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Digest Number 685

Hi Maria,

Thank you for your interest.

I have a letter written by my mother in 1941-42 on La Sultana
letterhead. She and my dad, Ramon Romero, spent several months with
my dad's relatives in and around Guadalajara after their marriage in
Oct., 1941 and returning to the USA before May, 1942. They mainly
stayed on one or another of Adolfo's ranches. I've been told the
family (de la Torre) owned this chocolateria (or chocolate factory as
my mother called it). My mother wrote to her aunt in Minnesota on
this letterhead.


I am searching any clues I can find to reconnect me with my father's
family. It seems easier to find the dead that any living relatives.
I am hoping to trace the ownership of the chocolateria to someone
living who may remember my dad and have family information for me.


My Spanish is slim to none so my research is slow. I would
appreciate any information your family may have on this place or my
family. My pedigree is posted to ranchos.

Priciliano Cerro Godina

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "John Gonzalez" 1gnzlz@v...> wrote:
> 
> I remember seen a definition of cerro as backbone, or espinazo. 
Cerros means a small mountain.  It goes: Loma, cerro, montaña y
sierra, degrees according to size.  Sierra means "saw" as the tool the
carpenters use.  The name  "sierra" was given to the mountain chain
because they resemble the teeth of a  saw. There is only one Sierra
Nevada, it was named for its snow covered peaks.  I just cringe when I
hear statements in the media such as:  "Great week-end to visit the
sierras"  TV people  (professionals?)  Should know that there is only
one "Sierra" .

Right, John.  Unless they're referring to México's sierras.  ;-)

http://www.galeon.com/cumbres/Archivos/orografia.htm





Priciliano Cerro Godina

Hi Emilie:
 
Thank you for the information about "del Cerro".  
I always thought my mother's last name was "Cerros"  But it didn't take
long to find out that my grandfather's last name was "Cerro".
 
I remember seen a definition of cerro as backbone,
or espinazo.  Cerros means a small mountain.  It goes: Loma,
cerro, montaña y sierra, degrees according to size.  Sierra means "saw" as
the tool the carpenters use.  The name  "sierra" was given to the
mountain chain because they resemble the teeth of a  saw. There is only one
Sierra Nevada, it was named for its snow covered peaks.  I just cringe when
I hear statements in the media such as:  "Great week-end to visit the
sierras"  TV people  (professionals?)  Should know that there is
only one "Sierra" .
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 10:17
PM
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Priciliano Cerro
Godina

Well, John and Helyn

Hacienda de Santiago, Aguascalientes

This is the kind of question that Leonardo de la Torre Berumen could answer. My ancestress, Clara de los Reyes, married Francisco de Chaves Banuelos in Jerez around 1720 or 25. I have no other info on her at all. I wonder if she's related to Maria Josefa? Marge:)



On Dec 5, 2005, at 4:04 AM, Emilie Garcia wrote:


Has anyone ever heard of this Hacienda de Santiago in Aguascalientes?   My husband's ggggg-grandmother, Maria Josefa de los Reyes Roman was born there in 1755.

 

Emilie Garcia

Port Orchard, WA ---



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Ancestors in Jalisco, Aguascalientes and sacatecas

I am reviewing the information I have gathered on my husband's ancestors in
Jalisco, Aguascalientes and Zacatecas.  I have traced mnost of his
ancestors to Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco.  I am wondering if anyone has
knowledge of the following places with the associated surnames:
 
In Jalisco:
 
 
        Canada de Agustin 
(Surnames Aguirre and Marin, Martines [Martin] and Duron)
 
        Ahualulco de Mercado
(Surnames Cervantes, Lopez)
 
        Amacueca   
(Surnames Fajardo, Cervantes)
 
        Teocaltiche and
Jalostotitalan  (Surnames Garcia, Calsada)
 
        Santa
Maria [Encarnacion de Diaz]   (Surnames Garcia, Ornelas, De Leon,
Morones, Gonzales)
 
        Lagos de Moreno  
(Surnames Garsia, Gonzs)
 
In Aguascalientes:
 
        Jesus Maria  
(Surnames Martines, Duron)
 
        Puerto del Magei
[Marquez?]   (surnames Duron Esparza, [de los] Reyes Roman)
 
        Pabellon [Hacienda de] and
San Jose de Garcia [Rincon de Romos]   (Surnames Duron, De Los Reyes,

Researcher for Zacatecas

Arturo what do you suppose a figure would be for this monthly stipend?
Are you thinking that several of us that might be interested could
contribute to come up with this monthly stipend? Did you get an idea of
what he was talking about?



I wonder how many hours of research $100 would buy me? Well that is all
I'd be willing to contribute. I have a dead end in Zacatecas, Zacatecas
I need "advice" in knowing how to get around.



let me know if you think this would buy me something and if so I'll
send you 5 scanned records that will give you the information he will
need to do my preliminary investigation.



joseph







Arturo Ramos wrote:

I have been corresponding with this man for the last week and I will 
be meeting with him during my upcoming trip to Mexico.  He has 
proposed doing research in the Zacatecas state archives for a monthly 
stipend.  I was wondering if there is anybody who is intereste and 
would be willing to "try him out".  His name is Leonardo de La Torre 
Berumen

Captain from Castile

Alicia says I write from the heart.  Well, I am emotional---high
strung, they say. 
 
This morning I awoke to the strains of "Conquest".  Some of you
younger ones know this tune as one played by the USC band at their games. 
Well, we elderly folk remember it from the movie "Captain from Castile", made
many decades ago and starring Cesar Romero as Cortez, and Tyrone Power as the
Captain from Castile. 
 
I followed the sound and found my husband in the den watching TV.  I
asked him if it was the USC band playing, and he said no, it was the
movie.  He always scans the TV schedule. and when he sees that that movie
will be screened, he makes sure to watch the last scenes.  They are very
stirring, since the score is played really loud.  Da-dum, da-da-da-dum-da
dum-da-dum-da da da da DUM! Da Dum!  The last scene shows the little
rag-tag coterie of Cortez once more on the march after they have conquered
the Aztecs.  The voice-over says "---many died, but many returned to Spain

Researcher for Zacatecas

Arturo,
 
Oh, how I wish I could go with you to see that researcher.  My father
was related to both the De La Torres and Berumens and collaterally to the
Haros.  Maybe he could help me find records on my father and his
mother.  My husband is related to the De Leons in Jalisco.  Soon I
will be updating and posting my husband's tree, and I will send a link to it on
World Connect.
 
Emilie Garcia
Port Orchard, WA --
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 11:06
PM
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Researcher for
Zacatecas

Arturo, el señor De La Torre me parece sincero
porque coincidentemente conoci hace tiempo a una familia De Leon residentes en
Los Angeles, originarios de Huejucar y criados en Colotlan, donde nacieron sus
sobrinos y sobrinas que se dedican al magisterio y tienen buen prestigio en la
ciudad, un hermano y el papa se dedican al oficio de hacer huaraches,
sombreros de

Researcher for Zacatecas

Arturo, el señor De La Torre me parece sincero porque coincidentemente conoci hace tiempo a una familia De Leon residentes en Los Angeles, originarios de Huejucar y criados en Colotlan, donde nacieron sus sobrinos y sobrinas que se dedican al magisterio y tienen buen prestigio en la ciudad, un hermano y el papa se dedican al oficio de hacer huaraches, sombreros de charros, cintos pitillados, etc creo son dueños de una papeleria y un ciber centro. espero te sirva esta informacion, aunque mas bien te estoy refiriendo a los De Leon como personas honestas, aunque hasta la fecha no he encontrado que seamos parientes, hasta luego. Leticia Leon

Arturo Ramos escribió:
I have been corresponding with this man for the last week and I will
be meeting with him during my upcoming trip to
Mexico.  He has
proposed doing research in the Zacatecas state archives for a monthly
stipend.  I was wondering if there is anybody who is intereste and
would be willing to "try him out".  His