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FIRST MESTIZO.

I believe it took place in 1519, when Cortes first set foot on what 
is now Mexico. At that time there were only rumors about the big city 
of Tenochtitlan. I think Cortes was the third expedition to Mexico, 
because the first two had failed with many casualties. The author of 
the book, Bernal Diaz del Castillo, was actually part of those three 
expeditions, including the battles against the aztecs and the 
conquest of Tenochtitlan.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Alberto Duarte  
wrote:
> What year did this take place?
> 
> Alberto.
> --- "Steve G. Apodaca"  wrote:
> > 
> > I just wanted to write something that I found out
> > recently while 
> > reading Historia de la Conquista de la Nueva Espana,
> > by Bernal Diaz 
> > del Castillo. Perhaps many of you know about this
> > story, but anyways, 
> > it is about the first mexican mestizo. It was not,
> > like I used to 
> > believe, from the union of Cortes and la Malinche,
> > but rather of 
> >

First Mestizo

There are a couple more of statues of Gonzalo Guerrero but the 
pictures are very small also.

http://www.undiscoveredmexico.com/rivieramaya/akumal/

http://www.e-local.gob.mx/work/templates/enciclo/qroo/Mpios/23004a.htm

And a painting:

http://www.mexicodesconocido.com.mx/espanol/historia/personajes/detall
e.cfm?idpag=4167&idsec=5&idsub=0

Victor


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia"  
wrote:
> The date that Gonzalo Guerrero, father of the first Mestizos, 
arrived in the new world was around the Spring of 1511 on a ship that 
landed on the Yucatan Peninsula, possibly in Cozumel, or Zama or 
Tulum or Ple la Xelha of today, according to the article about 
the "Estatua de Gonzalo Guerrero". The bronze statue is in the city 
of Merida, and shows a Spaniard in full regalia with an Indian squaw 
kneeling at his feet.  The photo is so small, and I tried finding 
another larger photo on the Internet to no avail
> 
> Emilie
>    Port Orchard, WAGet more from

First Mestizo

Compare to other groups, we're fairly new.  But we are
special!

Alberto.
--- Emilie Garcia  wrote:
> The date that Gonzalo Guerrero, father of the first
> Mestizos, arrived in the new world was around the
> Spring of 1511 on a ship that landed on the Yucatan
> Peninsula, possibly in Cozumel, or Zama or Tulum or
> Ple la Xelha of today, according to the article
> about the "Estatua de Gonzalo Guerrero". The bronze
> statue is in the city of Merida, and shows a
> Spaniard in full regalia with an Indian squaw
> kneeling at his feet.  The photo is so small, and I
> tried finding another larger photo on the Internet
> to no avail
> 
> Emilie
>    Port Orchard, WAGet more from the Web.  FREE MSN
> Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com
> 


		
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joseph/linking to World Connect: was-Request for Additional FileSp

Well, Joey, Pepe, Don Jose, my boy, I was just trying to give you the respect due a Webmaster, ha, ha.  OK, I will refer to you in future as Joseph.  You are not an old guy, I know; and at 66 I am probably the oldest member of this group.
 
I will send the links to you off-line and then you can see if you can put them on a file of links that point to my trees in World Connect?  Is that what you will do?  It will take me a while to figure out again how to bring up my trees so I can copy and paste the URL.  It always takes me a while whenever I send the link to others, since I am technologically challenged. I used to try and send the trees from the Ancestry.com site that I use to update them, but my sister said she was  blocked from accessing my trees from that site because she is not a subscriber to that site, etc.
 
Hasta Luego,
 
     Emilie
     Port Orchard, WA
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Puentes
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 5:14 PM
Sub

joseph/linking to World Connect: was-Request for Additional File Space

joseph



i'm joseph



not old fuddy duddy Mr. Puentes. . .actually "Don Jose" kind of sounds
appealing. . .



. . .well now that I've got that off my chest  8^)



. . .what would you like to do, learn how to set the link yourself (if
so contact me off list) or would you like for me to point your
genealogy toward World Connect? If the latter supply me with the URL or
URL's and I'll make up a folder for your in the "Links" area.



thanks,



Mr. Puentes (hmmmm. I mean joseph)



ps: now is this the face of an old guy?





Emilie Garcia wrote:


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 I had told Mr. Puentes

JPEG image

Digest Number 475

Google Mail.
I am sending you an invitation to google mail; they give you 1000 mg of space.


There are 7 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. Archivo de Indias
From: Joseph Puentes
2. Target Area: Was- FIRST MESTIZO.
From: Joseph Puentes
3. Request for Additional File Space
From: Joseph Puentes
4. Delete
From: Joseph Puentes
5. Re: Request for Additional File Space
From: Smiley
6. Re: Delete
From: Smiley
7. Re: FIRST MESTIZO.
From: Alberto Duarte


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:51:02 -0400
From: Joseph Puentes
Subject: Archivo de Indias

Archivo de
Indias
http://www.ldelpino.com/archivos.html




________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________

Message: 2
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 14:18:13 -0400
From: Joseph Puentes
Subject

First Mestizo

The date that Gonzalo Guerrero, father of the first Mestizos, arrived in the new world was around the Spring of 1511 on a ship that landed on the Yucatan Peninsula, possibly in Cozumel, or Zama or Tulum or Ple la Xelha of today, according to the article about the "Estatua de Gonzalo Guerrero". The bronze statue is in the city of Merida, and shows a Spaniard in full regalia with an Indian squaw kneeling at his feet.  The photo is so small, and I tried finding another larger photo on the Internet to no avail.
 
Emilie
   Port Orchard, WA




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Request for Additional File Space

Good idea, Deena,
 
I had told Mr. Puentes that I do not have a genealogy program on my computer because it is old and does not have enough memory for one, so I was unable to upload any gedcoms to the Ranchos files.  However, I have many trees on World Connect and I offered to send a link to them.  I would need instructions on how to do that, since I am not all that computer literate.  I got my trees on World Connect by using the online Family Tree program at Ancestry.com.  It is very user friendly for me, plus I can store all my trees outside of my computer at a safe place where they won't get lost and where everyone interested can see them.  I update them there from time to time as I find more information.  I have been contacted by and been able to help others researching the same lines also.
 
    Emilie
     Port Orchard, WA.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Deena Ortiz
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 12:00 PM
To: ranchos@...m
Subject: [ranchos] Re: Request for Additional File

Request for Additional File Space

I wrote this email to Yahoo asking about info on purchasing additional
"File" space. It seems that they don't have that option available. We are
going to have to think about some near > term solutions to our dwindling
file space.


Perhaps everyone should upload a GEDCOM file to worldconnect.rootsweb.com.
That way a link could be stored in the file space, but the data would be
stored elsewhere, freeing up a lot of space.


~Deena Ortiz~



FIRST MESTIZO.

What year did this take place?

Alberto.
--- "Steve G. Apodaca"  wrote:
> 
> I just wanted to write something that I found out
> recently while 
> reading Historia de la Conquista de la Nueva Espana,
> by Bernal Diaz 
> del Castillo. Perhaps many of you know about this
> story, but anyways, 
> it is about the first mexican mestizo. It was not,
> like I used to 
> believe, from the union of Cortes and la Malinche,
> but rather of 
> another espanol way before that.
> 
> The story says that when Cortes first landed on the
> Yucatan peninsula, 
> he heard the news from the indian translators that
> two espaniards were 
> slaves in that area. He sent for his rescue, and
> paid a ransom to 
> their masters for their freedom. One of them was a
> priest called 
> Jeronimo de Aguilar. As soon as he was freed, he
> went to look for the 
> other espanol. This is what the book says:
> 
> "When he had read the letter and received the
> ransom, he carreid the 
> beads delightedly to