

I have been trying to figure out how to respond to you and to Arturo's comments. I agree 
with what Arturo has said in general. The Valparaiso data is indexed well in the Mormon 
films after about 1880, so it is fairly straight forward after those dates; the Internet IGI 
(familysearch.org data) is another story and is sparse to say the least. Before 1880 it is a 
real crap-shoot, at least for me. My families came in and

Yolanda,

Sorry it has taken me so long to do the lookup for you but here it is.

 

I have taken the following excerpts from Jose Luis's book relating to Juan Yñiguez. I don't believe he is the one you are looking for because the dates and the wife's name don't coincide but just to be on the safe side
I have noted all the pages with Juan Yñiguez and the facts pertaining to each page.

 

 

Page 73:  Juan Yñiguez, married to Maria Melchora de los Reyes, padron de año 1649, hijo de Juan Yñiguez y Andrea Cortes.

 

Page 73: In 1628, Ana de Santiago, hija de Juan Iñiguez y Andrea Cortez se caso con Nicolas Estrada, hijo de Xacome Xinoves (Yñiguez) y