Joseph, WOW!!!!

What a great format for airing our concerns about who we are as a 
group of people as diverse and any other ethnic group!

My father hates to this day the word "Chicano" because in his younger 
days in California it was used in a very negative, gang style manner.  
To him it's a put down and very militant.  I guess that's how we pick 
up our own racist attitudes, we learn them at home... I still cring 
when someone calls me Chicana.. so much to unlearn and with the help 
of forums like this I'm getting better!

thank you again Joseph
Linda in Everett

I want to thank everyone for the input on double surnames and y versus 
de... I had forgotten that I use a double surname too!  I felt I 
didn't want to give up my Hispanic maiden name so just hyphenated it 
with my married name.  That makes me Castanon-Long, I guess in Latin 
America that would make me Castanon y Long ... I found at the family 
reunion that most of my female cousins from my generation did the 
same.  Many of us did not marry Hispanic but would have kept our 
maiden name regardless. Just like someone said, it's a matter of 
family pride..

One more question.. which is 'politically' correct to designate our 
nationality of origin if we or our ancestors were from Mexico... 
Hispanic, Latino, Mexican-American or American-Mexican?  I find I 
really upset some people when I call myself Hispanic. I'm told that 
excludes my Indio blood... People ask me what my nationality is 
because I'm just brown enough to not be Anglo but have light green 
eyes, my sister get's the same

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "aajay1073"  wrote:
>
> Ed,
> 
> It is probably not the same Diego Pinedo they you speak of, but I was 
> just wondering if you have additional information on this couple.
> 
> Diego PINEDO married to Juana DE ESCOVEDO.  They had at least one 
> daughter, Augustina PINEDO. She married on 15 Sep 1734 in San Luis, 
> Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico Juan DE AYON, son of Nicolas DE AYON and 
> Petra DE LA MADERA.  This couple had at least five children.
> 
> Thanks,
> Angie
 
Angie,

I unfortunately do not have much information regarding Pinedos. You might ask Arturo 
Ramos who has both Pinedo and Escobedo family ancestors; he already has an amazing 
collection of data.

Ed

Use of the "de" in double surnames.

My wife was a Mexican citizen living in Mexico when I married her.  
Her maiden name was: Isaura Martinez Vallejo.  Martinez was her 
father's last name and Vallejo her mother's.   After we got married 
and she was processing her papers to become a legal resident, her 
name became: Isaura Martinez Vallejo de Gonzalez.  The part "de 
Gonzalez" was added to designate her marriage to a "Gonzalez" That 
is how her name appears on her Green Card and also on her Mexican 
Passport. Once in the United States, she only uses Isaura Gonzalez, 
and that is how it appears on her American Passport and all of her 
legal documents. She is a U.S. Citizen now. 

I lived in Mexico for 10 years and noticed that that was the costum 
( law ? very possible, since that is how it used on official 
documents ) "de" is used like Mrs. is used here.

I believe "de" was also used in a different way when it was part of 
a name of a MALE to designate his place of origin.  Rodrigo