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Jáuregui/Xáuregui from San Sebastián

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Pacorro73@a... wrote:
>
> Now who ever said that the Jáuregui family was not discussed in José 
> Luis Vásquez y Rodríguez de Frías' book titled Genealogía de 
> Nochistlán, Antiguo Reino de la Nueva Galicia en el Siglo XVII.  That 
> is totally NOT TRUE.  I already read the whole book from cover to cover 
> and entered much of the information from the book into my own family 
> tree.  Despite the abundance of errors, José Luis Vásquez y Rodríguez 
> de Frías has a lot of great original research.
> 
> If anyone has the book, I invite them to open it to pages 76 through 
> 78, Capitulo 21-Descendencia de Juan de Chávez Salguero y Francisca de 
> Siordia.  Their daughter Josepha de Siordia-Chávez, married Juan 
> Francisco Jáuregui, in Nochistlán on 4 Dec 1662.  Juan Francisco de 
> Xáuregui was born in San Sebastián, Señoría de Vizcaya, España.  San 
> Sebastián is largest port city of the Basque country.  Jáuregui is a 
> BASQUE surname and our Jáuregui

Jáuregui/Xáuregui

Now who ever said that the Jáuregui family was not discussed in José
Luis Vásquez y Rodríguez de Frías' book titled Genealogía de
Nochistlán, Antiguo Reino de la Nueva Galicia en el Siglo XVII. That
is totally NOT TRUE. I already read the whole book from cover to cover
and entered much of the information from the book into my own family
tree. Despite the abundance of errors, José Luis Vásquez y Rodríguez
de Frías has a lot of great original research.


If anyone has the book, I invite them to open it to pages 76 through
78, Capitulo 21-Descendencia de Juan de Chávez Salguero y Francisca de
Siordia. Their daughter Josepha de Siordia-Chávez, married Juan
Francisco Jáuregui, in Nochistlán on 4 Dec 1662. Juan Francisco de
Xáuregui was born in San Sebastián, Señoría de Vizcaya, España. San
Sebastián is largest port city of the Basque country. Jáuregui is a
BASQUE surname and our Jáuregui ancestor was very BASQUE.
Unfortunately the 1662-marriage document never mentions

Fw: 'Que quiere decir . . . . . '

 
 
Hi Tony:
 
Incertidumbre
means:   Uncertainty
 
John Gonzalez
Wildomar, CA.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 3:43
PM
Subject: [ranchos] Fw: 'Que quiere decir
. . . . . '

Hello all,
 
Often I print out some of the group's messages that I think my husband
Tony would be interested in, and I had given him the latest discourses on the
novelas, etc. When he thought of something he wanted to ask the group, he
tried to send the e-mail below from his computer.  However, it bounced,
since he is not a subscribed member of the group.  Could someone answer
his question?  Thanks.
 
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA . . .

 ----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 3:06 PM
Subject: 'Que quiere decir . . . . . '

Q-Vo!
 
Back in the l940's when I was a

Fw: 'Que quiere decir . . . . . '

According to my trusted Spanish English dictionary, "incertidumbre" means "uncertainty".  I remember hearing this word too when family members were talking about how one could not predict what would happen at any time.  Mary

Emilie Garcia wrote:
Hello all,
 
Often I print out some of the group's messages that I think my husband Tony would be interested in, and I had given him the latest discourses on the novelas, etc. When he thought of something he wanted to ask the group, he tried to send the e-mail below from his
computer.  However, it bounced, since he is not a subscribed member of the group.  Could someone answer his question?  Thanks.
 
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA . . .

 ----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 3:06 PM
Subject: 'Que quiere decir . . . . . '

Q-Vo!
 
Back in the l940's when I was a chabalito in El
Paso and before the advent of television

Northern California book of the quarter

Alicia,
while I think it's a wonderful idea, I don't think I (or every 
member) could commit to reading the same book. How about one member 
reads a book of their choice and makes a presentation to the rest of 
the group on the highlights of the book.  We could also consider a 
book-exchange.  I loan you one of mine and you loan me one of yours 
and we exchange back at the next meeting.  At any rate, I'll add this 
topic to our next meeting's agenda.
Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo" 
 wrote:
>
> OK Northern Californian's, this is a challenge to us all. What if 
we 
> plan that for our next meeting in March we each present the name of 
1 
> book along with the author, the possible merits of the book to the 
> group and we vote on it as the book of the quarter. As the first 
book 
> it might be best if it's a book in english, a book we can all get 
> either through Amazon or any of the on-line booksellers and that 
the 
> book should

La Antorcha Encendida y La Sumaria Relacion

Victor,
 
I think your idea of sharing the genealogical information found in various
books is a great idea.  Then if someone wants to read more of the book for
him/herself, they can order the book or borrow it. 
 
I have a very old book, parts of which I will transcribe and send to the
group if there is any interest in it.  It was given to me in the 1960's in
Mexico City by my husband's aunt, a profesora.  She told me it would
provide me a very concise picture of the history of Mexico, since I told her I
knew nothing of my father's homeland.  I think she may have used the book
in her classes.  She taught English, so I don't know.  The book is
called "Historia de Mexico".  The frontispiece says "Apuntes de Historia de
Mexico (Edicion Privada) 1951, Impreso por Editores E Impresores, Beatriz de
Silva, S. A., Avenida Juarez 104, Mexico, D. F."  It has no authors
listed.  It has a bibliography and an Indice that is really just a table of
contents.  I was hoping for an

Ranchos Group Research Resolutions

my time is becoming more and more taxed. My resolution will be to hang
in here by a toe nail and continue researching my blood. hmmm, not much
of a resolution, but at least you'll all know that if I get quiet its
not because I don't love you all its because I don't have enough time
to express it.



joseph









Natalie wrote:

Feliz Año Nuevo!
So - what are your genealogical research resolutions or goals for 2006? 
A year ago I had hoped to be able to do much more than I accomplished 
(which, alas, was very little) - so I am once again going to establish 
some goals in hopes of focusing my efforts and making new discoveries.
I was just thinking of this today, so I haven't made any concrete goals 
yet, but I hope YOU will share YOUR goals, and I can get some good 
inspiration.
BTW - I like Alicia's idea of "Book of the Quarter" - a good way to 
increase one's knowledge; I look forward to seeing your recommendations.
Thank you all for sharing your knowledge, ideas, expertise, and

Fw: 'Que quiere decir . . . . . '

Hello all,
 
Often I print out some of the group's messages that I think my husband Tony
would be interested in, and I had given him the latest discourses on the
novelas, etc. When he thought of something he wanted to ask the group, he
tried to send the e-mail below from his computer.  However, it bounced,
since he is not a subscribed member of the group.  Could someone answer his
question?  Thanks.
 
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA . . .

 ----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 3:06 PM
Subject: 'Que quiere decir . . . . . '

Q-Vo!
 
Back in the l940's when I was a chabalito in El Paso and before the advent
of television my mother used to 'hear' her novelas from Juarez on the
radio.
 
Two in particular I remember: one was called 'El Barco De La Ilusion' and
the other 'Incertidumbre.'
 
These were half-hour melodramas and had to do with the vicissitudes of life
and their ramifications.
 
I was

Ranchos Group Research Resolutions

Feliz Año Nuevo!
So - what are your genealogical research resolutions or goals for 2006? 
A year ago I had hoped to be able to do much more than I accomplished 
(which, alas, was very little) - so I am once again going to establish 
some goals in hopes of focusing my efforts and making new discoveries.
I was just thinking of this today, so I haven't made any concrete goals 
yet, but I hope YOU will share YOUR goals, and I can get some good 
inspiration.
BTW - I like Alicia's idea of "Book of the Quarter" - a good way to 
increase one's knowledge; I look forward to seeing your recommendations.
Thank you all for sharing your knowledge, ideas, expertise, and 
adventures. It has been a great year!

Blessings to you all for 2006.

Natalie Castro Coleman in Virginia,
Primarily researching Castro, Garcia, and Dueñas from Hacienda 
Astillero, Valparaiso district, Zac., who eventually settled in the 
Guasti and Cucamonga, CA area.




Northern California book of the quarter

I loved Victor's suggestion, but wondered how we would pick a book that
would benefit the many of this group. I think I was more motivated in
working on the Colotlan census because I was from that area, but would
like to think I would have helped even if I wasn't from that area.



I'm in agreement with anything that will help us as a group or will
help certain of us within the group advance our knowledge.



joseph



ps: nothing says that we can't divide the group into quarters and
rotate clockwise as we pick a book concerning that area. Maybe we can
get all interested parties to chime in and we'll see what geographic
areas the participants are researching. in the mean time we can see
what group of books the N CA group comes up with and we can compare
lists. it seems to me that finding books in English that dig in and
cover our areas will be a challenge. We'll all have to be patient in
the choosing process.





Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo wrote:

OK Northern Californian's, this