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Argentine names

Actually, the Germans and Italians are new arrivals. 
They did not come to Argentina until the end of the
second world war.  If you review the early history of
Argentina, you will not see the many German and
Italian names you see now.

Alberto

--- readysetgo95814  wrote:

> Jose Luis,
> 
> I know that there has been a significant number of
> Italian and 
> German Immigrants in Argentina.  Perhaps that's why
> the names seem 
> so different from those found in other Latin
> American countries. 
> Maybe you could try looking for Italian and German
> phone books on 
> the Internet?  The names could've also been changed
> by the priest to 
> sound more Spanish.  Like the name Lomelin was
> changed from the 
> original Italian surname of Lomellini in Mexico. 
> Just a thought.
> 
> Maria
> 
> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "zendean"
>  wrote:
> > Joseph,
> >     Thank you for the kind words about the work I
> do on 
> extraction. Joseph, I have a problem that I hope

Maria's sugestion for Argentine names

Hi Jose Luis,

I found a link to the Italian white pages:  
http://www.paginebianche.it/index.html
For Germany:
http://www.teleauskunft.de/

I did a Google search using their language tools and then selected 
the language and country.  That is how I found the above links. I 
was thinking it might be easier to go to an Argentine Genealogy 
group (like our Ranchos group) and asking them about the surnames.  
That might make it easier to decipher those names.

I sure do appreciate the work that you are doing. The IGI is a great 
resource to us all.

Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "zendean"  wrote:
> Dear Maria;
>     Thank you ever so much for your suggestion. Could you tell me 
how to see 
> an Italian or German telephone book on the Internet ? I will 
quickly do what 
> you have suggested. I have done 1890 to 1895 so far for the church 
in 
> Argentina. I still have another 1,800 names to extract before I am 
finished. 
> I will go over the names once again to try

Slavery in Mexico: John Schmal


 Abstract from SLAVERY IN COLONIAL MEXICO
By John P. Schmal

The Marriages of Slaves in Mexico

The majority of slaves brought to the shores of Mexico were male. With a
lack of female Africans, most of these men eventually chose Indian or
mestizo women as spouses. The long-established Siete Partidas laws of
Spain granted slaves the right to select their spouses. Slave masters
were thus forbidden from intervening in this decision.


Professor Martha Menchaca, the author of Recovering History,
Reconstructing Race: The Indian, Black, and White Roots of Mexican
Americans, observed that "this legislation was of monumental importance
because it became the gateway for the children of slaves to gain their
freedom.


Due to the lobbying efforts of the Catholic Church the children of Black
male slaves and Indian women were declared free and given the right to
live with their mother." With laws that granted freedom to the children
of a slave who married into other racial

International Phone Books: Was- Maria's sugestion for Argentine names

International Phone Books:



http://www.globalyp.com/world.htm

http://www.infobel.com/teldir/





unfortuneately it doesn't let you browse



joseph



zendean wrote:

Dear Maria;
    Thank you ever so much for your suggestion. Could you tell me how to see 
an Italian or German telephone book on the Internet ? I will quickly do what 
you have suggested. I have done 1890 to 1895 so far for the church in 
Argentina. I still have another 1,800 names to extract before I am finished. 
I will go over the names once again to try any new names that I find. I 
didn't recognize them as Hispanic/Spanish names, they appear odd, "Buachasa 
Lorenjasa", "Julijenta Chuebulan" and others that I have never seen before, 
or they appear spelled as I just spelled them or maybe I mistook the letters 
in the name and they are spelled altogether differently. Also, the church 
fathers making the entries use script and it is so hard to read. If they 
would use calligraphy so I could use my book, that would be

Behind the Name URL

I don't know about phone books but check out:
http://www.behindthename.com/ and click on their German and Italian
Names area for some ideas.



joseph



zendean wrote:

Dear Maria;
    Thank you ever so much for your suggestion. Could you tell me how to see 
an Italian or German telephone book on the Internet ? I will quickly do what 
you have suggested. I have done 1890 to 1895 so far for the church in 
Argentina. I still have another 1,800 names to extract before I am finished. 
I will go over the names once again to try any new names that I find. I 
didn't recognize them as Hispanic/Spanish names, they appear odd, "Buachasa 
Lorenjasa", "Julijenta Chuebulan" and others that I have never seen before, 
or they appear spelled as I just spelled them or maybe I mistook the letters 
in the name and they are spelled altogether differently. Also, the church 
fathers making the entries use script and it is so hard to read. If they 
would use calligraphy so I could use my book, that would

Maria's sugestion for Argentine names

Dear Maria;

Thank you ever so much for your suggestion. Could you tell me how to see
an Italian or German telephone book on the Internet ? I will quickly do what
you have suggested. I have done 1890 to 1895 so far for the church in
Argentina. I still have another 1,800 names to extract before I am finished.
I will go over the names once again to try any new names that I find. I
didn't recognize them as Hispanic/Spanish names, they appear odd, "Buachasa
Lorenjasa", "Julijenta Chuebulan" and others that I have never seen before,
or they appear spelled as I just spelled them or maybe I mistook the letters
in the name and they are spelled altogether differently. Also, the church
fathers making the entries use script and it is so hard to read. If they
would use calligraphy so I could use my book, that would be fine or print,
that would be fine. Each new priest has different script writing. Some you
may be familiar with are that some make a "J" and put a line through it and

Argentine names

Jose Luis,

I know that there has been a significant number of Italian and 
German Immigrants in Argentina.  Perhaps that's why the names seem 
so different from those found in other Latin American countries. 
Maybe you could try looking for Italian and German phone books on 
the Internet?  The names could've also been changed by the priest to 
sound more Spanish.  Like the name Lomelin was changed from the 
original Italian surname of Lomellini in Mexico.  Just a thought.

Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "zendean"  wrote:
> Joseph,
>     Thank you for the kind words about the work I do on 
extraction. Joseph, I have a problem that I hope that you could  
help   with. When I am doing the names on the records I often find 
strange names and spellings. I had a baby name book for naming kids 
and I wonder if there exists such a book for Latino kids. I thought 
that a phone book would help so I got one for a local city that has 
a lot of Hispanic families. There seems to

Teocaltiche Church Records

Dear Group Members:For those of you researching Teocaltiche, Jalisco,
Mexico,  I am viewing a film from the Teocaltiche church records
#0639009, baptisms 1889-1890. I am searching for my maternal
grandmothers' informaton, Juana Fuentes. She married Cresencio Avila,
son of Narciso Avila and Senovia Carrillo, date unknown. If you have
any names during that time line that you want me to look for while I
search, please let me know, I will be happy to do this. Hilda McGuire 



HispanicGivenNames: Was:Somos Primos May 2005/I'm Crippled

well I don't have any understanding of this subject like I'd like to
but here is a book that might have something to say about it. You might
want to do a WorldCat Search of it and do an ILL:


Title : Hispanic first names : a comprehensive
dictionary of 250 years of Mexican-American usage / compiled by Richard
D. Woods.
Author : Woods,
Richard Donovon.
Publisher : Westport, Conn. : Greenwood Press, 1984.
Subject : Names,
Personal
--Mexican
American.


Names,
Personal
--Spanish.

Names,
Personal
--United
States.

Description : xviii, 224 p. ; 25 cm.
Notes : English and Spanish.

Bibliography: p. [215]-224.
Series Title : Bibliographies
and indexes in anthropology, no. 1

ISBN : 0313241937 (lib. bdg.)