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Thanks Elvira!!! I knew they were
great names, now I'm a little more educated on what they mean. Thanks!
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Yes, Gloria,
Estijeras is one word I remember. Also "muncho" rather than
"mucho". "Estenazas" I don't remember. My father, who spoke good Castellan and was from Zacatecas was always correcting her Spanish, and since we had learned the language from her and her family due to our separation during WWII, my sister and I just gave up speaking it, rather than be constantly scolded by Daddy. He also hated it when my mother would say, "Tu saves?" constantly. My husband thinks she meant to say "sin embargo" but she used "tu saves" instead. My husband says he remembers their accent more than anything else and the manner of speech: "hequia" for acequia, etc. Also, because of the invasion of Americans into their territory in the late 1840's, their speech included lots of Americanisms: Carro instead of auto, discear for disking the land, etc. Their accent I remember when they spoke English, was a slightly Spanish accented Western twang, like the American cowboys, and |
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Elvira,
Thank you so much for the information on these novelas.
Emilie
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Yeah, my mom, born near Magdalena, New Mexico, also used old Spanish words: estijeras instead of tijeras estenazas instead of tenazas The following site, states: Origen de estenazas y de estijeras parece aragonés. http://www.hoyabunolchiva.org/iec/iec/publicacions/REV2/B5.HTM She said muncho instead of mucho. My dad who was from Mexico thought it was funny. An interesting url for the Ladino Language: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~benven/ladino.html Gloria who sometimes forgets and say muncho!!
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Great link Victor. You are better than a search engine! Thanks. Maria Cortez --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "v.h.villarreal"wrote: > > --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Pacorro73@a... wrote: > > > > Now who ever said that the Jáuregui family was not discussed in José > > Luis Vásquez y Rodríguez de Frías' book titled Genealogía de > > Nochistlán, Antiguo Reino de la Nueva Galicia en el Siglo XVII. That > > is totally NOT TRUE. I already read the whole book from cover to cover > > and entered much of the information from the book into my own family > > tree. Despite the abundance of errors, José Luis Vásquez y Rodríguez > > de Frías has a lot of great original research. > > > > If anyone has the book, I invite them to open it to pages 76 through > > 78, Capitulo 21-Descendencia de Juan de Chávez Salguero y Francisca de > > Siordia. Their daughter Josepha de Siordia-Chávez, married Juan > > Francisco Jáuregui, in Nochistlán on 4 Dec 1662.
Historical Novelas
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emilie,
Yes, they are like miniseries. As I
understand it, a Mexican department store chain came up with the idea of celebrating its 100 anniversary with a series of historical novelas, so they commissioned the novelas already in existence plus others in the planning to be put on CD, DVD, and tapes. They are fairly cheap to way cheaper on e-bay than through other sources. Most are under 30 dollars. some are adapted to so many DVDS, others are complete. Here's a list of some that are available. The
summaries are not mine, they are found on the internet under various authors. to find them just type in the novels' names and look for the one that rads the name plus the word telenovela: La antorcha encendida. Summary: Three centuries of Spanish domination. Three hundred years
in which the discontent roiling the population of New Spain has grown along with their wounds of injustice, exploitation, poverty and discrimination. It is in this awakening Mexico that the love |
Odd names WAS
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I am temporarily back home, so here are
some of the names you were wondering about. I have some of them in my family also. You'll notice that the spanish Priests never picked stupid, insulting names, only uplifting ones and worthy of emulation. Elvira
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Maria,
Both of your suggestions are great, the important thing is that it's now open for discussion. It is possible some people might have read some books that they would be willing to loan or exchange with others. I do have to tell you that I am quite possessive of my resource books because I constantly use them as references and don't like to part with them or share them for fear that they will not be returned which happened on several occasions.
Alicia
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Alicia,
while I think it's a wonderful idea, I don't think I (or every
member) could commit to reading the same book. How about one member
reads a book of their choice and makes a presentation to the rest of
the group on the highlights
of the book. We could also consider a
book-exchange. I loan you one of mine and you loan me one of yours
and we exchange back at the next meeting. At any rate, I'll add this
topic to our next meeting's agenda.
Maria
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Alberto Duarte: 1550: Suave!!!
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Note to : Alberto Duarte. Thank you for the information on Steven Hernandez, Ill try to establish a connection with him.
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Alberto Duarte: 1550: Suave!!!
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John, I was mistaken about the organization the gentlemen belong too; he told me it was called SHHAR, not Somos Primos. I'm trying to contact him through SHHAR and once I do, I'll get his email address and forward it to your attention. In my search for the above unknown gentlemen, I found a genealogist that does has information on the original Gonzalez families from Los Altos that may help you in your research. I've listed his name and email address below. Please contact him. Steven F. Hernández pacorro73@... sfhernandez1@... Regards, Alberto Duarte Prieto Santa Maria, California --- John Gonzalez 1gnzlz@...> wrote: > > 1gnzlz@... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joseph Puentes > To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 3:32 AM > Subject: [ranchos] Alberto Duarte: 1550: Suave!!! > > > > can you contact the Westwood FHC and ask them if > they know who you are talking about? Maybe he is a > regular patron of that FHC. I would